Most of the 17.5 repos are broken

[Member Robin]

If you need to install the antiX 17.5 version for some reason, you’ll face some trouble. The default antiX download page won’t show you where to find the archived ISOs.

You’ll find archived ISOs for all antiX versions available for download at:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/antix-linux/files/Final/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/antix-linux/files/old/
along with their checksum files.

After installing 17.5 you’ll notice you can’t do an apt-update from the default repos (neither debian nor antiX repos) preset in the ISO.

1.) Most of the antiX repos from the listing at https://antixlinux.com/antix-packages/ return 404 – not found error.
E.g. the German servers Aachen, Bochum, Chemnitz, Erlangen, Göttingen, Hamburg, Karlsruhe, Landshut are gone. Only Cologne and Frankfurt still deliver the needed Packages.
A short arbitrary check for other countries gives back a similar result.

So you have to switch your package sources to one of the remaining servers to be able to use apt for package updating to the last available package status.

2.) The debian repository was moved. They don’t provide their oldoldstable in the default http://ftp.debian.org position, but you’ll find it at archive.debian.org instead.
In order to run apt you’ll have to edit the two files /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list and etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
– In the latter comment out the all active repositories completely.
– In the former comment out the following two lines and add the two new lines below in their place:

# deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free 
# deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free

deb http://archive.debian.org/debian stretch main contrib non-free 
deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main contrib non-free

Then you can execute the apt command as usual:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

Please be aware all the debian packages won’t get any security fixes any longer, since they call it deprecated.

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[Member Xunzi_23]

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Hi Robin,
i have not tried to use it but the ELTS project offers updated and security fixed packages.

Please checkout Freexian page and FAQ.

I tried to add the links, got yet another forbidden message seems to be spam Forbidden block message.
The only thing I really dislike about antiX is the crap forum software.

Freexian announce:
extended the life of Debian 8 Jessie, this time until June 30th 2025.
And that Debian 9 Stretch – that will start its “extended” life on July 1st 2022 – can be maintained up to June 30th 2027.

Organizations using Debian 10 should consider sponsoring the Debian LTS team since security support for that Debian release will soon transition from the regular security team to the LTS team.

Further Freexian states: We come from Debian and we intend to inherit Debian’s values. Thus anything that we develop will use free software tools and dependencies and be published under a DFSG-compliant license.

Freexian Mission: By 2030 we would like to:

Have at least 10 Freexian collaborators spending 30% of their time helping Debian.
Have enough customers so that we can distribute €20,000 per month of grants for projects improving Debian.
Be known as the reference company for Debian support.

For most of us supporting Freexian as an individual will unfortunately not be possible, unless able to help with package support.
Minimum yearly is 255 Euro. Due incurred costs overhead !.

This project (Freexian) has the support of Debian: it has been mentionned in the Debian press release announcing the first LTS release (which has been vetted by the Debian project leader itself) and in multiple other announces since then. It is also a Debian project since its inception happened on the debian-lts mailing list.

[Member Robin]

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Many thanks, Xunzi23. These infos you’ve added will be valuable for people actually in need of the antiX 17.x versions for hardware reasons.

Me had installed and used antiX 17.5 in 32 and 64 bit only now within a virtualbox container to be able to compile the laufweite binaries in a way making them work on all recent antiX versions the same, which was not possible when compiling them on antiX 23 due to a libc6 version mismatch.

If I recollect correctly, BobC, ModdIt or Brian had mentioned and linked Freexian somewhere here in the forum before. Seems to be a really great approach for keeping older hardware alive.

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[Moderator christophe]

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Robin wrote:

Many thanks, Xunzi23. These infos you’ve added will be valuable for people actually in need of the antiX 17.x versions for hardware reasons.

Thanks to both of you for this.
I tried it out on a fresh install, using the freexian repos for the debian security updates (on the subset that they decide to provide).
It was very easy, actually.

The instructions are here:

https://www.freexian.com/lts/extended/docs/how-to-use-extended-lts/
https://www.freexian.com/lts/extended/docs/kernel-backport/

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[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

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Please note that once the antiX bookworm is running and mirrored, we will no longer provide an antiX-17 (stretch) repo.

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[Moderator Brian Masinick]

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anticapitalista wrote:

Please note that once the antiX bookworm is running and mirrored, we will no longer provide an antiX-17 (stretch) repo.

I understand that some people want and/or need older software in order for their equipment to work; I’m sympathetic because I enjoy using both old and new hardware and compare them. However, we’ve had quite a few years and multiple releases between the old version and the current version.

AntiX has done a great job for a long time preserving older releases, older software, and building tools specifically designed to work with end of life equipment, but a limited team, further limited by what’s available elsewhere, because the team cannot possibly build everything, so at some point we have to move on.

Understand that the newer systems will still support many years of hardware, but a few will be lost, and many more will be gained. While even our software is considerably larger than it once was, it’s still quite a bit smaller, and definitely restrained compared to almost all other well supported systems.

For those who run 17.5 or older versions, understand that it’s either going to be out of date or you’re going to have to find your own ways to somehow keep it going. I did look into this once upon a time and there are one or two projects here and there that offer other old stuff, but eventually it’s going to be either under supported or unsupported.

I sincerely thank every single contributor to the efforts that we’ve had; for not quite two decades various people have participated in development, testing, documentation, art work, tool enhancements, promotion, answering questions and problem solving. Without anticapitalista, none of this would happen, but even he didn’t do all of it; the list of helpers is fairly large if you include each release since the original announcement to provide a light weight alternative to Simply MEPIS.

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[Member Robin]

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anticapitalista wrote:

Please note that once the antiX bookworm is running and mirrored, we will no longer provide an antiX-17 (stretch) repo.

@anticapitalista : Couldn’t this complete repo be moved to something like archive.antix/… just like the debian archives are preserved, keeping its original directory structure, instead of simply deleting it? There is still hardware out working perfectly fine antiX 17.5 is the first choice to run on. So I plead for keeping it archived for special purposes usage, not being maintained any longer in any way, but still usable when really needed.

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[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

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Robin wrote:

anticapitalista wrote:

Please note that once the antiX bookworm is running and mirrored, we will no longer provide an antiX-17 (stretch) repo.

@anticapitalista : Couldn’t this complete repo be moved to something like archive.antix/… just like the debian archives are preserved, keeping its original directory structure, instead of simply deleting it? There is still hardware out working perfectly fine antiX 17.5 is the first choice to run on. So I plead for keeping it archived for special purposes usage, not being maintained any longer in any way, but still usable when really needed.

We simply don’t have the space on our server for antiX stretch, buster, bullseye, bookworm, testing and sid repos. Sorry.

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[Moderator Brian Masinick]

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anticapitalista wrote:

Robin wrote:

anticapitalista wrote:

Please note that once the antiX bookworm is running and mirrored, we will no longer provide an antiX-17 (stretch) repo.

@anticapitalista : Couldn’t this complete repo be moved to something like archive.antix/… just like the debian archives are preserved, keeping its original directory structure, instead of simply deleting it? There is still hardware out working perfectly fine antiX 17.5 is the first choice to run on. So I plead for keeping it archived for special purposes usage, not being maintained any longer in any way, but still usable when really needed.

We simply don’t have the space on our server for antiX stretch, buster, bullseye, bookworm, testing and sid repos. Sorry.

A volunteer to provide the archive server for old releases could potentially be a solution, if such a scenario could happen.

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[Member Xunzi_23]

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Hi Robin,
this comes a bit inconvenient, imminent travel to asia, not enough room on my netbook drive to archive antiX 17.5 repos.
if it fits could you maybe save to Pcloud or Gdrive, maybe finaly a use for google which does not collide with my concience :-).

In a little more than a months time I could archive antiX repo to an HDD while we figure out how to help out any users in need.

If it is still available that is.

[Moderator christophe]

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How does one clone the antiX apt repo?
It seems to me that an archive of the repo uploaded to archive.org, with a link in the forum coupled with a tutorial on setting it up to work on one’s local system, would be a good way to keep it available, if anyone feels they need it.

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[Member marcelocripe]

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Hello everybody.

Thanks Robin for yet another tutorial.

It seems to me that an archive of the repo uploaded to archive.org, with a link in the forum coupled with a tutorial on setting it up to work on one’s local system, would be a good way to keep it available, if anyone feels they need it.

Christophe, as I read each of their thoughts, I also thought of archive.org.

We need to know how big the antiX 17 repository is.

We need to know if the program my-offline-repo-0118.zip which was created by Xecure and can be used in antiX 17 for local installation of packages after downloading them from the internet.

Depending on the size of the antiX 17 repository, my archive.org account can be used to store the entire structure of folders and .deb packages or packages containing source code. Or we can create another archive.org account dedicated just for that.

The same can be done with the other repositories of editions prior to antiX 17.

And lastly, how do I download the entire antiX 17 repository?

With a bit of organization on our part, we will be able to create ways to keep this structure available to those who need it, without making it difficult for the official antiX team to manage the packages.

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Olá a todos.

Obrigado Robin por mais este tutorial.

It seems to me that an archive of the repo uploaded to archive.org, with a link in the forum coupled with a tutorial on setting it up to work on one’s local system, would be a good way to keep it available, if anyone feels they need it.

Christophe, enquanto eu lia cada uma das considerações de cada um, eu também pensei no archive.org.

Nós precisamos saber qual é o tamanho o repositório do antiX 17.

Nós precisamos saber se o programa my-offline-repo-0118.zip que foi criado pelo Xecure se poderá ser utilizado no antiX 17 para a instalação local dos pacotes após baixá-los da internet.

Dependendo do tamanho do repositório do antiX 17, a minha conta do archive.org poderá ser utilizada para armazenar toda a estrutura de pastas e de pacotes .deb ou dos pacotes que contenham o código fonte. Ou podemos criar uma outra conta no archive.org dedicada só para isso.

O mesmo podemos fazer com os outros repositórios das edições anteriores ao antiX 17.

E por último, como eu baixo todo o repositório do antiX 17?

Com um pouco de organização nossa, nós poderemos criar meios de manter esta estrutura disponível para quem precisa, sem dificultar a gestão dos pacotes pela equipe de desenvolvedores oficial do antiX.

[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

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antiX stretch based versions (antiX-17 series) only have one working antiX repo.
deb http://la.mxrepo.com/antix/stretch/ stretch main nosystemd nonfree
Most if not all other mirrors will give errors

Maybe MX team will keep that repo open for us.

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[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

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Good news. This is from the owner of la.mxrepo.com

I think we’ll be able to keep those archived stretch repos up on la.mxrepo.com at least through the Buster LTS EOL next year. Of course, it will eventually run out of space but it’s OK for now.

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[Member Robin]

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christophe wrote:

It seems to me that an archive of the repo uploaded to archive.org, with a link in the forum coupled with a tutorial on setting it up to work on one’s local system, would be a good way to keep it available, if anyone feels they need it.

Since it is no way to upload all the individual files from the repo one by one to the site manually via their web interface, I have asked people of archive.org this morning already whether they could save the complete original antiX stretch repo, and they were glad to do this. Their archive bot is already working on the copy, will be available in their wayback machine soon. From the local copy I have done yesterday I know such a copy takes ~7 hours and it takes ~ 25 GiB disk space.

christophe wrote:

How does one clone the antiX apt repo?

You can use wget on command line for this task: e.g.:
wget -r -nH -e robots=off -U="Mozilla" http://repo.antixlinux.com/stretch
Don’t worry if wget keeps chewing with zero download rate once your Internet connection was cut and reassigned with another IP by the provider. DONT STOP WGET! Just wait 15 (!) minutes, it will resume on its own and complete the file it is working on, proceding with the remaining ones perfectly fine. 15 minutes are the default wget timeout, so you just have to wait for it.

Xunzi_23 wrote:

if it fits could you maybe save to Pcloud or Gdrive, maybe finaly a use for google which does not collide with my concience :-).

Unfortunately i have an asymmetric DSL internet connection, which means I was able to download the thing with a useful speed, but I can’t upload 25 GiB within a reasonable time, due to my low available upload quoata and speed of a few KBit/second only. Sorry.

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