Open Document Graphics files…Not terribly “open”

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blur13 wrote:

Use plain text files. No compatibility issues whatsoever.

Plain text files are no problem, but unless you create ancient “ASCII art”, text is useless for displaying actual images, such as .jpg files, .png, not to mention video and other forms of output. As ile suggested, graphical documents can be saved in .html format and are therefore viewable in an ordinary Web browser. You don’t need anything other than any common editor or viewer to examine text; it’s the other formats that have to be saved into a format that’s viewable elsewhere because not everyone has Open Document tools. That’s what this discussion is about, unless I misunderstood every word in the original entry in this topic.

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https://en.wikipedia.org

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=ODG+format&title=Special%3ASearch&go=Go&ns0=1

fodp for presentations .odg and .fodg for graphics .odf for formula, mathematical equations The original OpenDocument format consists of an XML document

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_graphics_file_formats shows many of the different formats available. While not all of them are compatible, readable or writable with ODF or ODG, these are some of the alternatives. PDF is certainly one of them. PNG and JPG are two other viable choices for the output of drawings that are frequently available for a wide audience.

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hello stevesr0 (‘ daughter)
Happy Birthday to daughter. a Diamond birth stone.
Have a wholesome and wonderful week.

[Member stevesr0]

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Thanks for all the responses.

I guess it reaffirms the need to check how things work, rather than go by a vague idea of how they are supposed to work.

In the future, I will try to stick with either sending graphics as pdf files whenever possible, text as text when formatting (including tables) isn’t important and use .html files as a backup plan (for people with graphic browsers and no other file viewers).

Thanks to ile for the birthday greetings for my daughter – I am sending her a link to this thread with instructions to read your post!

stevesr0

(P.S. I had my birthday on the 17th April; it is birthday season around here <g>.)

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stevesr0 wrote:

Thanks for all the responses.

I guess it reaffirms the need to check how things work, rather than go by a vague idea of how they are supposed to work.

In the future, I will try to stick with either sending graphics as pdf files whenever possible, text as text when formatting (including tables) isn’t important and use .html files as a backup plan (for people with graphic browsers and no other file viewers).

Thanks to ile for the birthday greetings for my daughter – I am sending her a link to this thread with instructions to read your post!

stevesr0

(P.S. I had my birthday on the 17th April; it is birthday season around here <g>.)

In that case, “Happy Birthday!” to all who are part of your family’s “Birthday Season”!

Regarding formats, your latest response is a very good idea, and the reason is straightforward; beyond .txt, .doc, .docx, ,pdf, .jpg, and .mpeg and their variations, people often don’t understand attachments. Yeah, “technical people” know immediately, and people who use computers every day at work get used to attachments too, but I now live in a senior citizen community where there are people with computers and phones, but if they’re much over 75 years old, there is a diminishing number of people who can do more than open an Email (unless they’ve taken classes or are otherwise taught). People from this age range are part of a group that represents when computers did exist, but the majority of them were expensive commercial machines, and unless the people worked in places where they had to use those machines, they may have never been exposed to them.

My father, for example, was an insurance executive. He was extremely intelligent, and he could do arithmetic and even multi-digit multiplication IN HIS HEAD and come up with an accurate answer faster than I could type it into a calculator or a computer. He finally talked about getting his own computer (primarily to communicate with family members), but he died before it ever happened. My mother used computers a little bit, but was typical of the older people here; intelligent, but not versed in the details of computers; she’d forget what she learned. My oldest sister, on the other hand, was a teacher and used a computer regularly, as did the rest of us; it’s mainly about what we were “brought up with” and what we’re familiar with. Many intelligent people simply never learned the finer points, and now, at an older age, it’s more difficult to remember, even when taught.

Whatever is the case for those we know, if we don’t have the “background”, it’s not easy to “get it”. Most of us here, however, are quite capable of picking up new things and retain them; we’re NOT typical consumers; looking for a system that works well with old computers is not something the “average consumer” would consider, though I’m sure there are exceptions to any generalization, including the ones I’ve suggested here.

I’m glad it’s working out now. Best wishes – for the computers and for the birthday celebrations!

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old school workaround
print copy and put it advance in the mail.
Happy Anniversaries

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Hi ile,
That is our default — we were too late to do that.

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