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andfree
Hi. It has been some days while Palemoon crashes (disappears) every time I try to visit this site.
System: Kernel: 4.9.0-326-antix.1-486-smp arch: i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.2.2 Distro: antiX-21_386-base Grup Yorum 31 October 2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) Machine: Type: Laptop System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite 2450 v: PS245E-03TE0-GK serial: <superuser required> Mobo: TOSHIBA model: Portable PC v: Version A0 serial: <superuser required> BIOS: TOSHIBA v: Version 1.30 date: 03/20/2003 CPU: Info: single core model: Intel Pentium 4 bits: 32 arch: Netburst Northwood rev: 7 cache: 512 KiB note: check Speed (MHz): 2793 min/max: N/A core: 1: 2793 bogomips: 5586 Flags: ht pae sse sse2 Graphics: Device-1: NVIDIA NV17M [GeForce4 420 Go] vendor: Toshiba driver: nouveau v: kernel arch: Kelvin bus-ID: 01:00.0 Display: server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: nouveau unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa gpu: nouveau resolution: 1024x768~60Hz OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI nv17 x86/MMX/SSE2 v: 1.2 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes Audio: Device-1: Intel 82801DB/DBL/DBM AC97 Audio vendor: Toshiba driver: snd_intel8x0 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1f.5 Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k4.9.0-326-antix.1-486-smp running: yes Network: Device-1: Realtek RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter vendor: Toshiba driver: 8139too v: 0.9.28 port: ce00 bus-ID: 02:09.0 IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros TP-Link TL-WN821N v2 / TL-WN822N v1 802.11n [Atheros AR9170] type: USB driver: carl9170 bus-ID: 1-3:6 IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> Drives: Local Storage: total: 93.16 GiB used: 28.45 GiB (30.5%) ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Toshiba model: MK1032GAX size: 93.16 GiB Partition: ID-1: / size: 89.65 GiB used: 28.45 GiB (31.7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 Swap: ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 1.5 GiB used: 360 KiB (0.0%) dev: /dev/sda2 Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 83.0 C mobo: N/A Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A Info: Processes: 132 Uptime: 3h 30m Memory: 1000.3 MiB used: 301.2 MiB (30.1%) Init: runit runlevel: 2 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 Packages: 1378 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 inxi: 3.3.19
andyprough
There are some sites that Pale Moon will not work with, because Pale Moon does not have a full implementation of Google’s WebComponents. For those sites you will need to use a different browser. Librewolf would be a good choice.
PPC
Librewolf would be a good choice
This is a generically very good advice. But unfortunately LW is not currently built for the 32 bits arch… In those cases, stick with firefox-esr, seamonkey or firefox. You can also try some other browsers that have 32bits versions (I sometimes use an old Min browser version, the last one created for 32bits- it’s some 2 years old, so also very unsecure, but usually very fast). There are several forum threads about the subject…
andyprough
This is a generically very good advice. But unfortunately LW is not currently built for the 32 bits arch… In those cases, stick with firefox-esr, seamonkey or firefox
Good point. If you would like to try a 32-bit browser that’s basically the same as Librewolf, you can try the Trisquel distro’s “Abrowser”: https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/trisquel-packages/pool/main/f/firefox/abrowser_107.0+build2-0ubuntu0.18.04.1+9.0trisquel93_i386.deb
It should install fine on any recent version of 32-bit antiX. It is built with the configuration of the “GNU Icecat” browser, which eliminates telemetry and most other privacy and security issues in Firefox. Abrowser is kept up-to-date, unlike Icecat. You can find the latest i386 versions a few days after new Firefox versions are released here: https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/trisquel-packages/pool/main/f/firefox/?C=M;O=D
Abrowser does not allow for DRM to be enabled [digital rights media], so you won’t be able to play things that need proprietary DRM like Netflix. If you want to play Netflix, you’ll want to use Firefox or a chromium-based browser.
ModdIt
@andyprough, thanks for pointing to abrowser.
Firefox ESR is not good privacy wise as delivered but pretty easy to improve, it works well for students
who must have DRM enabled at times and some video conference software. Banks and majority of other sites
accept it.ESR accepts Userchrome scripts, with that, plus arkenfox user.js which should be regarded as a starting point
plus ublock origin it is good to very good. Please see some comments from Security Specialist Kuketz at Ghacks,
or other serious reviews if wished.I recommend to remove the hidden extensions and disable pingsender etc, howto posted several times so will not
repeat.Thanks for your replies, but Palemoon worked properly with this site before upgrading to 31.4.0 (32-bit) version. I’ve checked it with a different laptop. No problems with 31.2.0.1 version, but the problem appeared again after the upgrade.
andyprough
Thanks for your replies, but Palemoon worked properly with this site before upgrading to 31.4.0 (32-bit) version. I’ve checked it with a different laptop. No problems with 31.2.0.1 version, but the problem appeared again after the upgrade.
There is a point release, 31.4.1, to fix errors on some systems. You should probably try it, see if it helps: https://software.opensuse.org//download.html?project=home%3Astevenpusser&package=palemoon
Thank you andyprough, good info.
just directly downloaded and installed the point release.For new users a deb can be installed by entering
sudo apt install in to the terminal then drag and drop package or packages from download
location in to the teminal window.
The path to packages will be automagicaly entered. Press enter follow messages to finish install.New packages installed with apt will (with few exceptions) automagicaly get a menu entry.
Those installed using the antiX package installer will also update when new versions are in repos.
Updates becoming available can take several days. Longer for backported applications.- This reply was modified 5 months ago by ModdIt.
- This reply was modified 5 months ago by ModdIt.
Thanks for your new replies.
palemoon from home:stevenpusser project Select Your Operating SystemThere are two options: Debian & Ubuntu. Should I choose the Debian one?
- This reply was modified 5 months ago by andfree.
- This reply was modified 5 months ago by andfree.
madibi
There are two options: Debian & Ubuntu. Should I choose the Debian one?
yes
For new users a deb can be installed by entering
sudo apt install in to the terminal then drag and drop package or packages from download
location in to the teminal window.
The path to packages will be automagicaly entered. Press enter follow messages to finish install.Drag and drop doesn’t seem to work with urxvt. I tried copy-paste, but:
$ sudo apt install palemoon_31.4.1-1.gtk2_i386.deb Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package palemoon_31.4.1-1.gtk2_i386.debandyprough
You have to tell apt that the deb file is in your present working directory with a “./”, like so:
sudo apt install ./palemoon_31.4.1-1.gtk2_i386.debsudo apt install ./palemoon_31.4.1-1.gtk2_i386.deb
This worked, many thanks. I installed the Package for Debian 11 but, unfortunately, the problem about I wrote in my initial post still remains.
andyprough
Yes as I said, Pale Moon will not work with every website. Google has introduced new web technologies that some sites use that Pale Moon does not have any code to handle.
Google has introduced new web technologies that some sites use that Pale Moon does not have any code to handle.
But, Palemoon 31.2.0.1 didn’t seem to have any problem to handle whatever this site uses.
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