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woodlark
I tried today to install antix 17.4 as a frugal install alongside Windows 7. Windows is in /dev/sda2 and antix in /dev/sda3 (sda1 is reserved for Dell). The drive is 500 gb. I selected F5 then chose Frugal_Persist from the menu. The frugal install completed with no apparent errors, but it never installed a bootloader. I can boot from usb with no problem, without the usb, it simply boots into Windows. Is there a way to manually install grub or is there an issue with the installer?
seaken64
If I’m not mistaken, the frugal installer does not install a boot loader but does create a grub entry for you to copy to a grub config. But if you are only using Windows, and do not have a linux hard drive install controlling a grub bootloader it won’t do you much good. You will have to use the USB drive to boot the frugal install.
Seaken64
BobC
Hmmmm, I have machines booting Frugal, installed antiX and Windows 7 or 10. To do that you need one of them installed normally with the grub boot controlled by it. Then you tweak in your frugal boot text into 40_custom, update-grub, and the next boot all should be there. I would suggest to put the one that controls the boot in its own partition,
Anonymous
Thank you all for your replies. This is disappointing. One of the reasons I decided to install Antix was the frugal install option. I have used Puppy Linux in the past, and came to love the idea of a frugal install. Puppy always included Grub4Dos when installing. Unfortunately, the current crop of puppies doesn’t serve my current needs.
I’m going to have to consider what I really want to achieve. Windows is not really needed, but it happened to already be locate on that computer. I suppose I could replace it with another linux (just to get a bootloader installed). Otherwise, does anyone know a way to manually install grub2 from inside antix?
anticapitalista
You could try the bootrepair app under Maintenance in the control centre.
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christophe
If you like to run antiX frugal-only & have a puppy linux disk/usb, you can:
1. do the frugal antiX install
2. boot up puppy & run the grub4dos installer. It will detect antiX (and maybe “bark” about finding no puppy files, but it should continue anyway).
3. Once done, manually edit the menu.lst, since puppy will only write the basic skeleton needed to boot – no boot options for antiX (except “ro” — “read only,” which you should erase). (I’ve added a menu.lst antiX entry below that I use on an “antiX-frugal-usb,” – use as reference, if needed).
4. It SUPPOSEDLY will allow you to boot Windows also, if installed, BUT I DON’T HAVE WINDOWS so I have not tested if this part works. (If your Windows becomes unbootable, don’t get mad at me!!)
5. One note on my antiX entry: “root=(0,1)” means the boot drive where grub4dos resides (0), and that drive’s 2nd partition (1). (The grub4dos boot drive is always 0, whether booting from usb or hdd.) And my antiX directory was renamed to just “antix” to keep it simple. The rest is probably self-explanatory /regular antiX boot parameters:# antix 17.3.1
title antiX Linux 17 Frugal-Persistence
uuid 14d9effb-fc66-45ac-b738-7f00b0c69416
search –no-floppy –set=root –fs-uuid 14d9effb-fc66-45ac-b738-7f00b0c69416
kernel /antix/vmlinuz root=(hd0,1) bdir=antix buuid=14d9effb-fc66-45ac-b738-7f00b0c69416 vga=788 persist_static tz=America/Chicago quiet splash=v
initrd /antix/initrd.gz[note, the line starting with “tz=…” is actually the continuation of the previous line (“kernel …”)]
Hope this helps.
- This reply was modified 4 years, 1 month ago by christophe.
- This reply was modified 4 years, 1 month ago by christophe.
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Thank you all for your replies. This is disappointing. One of the reasons I decided to install Antix was the frugal install option. I have used Puppy Linux in the past, and came to love the idea of a frugal install. Puppy always included Grub4Dos when installing. Unfortunately, the current crop of puppies doesn’t serve my current needs.
I’m going to have to consider what I really want to achieve. Windows is not really needed, but it happened to already be locate on that computer. I suppose I could replace it with another linux (just to get a bootloader installed). Otherwise, does anyone know a way to manually install grub2 from inside antix?
Is there enough room on the hard rive to partition for an antiX install and keep Windows where it is? I do this a lot on old XP or Vista systems. I’ll run Gparted from the live antiX and shrink the Windows and leave anywhere from 5 to 20 gig for antiX depending on the size of the drive. I then start Windows and let it check the disk and re-set it’s disk table information. Sometimes it will be necessary to repair the Windows but usually it is not needed. Once antiX is installed it will write the grub to launch Windows. I know you wanted a frugal install but this is the way I do it to get both Windows and antiX to boot from grub.
You may be able to use the Windows boot loader but it is harder to accomplish for me. Or just use a boot CD.
Seaken64
If you don’t care to keep windows it’s easy. I usually just install MX to the whole drive. Then you can do your frugal install and add the grub entries for antiX frugal as already explained above.
Seaken64
It may be a moot point. I think the computer is dying. All text on the screen has turned green, and the keyboard is not responding. It was an old one that was just sitting around.
For now, I am running antix as a virtual machine in vmware on puppy linux on a different computer. I do thank you all for your suggestions, and will probably try again when/if I find another computer to use. This is one of the most responsive forums I have seen.
All text on the screen has turned green, and the keyboard is not responding.
{fingerscrossed}
maybe that’s just a signal all the magic smoke is used up and needs a refill
It may be a moot point. I think the computer is dying. All text on the screen has turned green, and the keyboard is not responding. It was an old one that was just sitting around.
For now, I am running antix as a virtual machine in vmware on puppy linux on a different computer. I do thank you all for your suggestions, and will probably try again when/if I find another computer to use. This is one of the most responsive forums I have seen.
Is this a laptop or a desktop? The text that you say is green – where/when is that coming up? At post? booting from Windows? After windows has loaded? Is there a separate PS/2 port? A separate VGA port?
The computer may not be dead. I do a lot of this – resurrecting old computers.
Seaken64
It may be a moot point. I think the computer is dying. All text on the screen has turned green, and the keyboard is not responding. It was an old one that was just sitting around.
For now, I am running antix as a virtual machine in vmware on puppy linux on a different computer. I do thank you all for your suggestions, and will probably try again when/if I find another computer to use. This is one of the most responsive forums I have seen.
Is this a laptop or a desktop? The text that you say is green – where/when is that coming up? At post? booting from Windows? After windows has loaded? Is there a separate PS/2 port? A separate VGA port?
The computer may not be dead. I do a lot of this – resurrecting old computers.
Seaken64
I was premature. The green text was a result of the vga connector somehow working loose. That was an easy fix. I’m not sure about the keyboard. It was plugged into one of the rear usb ports; I moved it to a front port, and it seems to be working. I’m thinking (hoping) just dirty connector; after all the computer is an old one that has been sitting for a while. BTW, it is a desktop (Dell Optiplex SFF).
I’m going to try Christophe’s suggestion this morning.
christophe,
You are my hero! It worked beautifully (and Windows still works). Here is the menu.lst entry that I ended up with:
title antix Linux 17 Frugal-Persistence
uuid 26319832-a28b-4737-b0e6-0207f3af6bc9
kernel /antiX-Frugal-4.9.160-antix.1-amd64-smp/vmlinuz root=(hd0,2) buuid=26319832-a28b-4737-b0e6-0207f3af6bc9 bootdir=/antiX-Frugal-4.9.160-antix.1-amd64-smp persist_static
initrd /antiX-Frugal-4.9.160-antix.1-amd64-smp/initrd.gzThanks, everyone for your help. I will probably be back with more question as I learn Antix.
Glad you got it sorted. So your solution was to use Grub4DOS? Where is the menu.lst file kept? Is that kept on the first drive, the Windows drive? Then is has to be FAT32?
Seaken64
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