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carlson.v
Hello and good day,
I recently setup antix 19 on live USB with persistence_all. I followed instructions based on dolphin_oracle. after the persistence_all was setup it booted ok. i did apt-get update and tried opening browser and everything is really laggy and slow. after i restarted and back to desktop everything is really slow and laggy. i was anticipating it to be a little faster. I setup two live usb (one USB 2.0 and one 3.0 both same setup). the 3.0 is a little faster but the boot times are slow (60 secs or so) and the overall basic usage (loading browsers, opening control center take almost 30-45 sec to open) and then moving the cursor to click on things is significantly delayed. firefox a bit too much to handle? would chromium work better? perhaps i just need to experiment with a couple different browsers to see.
the computer im using is: lenovo thinkpad T420 (intel corei5) with 16gb of RAM and 256gb SSD. i have another laptop that i am planning on using the live USB and its a HP2000 with 8gb RAM and 250gb optical drive. indeed these are older laptops but not that old and from what i have seen this OS runs on significantly older hardware and seems to do great. i also do realize that the USB on both laptops are 2.0 so even if a USB 3.0 stick is used it will only be as fast as the computer USB will handle.
i also wanted to know if there was a way to set up both laptops so that when i put USB stick in and then power it up the boot would go straight to the antix19 menu screen? both machines are legacy boot.i am wanting to know some tips and tricks to help speed things up, or perhaps i have set something up wrong? i do apologize for lack of information if i need to post something that would be more helpful please advise as i am a noob and also do not post a lot on forums so please forgive my obliviousness.
kind regards
Mark
Brian Masinick
I can’t quite determine the cause of the slowdown based on what you have done. Perhaps someone else will notice something I am missing.
I can tell you that I have a laptop that is similar vintage to yours with half as much RAM. It’s no longer a fast system but it’s not as slow as what you have described.
It could be that something, such as a conflicting network parameter or program is creating resource contention. That’s a common reason for performance to slow down. Maybe someone else will notice the actual reason.
I hope you are able to resolve this.
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Brian Masinickok, I have to back pedal on earlier comment about things being slow. i reformatted and re-wrote the USB3 stick using rufus and redid the live usb with persistence_all and its much faster now!
i am not sure what happened as i did the exact same thing but now the boot time is 23sec on the lenovo and the hp2000. no more laggy cursor and applications open snappy snappy….loli have couple things to ask:
1) the first time when setting up persistence i set timezone to UTC and the persistence_all and then i used F8 and clicked save (everything else was default which im fine with). now that this has been done once when i boot back into antix screen i see all the settings are the same but the F8 one on the second boot is not on save? do i need to hit f8 and then click save everytime or is the first time good enough?
2)when i get to the desktop the timezone is incorrect. i open control center and select the “set current date and time” and then choose the correct timezone (im CST so the options were America/Regina i hit that one and the time and date are now displayed correct). after logging out (i have the persistence set up to automatically save and it did indeed save as teh window pops up and says so) and then getting back to desktop the time is not correct and didnt save. is there something i can do to make the timezone stick to my settings?
3) wondering if its possible that when i insert the antix live usb and then i power on the laptop (my lenovo and hp) it will go to the boot screen and i can select the USB? or is this just simply easier to continue pressing F9? only reason i ask is sometimes i am not paying attention, hit the power button and forget to hit F9…have to wait for boot and then hit restart and then get the trigger finger ready again….its just annoying but im sure i can live with it if there is not really a easy way to setup up the boot option as i have explained.kind regards
MarkBrian Masinick
On my system I have to press and hold a particular key (F12 in my case in order to be able to choose the device I am using to boot the system.
Most computers allow you to to select the order of devices to boot from so it’s also possible to modify it to suit your needs.
Hope that helps and I am glad that you are making good progress.
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Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
If you are using a USB and the contents of the USB have not been modified, then each time you use it the same settings will be in place. Therefore it matters whether the device is writable and whether you have successfully saved the contents. There’s a chance that you selected save but the contents were not actually saved because it might be a read-only device.
As far as using UTC local time, that is a matter of preference. I tend to prefer local time, but some of my systems don’t set it, so I have to go through the trouble of changing clock time when switching between systems using UTC and local time.
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Brian MasinickAnonymous
As a troubleshooting step, try booting a non-persistence liveboot session (by choosing F5:no_persist from the bootmenu). If the browser seems non-laggy in this scenario, that would suggest “disk writes” to the USB media are bottlenecked on your machine. If so, in addition to trying different USB pendrives (as you mentioned) I would retest using a different physical port (but idunno how many USB3 ports are present on your ThinkpadT420).
“even if a USB 3.0 stick is used it will only be as fast as the computer USB will handle”
^–> By choosing one of the dynamic modes (e.g “perist_root”), you can avoid that limitation. Throughout a dynamic session, “disk writes” will be immediately performed against RAM-resident copies of files ~~ the actual storage media is not written to until a persist-save operation is performed. If the selected save mode is “automatic”, persist-save is performed during shutdown. If your selected save mode is “semi-automatic”, you can also manually invoke persist-save, on-demand, during the session. FWIW, when running on a machine which has 4GB RAM, persist_root + semi-automatic is what I choose (and generally recommend).
“i also wanted to know if there was a way to set up both laptops so that when i put USB stick in and then power it up the boot would go straight to the antix19 menu screen?”
Does it not already do so, by default? During legacy liveboot, there’s a 60sec countdown (6 animated circle pie icons)… and if no key is pressed, after the timeout boot proceeds and (per the as-shipped default settings) autologin to desktop session occurs. There’s probably a “boot cheat code” you can add to the bootline (and F8:Save) to specify a short (1sec) timeout delay, but I can’t recall its name. Guessing, grabbing at straws, I would probably try timeout=1 or delay=1
“some tips and tricks to help speed things up”
Yep, the tips-n-tricks section of the forum has some good pointers. It would be impossible to cover all of ’em (again) here.
ModdIt
Hi I sometimes run AntiX live on I5 T420, at least on mine it is possible to set usb as first boot device.
I am getting best performance with some of the more expensive intenso sticks,
some others even though labeled usb 3 are very slow especially on longer writes.Faster was an SSD installation external, that is my portable drive, at present a Patriot drive, cheap and up to
now no issues. Does not slow down on long writes which is a problem even on some very modern drives.Much faster is an internal M SATA drive, a crucial M4 fits, older reliable and really speeds up the old workhorse.
Still available for reasonable price on the bay. The slot is next to Ram. Only problem is if you really need a
3/4G module as there is only one slot. No idea about newer M Sata drives.T420 is my favorite laptop, at least when fitted with a decent hi res screen as mine is.
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