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mar00
wants to get help . I do not know what you need to do in the system knoppix 9. The system is running on a usb pendrive 32GB. Works on desktop = lxde but extremely slow. The trial is on ideapadgaming 3, and on asus. Tes same results .
Anonymous
suggestion: split the “mar00” post into a separate OtherDistros topic + include KNOPPIX in topic title
Unfortunately, “Knoppix 9” provides an non-defintive description of which OS version is in use on mar00’s system.
http://knoppix.net/forum/forums/9-News
Details and suggestions specific to “version 9.0.0” might not be applicable to (the latest version) “version 9.1”FWIW, I have not visited Knoppix since back around v8.0 but would be interested in reading any observations offered by current Knoppix users.
BobC
Is is a fast USB 3.0 pendrive? Is it plugged into the USB 2.0 or USB 3.0? I’ve used Knoppix, but there wasn’t much support back when I did. Skidoo posted you the link to their support site.
Mine was version 7.xx and 8.x if I recall. It was designed with many apps to not need upgrades. When I did try upgrading it, the upgrades were iffy. It could be installed to the hard drive, but wasn’t really designed for that.
Brian Masinick
@BobC: You are right about the use of KNOPPIX. Though I’ve not done much with it recently, I’ve saved and occasionally used many versions over the years. There is an “unofficial”, cobbled together attempt to install KNOPPIX. It did work on some systems, because I have tried it before, but I doubt that it has been maintained, so the likelihood of it working universally are quite slim. Also, as far as upgrades, when it’s time to “upgrade”, it’s probably time to use a newer instance of KNOPPIX; otherwise it is at least possible to use whatever version you happen to have, assuming it supports your hardware.
I don’t remember if I even grabbed a 9.* version; the last one I remember downloading was 8.0.
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Brian MasinickPPC
Out of topic- Knoppix always takes me back to my younger self- it was the very first linux distro I used, if I recall correctly- I had dial-up then, so I used to buy computer magazins that came with cdrom/dvd roms full of Demos of games I could play, and freeware apps I could use… Once one came with Knoppix- some 20 years ago- I read the magazine and learned how to boot from it- it took about 5 minutes to be up and running… But once open, boy! It looked better than windows XP, and had lots of games- I played Chromium BSU way longer than I should have (yes, kids- there a chromium package way older than the browser package- it’s a silly but addictive space ship game)… I even used it to rescue the paper that a friend was writing to finish his “degree”- he panicked when his windows machine died on him, and he had no backups (not so smart for a doctor, I know)- So, with knoppix in one hand and a usb thumb (to back the files up) in another [nevermind, I took everything in my oversized pocket].
I booted his computer, opened the file to check if it was the one he wanted and then copied it to the thumbdrive). I spent a while then rescuing his Windows and copying him the knoppix dvd- he wanted it real bad- he thought that “rescue system” was the best thing ever: he could now use his computer even if his system was trashed!- even play Solitary and access the web!
I even bought a second hand external modem so I could use Linux to access the web.
From there it took years of dual booting Windows XP and several linux distros, until I went linux only. I spent some happy years with wabbly windows in Mint, until I realize my computers were to old and I could not update them- guess what system I found out then?P.
Yes, it is 4 or 5 GB, but included many games.
Back in version 4 or 5 IceWM was an option. I think it’s all LXDE and Openbox last time I tried it.
It also has a voice mode for blind people called Arianne I think.
ModdIt
Lot of info in english on http://knoppix.net/ That is not the official site but pretty informative.
Boot option ADRIANE brings up talking desktop assistance.
Talking menu system, which is supposed to make work and internet access easier for computer beginners,
even if they have no sight contact to the computers monitor.A graphical environment with talking programs and arbitrary magnification using compiz, is another option.
Navigation in text desktop.
CapsLock + space read current line
CapsLock + arrow up read previous line
CapsLock + arrow down read next line
CapsLock + pageup read from beginning of page to current position
CapsLock + pagedown read from here to end of page
CapsLock + arrow left/right spell charwiseKnoppix was a go to for many users some years ago. Useful travel or rescue system today.
Good idea is the integrated option to create a mini boot CD for systems which will not start from CD or DVD.Knoppix can also be remastered to preserve changes, need to be patient and maybe boil coffee on the CPU cooler,
it is a pretty intensive task. Fun system which has Kitchen Sink, Bathroom and workshop included.- This reply was modified 1 year, 8 months ago by ModdIt.
PDP-8
Big props to Klaus for what is still essentially a one-man show! 9.1 public is the latest, although I look forward to 9.2 public. Basically thanks to a dev that could easily just close his door long ago.
Hard to believe, but there can be lurkers / newcomers that don’t know the basics if they haven’t kept up over the years …
1) It is primarily meant to be a live-usb / cd /dvd boot. You *can* install to a hard drive, but that is not it’s main purpose, nor is it designed as such.
2) It is not meant to be updated. You grab the latest release (approximately once a year) if you want the latest. SMALL updates and additions ok, but wholesale upgrading with the usual debian apt update / upgrade tools will break it. Knoppix, in order to support both old and new, is a mix of stable, testing, and experimental sources. So don’t treat it like a rolling distro! 🙂
3) If you burn the Knoppix iso, at first boot it will automatically resize the partition to fill your usb stick for persistence of user files.
4) BUT – for best results, you don’t want to stop there! Ideally, after kicking the tires, you should use the live-usb-installer to create another specially formatted usb stick – it performs better and is more robust!
5) When using the live usb maker in Knoppix, you now have a variety of options to choose from (encryption, size and so forth), and uses the ReiserFS file system instead of the existing typical fat32.
6) Not *everything* boots properly. In that case, one should peruse the “cheatcodes” file and apply kernel options if necessary. One of my machines demands that I use a “knoppix64 acpi=noirq” for instance to be stable. Since the Knoppix stick is really nomadic, getting comfortable with the cheatcode options improves your sysadmins skills. 🙂
While once it used systemd for many releases, it hasn’t done so for the past few, and is back to a variety of custom hand-written scripts.
The Reiserfs filesystem is very hardy and self-healing. That means that when an unskilled user just yanks out the drive before the system is shut down cleanly, it can recover gracefully, many times without having to use fsck or other filesystem repair utils.
NOte: The Reiserfs and it’s controversy has already been covered for decades, so no need to repeat it here! Please. Such an old topic that it is troll-food. Nuff said.
Still useful, and I thank Klaus for still keeping it going after all this time.
- This reply was modified 1 year, 1 month ago by PDP-8.
Actually, let’s finally put the ReiserFS thing to bed:
It is ONLY used because that was a viably good solution for a live-usb stick when the project first started.
Since development has long since stopped, all the “bugs” are known. No new ones to be introduced.
It’s sole purpose is to be reasonably self-healing / robust when the only application for it is to work with it’s own overlay files. It has proven to be so when sticks are yanked.
BUT it is NOT to be interpreted as this being the “best” filesystem for other purposes! Heh, yeah, you would probably be ill-advised to use the old Reiserfs for enterprise systems.
Basically, here it just works for it’s intended purpose which is limited in scope, and perhaps some backwards compatability. No future bugs. 🙂
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