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jlauro
Hello,
New to antiX. Mostly use Centos, but considering alternatives. Not really needing the older hardware support, and mainly use Linux on servers without any gui running…
No systemd is a major plus for antiX…One problem I am having is upgrading from 19.1 to 19.2 (installed yesterday from an iso I download earlier this year). It sounds like it should be possible based on the release article, but the apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade although updating several things has not upgrade to 19.2. I would think a .x upgrade would be relatively easy? Any FAQ or page that lists how to upgrade from 19.1 to 19.2?
sybok
Hi, what makes you believe your system/packages is/are not up-to-date?
Do the ‘apt-get’ commands fail or repeatedly show packages that were held-back or to be installed?I recall that someone mentioned on the forum that e.g. the information providing antiX version number shown in boot-menu is not changed, i.e. I would not expect ‘19.2’ starting to show up instead of ‘19.1’.
- This reply was modified 2 years, 12 months ago by sybok. Reason: Clarified "the information"
ModdIt
Hi jlauro, welcome to AntiXia
sybok is right, as long as apt does not show errors your system is up to date.
The version stays, I think the intention is to aid in any troubleshooting.To be sure you do get all packets.
In apt-get use dist-upgrade
or apt full-upgrade as the more modern command.As a couple of examples the kernel was not updated to proper version (4.9.200 (might be off, going from memory, but remember it being below expected for 19.2), and distrowatch says it should be 4.9.212 for 19.2. Also, 19.2 is supposed to have the runnit system, which it did not after the upgrade. The said, hundreds of updates but nothing to indicate it wasn’t 19.1.
- This reply was modified 2 years, 12 months ago by jlauro.
- This reply was modified 2 years, 12 months ago by jlauro.
Xecure
1. Updating kernel is optional. Why? becuase automatic kernel updates sometimes breaks the system (and sometimes, like my case, I have a custom antiX kernel. I don’t want automatic update to a kernel that I know will not work). If you want a newer kernel, update manually (from synaptic, package installer, cli-aptiX, etc.).
2. runnit is not official antiX system (not for 19.2 nor for the future). It is optional. anticapitalista has built isos’s with runnit and likes it but will not make it the default (at least for now). So you cannot expect it to come with an update. If you want it, you could manually install it (some topics in the forum) or download and test a runnit iso.
3. antiX systems normally will update everything as you remain in a number version (if you installed antiX 19, and keep updating, you should have the same as antiX 19.2, minus some menu and configuration files in your home directory, but the “version number” will remain in your system, as intended by the developer).antiX Live system enthusiast.
General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.
rokytnji
19.2 laptop that started at version 19
harry@biker:~ $ inxi -S System: Host: biker Kernel: 4.9.193-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM 1.6.5 Distro: antiX-19_x64-full Marielle Franco 16 October 2019 harry@biker:~ $ sudo apt-get -f install [sudo] password for harry: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.I’m running 19.2. But I installed 19. The -f install option shows my system is current. During dist-upgrades. It is even mentioned about yes or no for runit.
off topic : I am grinning at my microsoft repo < teams install > . My. How times have changed.Sometimes I drive a crooked road to get my mind straight.
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How to Search for AntiX solutions to your problemsAs a new user to antiX…. just saying it would be nice if it was clearer the need to manually update the kernel (as that can be required for some security patches), and also evidence that it has been updated to a certain level. I do understand the need to have some evidence of the original install version, but should also be some evidence of what it’s been updated to.
Hi,
“but should also be some evidence of what it’s been updated to”, that is at your fingertips…
This is not a rolling release, why, “Stability” as well as crap systemD free. That is why many of us are staying
here.
There is no advantage in updating the Kernel if your system is running well, I at least have experienced more trouble than improvement with a user experience around 70 Installations.
Some users insisted in installing latest Kernel versions on older systems and called me for help, after kernel rollback problem solved.
I am not a total supporter of the adage never touch a running system but unless there is a clear reason I think leaving kernel alone is wise.
As to security patches, There are announcements that new kernels are available and why. If you want a rolling AntiX you can make it that way and call it fun when things break.If you are in a situation where you wish for maximum security the kernel is only a tiny part of the steps to perform and they are not likely to be successful against a determined attack if system is run by uninformed home hobby admins.
sudo apt full-upgrade
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgradedThat is telling you your system has installed latest available packages.
Like all else in Linux that can be changed/or messed up if you are not careful by altering apt sources or switching available but inactive repos on and off in synaptic.
Want icing on the cake, You can also install/activate several ways to show if updates are available if you have not already done so. Long thread here in forum.
On what distrowatch says, most sensible reviews never get published and much useless information does.
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