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  • #110359
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    PPC

      I have already tried it and there is sound.

      OK. That is good – there is not problem with your hardware. Probably there are more tech savvy persons to help you with audio related problem… Until now, my default advice for every sound problem, up to antiX-23 beta2 was “try installing pulse audio and enable it”. antiX-23 will come out, if not with pipewire pre-installed, at least with it easily installed from Package Manager (and to enable it, you just have to comment out it’s line in the desktop-session startup config file).
      So, if you want to update to antiX-23 on that laptop, it will probably solve all your audio problems.

      For a more immediate fix – you can boot and use the live system and try copying down every single audio setting and use it on your installed system. You probably can copy the live system’s /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf (and any other relevant files) over to you installed system (back up the original files first, to be on the safe side).
      Have you tried selecting the sound card, in Control Centre?

      P.

      #110506
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      andfree

        I installed Pulseaudio via Package Installer & commented out its line in the desktop-session startup config file. Now, in alsamixer, I see only Master. I can also see Capture, or both of them (see the attachment).
        I also installed pipewire.
        My live system is antiX-23 beta2. I copied its /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf over to the installed system.
        Nothing seems to have helped.

        Have you tried selecting the sound card, in Control Centre?

        See the attachment, too.

        #110512
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        rokytnji

          I experience the same on my pulseaudio antiX boxes. I use pulse audio controls instead to control the volume. If you hit the F5 key while in alsamixer. More controls will show up.

          Audio:
            Device-1: Intel 82801DB/DBL/DBM AC97 Audio vendor: Toshiba
              driver: snd_intel8x0 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1f.5
            Sound API: ALSA v: k5.10.142-antix.2-486-smp running: yes

          that was posted before pulse audio install. I hope you used package installer in menu>applications>system instead of synaptic to install pulse audio.
          One should check there 1st since we are a systemd free operating system. Edit: missed your package install sentence. My bad.

          What does inxi report now since pulse audio was installed. Here is something I use.
          http://wiki.debian.org/Sound

          • This reply was modified 11 months ago by rokytnji.
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          #110522
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          andfree

            Thanks for your reply.
            I can’t see what changes in pulse audio controls could help.
            If I hit the F5 key while in alsamixer, I just see both Master & Capture (see the attachment).

            Audio:
              Device-1: Intel 82801DB/DBL/DBM AC97 Audio vendor: Toshiba
                driver: snd_intel8x0 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1f.5
              Sound API: ALSA v: k5.10.142-antix.2-486-smp running: yes
              Sound Server-1: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: no
              Sound Server-2: PipeWire v: 0.3.19 running: no
            $ aplay -l
            **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
            card 0: I82801DBICH4 [Intel 82801DB-ICH4], device 0: Intel ICH [Intel 82801DB-ICH4]
              Subdevices: 0/1
              Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
            card 0: I82801DBICH4 [Intel 82801DB-ICH4], device 4: Intel ICH - IEC958 [Intel 82801DB-ICH4 - IEC958]
              Subdevices: 1/1
              Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
            $ lspci -knn
            00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset Host Bridge [8086:1a30] (rev 11)
            	Subsystem: Toshiba Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset Host Bridge [1179:0001]
            	Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel
            00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset AGP Bridge [8086:1a31] (rev 11)
            00:1d.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 [8086:24c2] (rev 02)
            	Subsystem: Toshiba Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller [1179:0001]
            	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
            	Kernel modules: uhci_hcd
            00:1d.1 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 [8086:24c4] (rev 02)
            	Subsystem: Toshiba Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller [1179:0001]
            	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
            	Kernel modules: uhci_hcd
            00:1d.2 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 [8086:24c7] (rev 02)
            	Subsystem: Toshiba Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller [1179:0001]
            	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
            	Kernel modules: uhci_hcd
            00:1d.7 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller [8086:24cd] (rev 02)
            	Subsystem: Toshiba Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller [1179:0001]
            	Kernel driver in use: ehci-pci
            00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge [8086:244e] (rev 82)
            00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface Bridge [8086:24c0] (rev 02)
            	Kernel driver in use: lpc_ich
            	Kernel modules: intel_rng, lpc_ich
            00:1f.1 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller [8086:24cb] (rev 02)
            	Subsystem: Toshiba Corporation 82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller [1179:0001]
            	Kernel driver in use: ata_piix
            00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller [8086:24c5] (rev 02)
            	Subsystem: Toshiba Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller [1179:0203]
            	Kernel driver in use: snd_intel8x0
            	Kernel modules: snd_intel8x0
            01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation NV17M [GeForce4 420 Go] [10de:0175] (rev a3)
            	Subsystem: Toshiba Corporation NV17M [GeForce4 420 Go] [1179:0010]
            	Kernel driver in use: nouveau
            	Kernel modules: nouveau
            02:07.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394) [0c00]: Texas Instruments TSB43AB22A IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link) [iOHCI-Lynx] [104c:8023]
            	Subsystem: Toshiba Corporation TSB43AB22A IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link) [iOHCI-Lynx] [1179:0001]
            	Kernel driver in use: firewire_ohci
            	Kernel modules: firewire_ohci
            02:09.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter [10ec:8139] (rev 10)
            	Subsystem: Toshiba Corporation RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter [1179:0002]
            	Kernel driver in use: 8139too
            	Kernel modules: 8139cp, 8139too
            02:0b.0 CardBus bridge [0607]: Toshiba Corporation ToPIC100 PCI to Cardbus Bridge with ZV Support [1179:0617] (rev 32)
            	Subsystem: Toshiba Corporation ToPIC100 PCI to Cardbus Bridge with ZV Support [1179:0001]
            	Kernel driver in use: yenta_cardbus
            	Kernel modules: yenta_socket
            02:0b.1 CardBus bridge [0607]: Toshiba Corporation ToPIC100 PCI to Cardbus Bridge with ZV Support [1179:0617] (rev 32)
            	Subsystem: Toshiba Corporation ToPIC100 PCI to Cardbus Bridge with ZV Support [1179:0001]
            	Kernel driver in use: yenta_cardbus
            	Kernel modules: yenta_socket
            02:0d.0 System peripheral [0880]: Toshiba Corporation SD TypA Controller [1179:0805] (rev 03)
            	Subsystem: Toshiba Corporation SD TypA Controller [1179:0001]
            	Kernel driver in use: toshsd
            	Kernel modules: toshsd

            If I open xmms with “sudo”, I can’t play mp3 files:

            $ sudo xmms
            Message: device: default
            ** WARNING **: Failed to open font: "-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-10-*".
            ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): No such file or directory

            See also the attachment.

            For the /var/tmp/ directory permissions, see the attachment, too.

            • This reply was modified 11 months ago by andfree.
            • This reply was modified 11 months ago by andfree.
            #110534
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            seriousness

              You can change settings for your soundcard by hitting F6 in AlsaMixer. It should be named ‘HDA Intel’ or something.

              To manage PulseAudio settings, pavucontrol is a good tool.

              • This reply was modified 11 months ago by seriousness.
              #110539
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              RJP

                What tells command

                cat /etc/asound.conf | grep card

                …. and read the next topic

                https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/no-audio-without-pulseaudio-in-toshiba-satellite-c50d-b-solved/#post-110538

                #110592
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                andfree

                  Thanks for the replies.

                  You can change settings for your soundcard by hitting F6 in AlsaMixer. It should be named ‘HDA Intel’ or something.

                  See the attachment. Moreover, in antiX-23 beta2 Live-session, AlsaMixer shows Intel 82801DB-ICH4 as soundcard & it works.

                  To manage PulseAudio settings, pavucontrol is a good tool.

                  It’s the tool I already use.

                  What tells command
                  (…)

                  $ cat /etc/asound.conf | grep card
                  # Audio card/chip and device to use and control
                  # When commented, card and device 0 are usually automatically selected
                  #defaults.pcm.card 0
                  #defaults.ctl.card 0

                  read the next topic

                  https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/no-audio-without-pulseaudio-in-toshiba-satellite-c50d-b-solved/#post-110538

                  In my case, antiX 23 audio works with alsa, antiX 22 has the problem.

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                  #110603
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                  Xunzi_23

                    Bit of a mess as you installed pulse but still trying to get alsa tools to work.
                    Maybe purge pulse then try alsamixer -c 1

                    With pulse you need pavucontrol.

                    Easiest and fastest solution is probably to install antiX 23 Beta 2, if you have a separate
                    home partition it is quick work.

                    #110604
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                    andfree

                      Thanks for your reply.
                      Before your post, I tried a re-installation of alsa-utils, but it didn’t help.

                      Maybe purge pulse then try alsamixer -c 1

                      I uninstalled Pulseaudio via Package Installer, followed by:

                      $ sudo apt autoremove
                      Reading package lists... Done
                      Building dependency tree... Done
                      Reading state information... Done
                      The following packages will be REMOVED:
                        libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libpulsedsp libspeexdsp1 libwebrtc-audio-processing1
                        pulseaudio-utils
                      0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 5 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
                      After this operation, 1,395 kB disk space will be freed.
                      Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
                      (Reading database ... 106848 files and directories currently installed.)
                      Removing libpulse-mainloop-glib0:i386 (14.2-2.0nosystemd1) ...
                      Removing pulseaudio-utils (14.2-2.0nosystemd1) ...
                      Removing libpulsedsp:i386 (14.2-2.0nosystemd1) ...
                      Removing libspeexdsp1:i386 (1.2~rc1.2-1.1) ...
                      Removing libwebrtc-audio-processing1:i386 (0.3-1+b1) ...
                      Processing triggers for man-db (2.10.1-1~bpo11+1) ...
                      Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.31-13+deb11u6) ...

                      Then:

                      $ alsamixer -c 1
                      invalid card index: 1
                      try `alsamixer –help’ for more information

                      $ alsamixer –help
                      Usage: alsamixer [options]
                      Useful options:
                      -h, –help this help
                      -c, –card=NUMBER sound card number or id
                      -D, –device=NAME mixer device name
                      -m, –mouse enable mouse
                      -M, –no-mouse disable mouse
                      -f, –config=FILE configuration file
                      -F, –no-config do not load configuration file
                      -V, –view=MODE starting view mode: playback/capture/all
                      Debugging options:
                      -g, –no-color toggle using of colors
                      -a, –abstraction=NAME mixer abstraction level: none/basic

                      Now, alsamixer doesn’t open at all:

                      $ alsamixer
                      ALSA lib dlmisc.c:226:(snd_dlsym_verify) unable to verify version for symbol snd_func_private_integer
                      ALSA lib conf.c:4733:(_snd_config_evaluate) symbol snd_func_private_integer is not defined inside (null)
                      ALSA lib conf.c:5233:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such device or address
                      ALSA lib conf.c:3917:(snd_config_hook_load) Unable to expand filenames in the pre-load section
                      ALSA lib conf.c:3739:(snd_config_hooks_call) function snd_config_hook_load_for_all_cards returned error: No such device or address
                      ALSA lib control.c:1360:(snd_ctl_open_conf) Invalid type for CTL default definition
                      cannot open mixer: Invalid argument

                      Easiest and fastest solution is probably to install antiX 23 Beta 2, if you have a separate
                      home partition it is quick work.

                      Is it already installable? In the Live-session, I don’t see any installer.

                      • This reply was modified 11 months ago by andfree.
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                      #110637
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                      Xunzi_23

                        Hi andfree,
                        Running live.
                        In standard desktop rox icewm I had an icon on the desktop to call the installer
                        it points to /usr/share/applications/antix/minstall.desktop

                        otherwise sudo minstall in the terminal should do the trick.

                        • This reply was modified 11 months ago by Xunzi_23.
                        #110639
                        Member
                        RJP
                          #110642
                          Member
                          PPC

                            Hi andree. Like previously stated by Xunzi_23, on antiX-23 beta 2, 64bits, runnit, Full version, I do have an install icon…

                            Edit: I know antiX seldom requires a restart… but after doing some system wide change, like changing the audio system, it’s better to reboot, and then check if everything works… (Yes, I forgot to do that myself sometimes).
                            P.

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                            #110828
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                            andfree

                              Thanks for the replies.

                              In standard desktop rox icewm I had an icon on the desktop to call the installer
                              it points to /usr/share/applications/antix/minstall.desktop

                              I don’t have such an icon on the desktop, but I followed the path, found the minstall.desktop file, clicked on it & installed antiX-23 beta 2, 32bits. But, unfortunately, this was not the end of the sound problems. I booted into the installed system & tried to play an mp3 file, but the “Couldn’t open audio” window (attached to my #110522 post, as it had appeared in the Live-session, when I had opened xmms with “sudo”) appeared again.
                              Then, I tried to open alsamixer, but with no success:

                              $ alsamixer
                              ALSA lib confmisc.c:855:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
                              ALSA lib conf.c:5180:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_inum returned error: No such file or directory
                              ALSA lib confmisc.c:422:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
                              ALSA lib conf.c:5180:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned error: No such file or directory
                              ALSA lib confmisc.c:1334:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
                              ALSA lib conf.c:5180:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
                              ALSA lib conf.c:5703:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
                              ALSA lib control.c:1528:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL default
                              cannot open mixer: No such file or directory

                              It looks like the output in my #110604 post, after I had uninstalled Pulseaudio in antiX 22, but it’s not exactly the same.

                              • This reply was modified 10 months, 4 weeks ago by andfree.
                              #110841
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                              RJP

                                Are you into audio group?

                                groups

                                #110858
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                                Xunzi_23

                                  andfree, Sorry this was really unexpected to me.

                                  Did you already try to use the control center tool to do sound setup.

                                  If that did/does not work please give us result of cat /proc/asound/cards

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