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bakunin
Hi, I made a frugal install AntiX 21 full on an old computer with Xp on it. I gave space for persistence, but now, after trying to install an app, I run into a “not enough space on your device” issue. I switched out of the computer to do other things. Now I can’t even enter the frugal install, again saying not enough space on your device. I looked into the XP files, and there is the AntiX frugal-4.9.0-279-antix.1-486.smp file at 2.72 Gb, also the swap file. I guess that I should increase the size of the file, or the size of the persistence files, but I have no idea of how to do that. Any help? thanks
christophe
It sounds like your root persistence file has run out of space.
But read this article in the antiX/MX wiki. This will probably help:
https://mxlinux.org/wiki/system/frugal-installation/
confirmed antiX frugaler, since 2019
anticapitalista
It’s not just the physical size but also how much RAM is used.
Try using static persistence.Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.
antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.
Thanks.
I solved the issue by logging in using just the “frugal” setting. Once in, I could make a larger storage file, using the “create or resize persistence” utility, copying the contents of the smaller one into it. I then deleted the old, smaller file. It’s now working.
Small memory is a problem, I only have 526 of Ram, and the browsers run with a lag. I ditched Firefox because of that. Seamonkey works, with a certain amount of lag, but acceptable. Netsurf, Palemoon and Otter also work, although they too are lagging a bit. This box has an XP installed, and I put a frugal of AntiX hoping that it would run faster than from a stick, with persistence. Running from a stick without persistence is quite good, but putting any persistence on a stick (old machine, only Usb2) is a pain. I plan to remaster the frugal, make a new iso, put that into a stick and make a new frugal that can be run without persistence, hopefully faster. Or directly from a stick. This box is from an old friend, and I want to make sure that she doesn’t go on a bank site with XP.
I’m having a lot of problems with emails clients. Thunderbird requires too much memory. Claws mail can’t connect with anything. Sylpheed works with every accounts, except gmail. Again the only one that works with everything is seamonkey.
Anyway, thanks.christophe
Are you using static persistence, as anticapitalista suggested? Because if you use dynamic persistence (i.e., ram-based) you will run out of ram quickly, with only half a gig.
On a recent experience of mine, a pentium 4 with that amount of ram ran best fully-installed (though with more ram & multi-core cpu, I prefer frugal).
confirmed antiX frugaler, since 2019
Yes, I am running static persistence. I realize that maybe with a full install it would run better, however, for general browsing and emails, running from a stck is what appears to be the faster. It’s actually, with seamonkey, quite snapping. Problem is that in order to have all the personal setting in, I have to run it with persistence. That’s why I’m thinking of remastering (I have actually just done that) and then making an iso and running the new version from the stick. I just tried to run the remastered frugal version with no persistence, and it is already a lot faster than before. However, I compared with just the regular version on a stick, and that seems to run even faster. In a way, it doesn’t make sense to me, I would have thought that running from a hd would be faster than from a stick (both running from memory I mean), but in this case that doesn’t seems to be the case. It looks like half a gig is sufficient for simple browsing.
Just to add re a full install. If this was my computer, I would do just that, but the lady doesn’t want to lose xp, with all her pictures and documents etc etc. All that could be easily moved to a new install, but try to convince a brick wall. I could try a dual boot, after all I’ve done plenty of those, have 3 different distros, including AntiX on my one, but I have never done it with windows xp, and I am leery of trying it out, in case something goes wrong. I might lose a friend. Already to convince her to do a frugal I’ve had to make a couple of clonezilla images, just in case.
christophe
I’m glad it’s working well for you!
And I agree, you don’t want to tell a friend that you lost her files!If it ever comes down to it in the future (as well as anyone else reading), I recently installed XP first, then installed antiX, and the grub bootloader boots it perfectly without any manual tweaking (auto detecting it). Only shrinking the xp partition, then running the antiX installer.
Just throwing it out there 😉
confirmed antiX frugaler, since 2019
christophe
Problem is that in order to have all the personal setting in, I have to run it with persistence.
Have you thought of remastering, then running ONLY home persistence? That way any new browser bookmarks, etc., could be saved. (A small size like 250-500 MB might be fine, depending on what her usage is).
Any software updates would need to be remastered, to save them, but any files under /home/demo would be saved.
confirmed antiX frugaler, since 2019
Hi, finally I had the time to wrap things up. If anyone is interested, this is what I did.
1 Remaster the frugal install- 2 increase the home file to a size that could contain the iso. with the “set up persistence” utility -3 create the iso of the new system with the “iso snapshot” – 4 create a a new live stick with the “live usb maker”. -4 copy the iso on a separate stick for back up. 5 Delete the iso and reduce the size of the home file.
Now there is a frugal install, that I set to run with only Frugal-Home, as Christophe suggested, for everyday use,and a live version, also set to run with home persistence, that she can use for banking.
I still have the feeling that the live version is a bit faster, but if it is, is something to measure with a stopwatch. Both version run well and fast.
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