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krod16
I’m a new user of antiX and really happy with the performance. Unfortunately, it seems to have a random freeze that I notice is frequent when using any video intense app in the browser e.g. YouTube or wave.video (video editor).
The entire system freezes on the screen but I am able to move the mouse cursor around. But no clicks or other windows can be accessed. The only way to recover the system is with a hard boot pressing the power key.
I was also trying to install the Nvidia drivers to see if that could resolve the problem but seems it does not install correctly on this old system.
PPC
From what you are describing it seems that your graphical card may not be working correctly in antiX.
If may be:
-hardware fault (ex: the card orver heats when performing resoruce intensive tasks)
– Kernel problem,- try a new kernel
– etc.Please post your full system info so folks here can try to help you – you didn’t even say what antix version you installed – 19 or 21? (I assume it’s 21, since you posted here) 32bits or 64bits? Full?… etc… Not even the most expert forum user here is a wizard that will guess your system’s info!
Edit: your problem may be related to what you say here: https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/kernel-5-10-57-dont-boot-after-update/#post-81401
P.
- This reply was modified 1 year ago by PPC.
- This reply was modified 1 year ago by PPC.
Anonymous
Also instead of hard booting you can try pressing ….. control + alt + backspace
to restart X.krod16
Also instead of hard booting you can try pressing ….. control + alt + backspace
to restart X.None of the keys work. I have to do a hard boot.
- This reply was modified 1 year ago by krod16.
krod16
From what you are describing it seems that your graphical card may not be working correctly in antiX.
If may be:
-hardware fault (ex: the card orver heats when performing resoruce intensive tasks)
– Kernel problem,- try a new kernel
– etc.Please post your full system info so folks here can try to help you – you didn’t even say what antix version you installed – 19 or 21? (I assume it’s 21, since you posted here) 32bits or 64bits? Full?… etc… Not even the most expert forum user here is a wizard that will guess your system’s info!
Edit: your problem may be related to what you say here: https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/kernel-5-10-57-dont-boot-after-update/#post-81401
P.
I don’t think it’s a hardware fault as I don’t see this problem using another variant such as Ubuntu.
Yes, The version I have installed is antiX 21 64 bit and full.
Please let me know if you need any more information/logs that I could extract and provide from the system.
The link that you mentioned above is a problem that I did face after I had to hard boot several times due to this particular freeze issue. The 5.10 kernel stopped working after a few hard boots. It was working fine with the 4.9 kernel. Then I tried to manually install Nvidia legacy drivers and the 5.10 started working again even though the drivers don’t seem to have successfully loaded.
- This reply was modified 1 year ago by krod16.
ok it was a thought since you said the mouse worked. Can you please post output of
inxi -zv7krod16
ok it was a thought since you said the mouse worked. Can you please post output of
inxi -zv7Here are the logs,
System: Kernel: 5.10.57-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 Desktop: IceWM 2.8.0 vt: 7 dm: N/A Distro: antiX-21_x64-full Grup Yorum 31 October 2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) Machine: Type: Portable System: Dell product: Vostro 3446 v: N/A serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 8 serial: <filter> Mobo: Dell model: 0JKRPT v: A01 serial: <filter> BIOS: Dell v: A01 date: 03/28/2014 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 22.9 Wh (100.0%) condition: 22.9/48.8 Wh (46.9%) volts: 12.4 min: 11.1 model: LGC-LGC3.0 DELL 49VTP27 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full Memory: RAM: total: 3.75 GiB used: 2.41 GiB (64.3%) RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required. CPU: Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-4005U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Haswell rev: 1 cache: L2: 3 MiB bogomips: 13568 Speed: 1696 MHz min/max: 800/1700 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1696 2: 1696 3: 1696 4: 1696 Flags: abm acpi aes aperfmperf apic arat arch_perfmon avx avx2 bmi1 bmi2 bts clflush cmov constant_tsc cpuid cpuid_fault cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts epb ept ept_ad erms est f16c flexpriority flush_l1d fma fpu fsgsbase fxsr ht ibpb ibrs ida invpcid invpcid_single lahf_lm lm mca mce md_clear mmx monitor movbe msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl nx pae pat pbe pcid pclmulqdq pdcm pdpe1gb pebs pge pln pni popcnt pse pse36 pti pts rdrand rdtscp rep_good sdbg sep smep ss ssbd sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 stibp syscall tm tm2 tpr_shadow tsc tsc_adjust tsc_deadline_timer vme vmx vnmi vpid xsave xsaveopt xtopology xtpr Graphics: Device-1: Intel Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0a16 class-ID: 0300 Device-2: NVIDIA GF117M [GeForce 610M/710M/810M/820M / GT 620M/625M/630M/720M] vendor: Dell driver: nvidia v: 390.144 bus-ID: 08:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1140 class-ID: 0302 Device-3: Suyin Integrated_Webcam_HD type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-1.5:3 chip-ID: 064e:9205 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter> Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: modesetting,nouveau unloaded: fbdev,vesa failed: nvidia alternate: nv resolution: 1366x768~60Hz s-dpi: 96 OpenGL: renderer: N/A v: N/A direct render: N/A Audio: Device-1: Intel Haswell-ULT HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:03.0 chip-ID: 8086:0a0c class-ID: 0403 Device-2: Intel 8 Series HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:9c20 class-ID: 0403 Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.57-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes Network: Device-1: Broadcom BCM43142 802.11b/g/n vendor: Dell Wireless 1704 802.11n + BT 4.0 driver: wl v: kernel port: f040 bus-ID: 06:00.0 chip-ID: 14e4:4365 class-ID: 0280 IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> IP v4: <filter> scope: global broadcast: <filter> IP v6: <filter> scope: link Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Dell driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e000 bus-ID: 07:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200 IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> WAN IP: <filter> Bluetooth: Device-1: Broadcom BCM43142 Bluetooth 4.0 type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-1.6:4 chip-ID: 0a5c:21d7 class-ID: fe01 serial: <filter> Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: down bt-service: running rfk-block: hardware: no software: yes address: <filter> Logical: Message: No logical block device data found. RAID: Message: No RAID data found. Drives: Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 22.72 GiB (4.9%) ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST500LT012-1DG142 size: 465.76 GiB speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> rev: SDM1 scheme: GPT Optical-1: /dev/sr0 vendor: PLDS model: DVD+-RW DU-8A5LH rev: BD11 dev-links: cdrom,cdrw,dvd,dvdrw Features: speed: 24 multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r,dvd-ram state: running Partition: ID-1: / size: 99 GiB used: 6.48 GiB (6.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 label: rootantiX21 uuid: 25e32ab2-2df9-44ac-94e8-af35b9c62f55 ID-2: /home size: 351.91 GiB used: 16.24 GiB (4.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda4 label: homeantiX uuid: 1c75907e-74ce-480d-bfa5-73c4fe018a33 Swap: ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 5.75 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/sda3 label: swapantiX uuid: f4f7d206-7cce-45d7-83ce-1e886f05d307 Unmounted: ID-1: /dev/sda1 size: 256 MiB fs: vfat label: EFI System uuid: 4D10-B081 USB: Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900 Hub-2: 1-1:2 info: Intel Integrated Rate Matching Hub ports: 8 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 8087:8000 class-ID: 0900 Device-1: 1-1.5:3 info: Suyin Integrated_Webcam_HD type: Video driver: uvcvideo interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 500mA chip-ID: 064e:9205 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter> Device-2: 1-1.6:4 info: Broadcom BCM43142 Bluetooth 4.0 type: Bluetooth driver: btusb interfaces: 4 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 0a5c:21d7 class-ID: fe01 serial: <filter> Device-3: 1-1.8:5 info: Realtek RTS5129 Card Reader Controller type: <vendor specific> driver: rtsx_usb,rtsx_usb_ms,rtsx_usb_sdmmc interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 500mA chip-ID: 0bda:0129 class-ID: ff00 serial: <filter> Hub-3: 2-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 8 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900 Hub-4: 3-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 4 rev: 3.0 speed: 5 Gb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0003 class-ID: 0900 Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 58.0 C mobo: 55.0 C Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2659 Info: Processes: 170 Uptime: 1h 18m wakeups: 2 Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Packages: apt: 1827 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 running-in: roxterm inxi: 3.3.06ModdIt
Kernel: 5.10.57-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits is perhaps unwise.
Please read: *updated 15 March 2022* security-kernel-upgrades
Your device is from 2014, maybe see if it runs better with the 4.19 KernelCurrent patched kernels are as follows,
5.10.104 (64bit and 32 bit pae and non-pae-486)
4.19.222 (64bit and 32 bit pae and non-pae-486)
4.9.0-294 (64 bit and 32 bit pae and non-pae-486)
4.4.0-296 (64 bit and 32 bit pae and non-pae-486)You gave no indication on which browser you use, if chrome chrome based please delete the cache
I just delete all in myusername/.cache/chromium/chromium
then disable hardware acceleration in chrome flags.Another recently experienced random crashing problem was fixed by removing open java.
You might find some clues in ~/.desktop-session/current.log or pervious logs.
- This reply was modified 1 year ago by ModdIt.
caprea
Please try another kernel, they are easy to install with control-centre > software > package installer > Kernel.
You can also update your 5.10.57 to the current kernel 5.10.104 this way by installing it.By default the system will always boot into the newest kernel, so if you want to boot into 4.19 you have to do this with the advanced options in boot menu.(The boot order can be changed later if you find a better working kernel)
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: modesetting,nouveau
unloaded: fbdev,vesa failed: nvidia alternate: nv
resolution: 1366×768~60Hz s-dpi: 96
OpenGL: renderer: N/A v: N/A direct render: N/AIt looks like something went very wrong during the installation of the nvidia driver.
nouveau is still loaded here.There is no OpenGL.
How did you install the driver?krod16
Please try another kernel, they are easy to install with control-centre > software > package installer > Kernel.
You can also update your 5.10.57 to the current kernel 5.10.104 this way by installing it.By default the system will always boot into the newest kernel, so if you want to boot into 4.19 you have to do this with the advanced options in boot menu.(The boot order can be changed later if you find a better working kernel)
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: modesetting,nouveau
unloaded: fbdev,vesa failed: nvidia alternate: nv
resolution: 1366×768~60Hz s-dpi: 96
OpenGL: renderer: N/A v: N/A direct render: N/AIt looks like something went very wrong during the installation of the nvidia driver.
nouveau is still loaded here.There is no OpenGL.
How did you install the driver?I am unable to see the kernel version 5.10.104 for installation. See attachment.
I had tried to install the Nvidia drivers from the Control Center and also from the terminal by finding out the graphic card and the correct driver to be installed. Both don’t seem to work.
Attachments:
krod16
Kernel: 5.10.57-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits is perhaps unwise.
Please read: *updated 15 March 2022* security-kernel-upgrades
Your device is from 2014, maybe see if it runs better with the 4.19 KernelCurrent patched kernels are as follows,
5.10.104 (64bit and 32 bit pae and non-pae-486)
4.19.222 (64bit and 32 bit pae and non-pae-486)
4.9.0-294 (64 bit and 32 bit pae and non-pae-486)
4.4.0-296 (64 bit and 32 bit pae and non-pae-486)You gave no indication on which browser you use, if chrome chrome based please delete the cache
I just delete all in myusername/.cache/chromium/chromium
then disable hardware acceleration in chrome flags.Another recently experienced random crashing problem was fixed by removing open java.
You might find some clues in ~/.desktop-session/current.log or pervious logs.
I have tried it with different browsers such as Chrome, Chromium, Firefox and seen random freeze with all of them. For some reason, I don’t see the kernel version 5.10.104 to be able to install it. See attached screenshot below.
The kernel is available in the package installer. If you are unable to see it, have you broken your repo list ?.
May also be worth changing the repo to one near your location.using the conrol center tool.
The listyou posted is outdated..
sybok
Hi @krod16,
changing repositories: [antiX] Control Centre -> Software -> Repo Manager.
Please provide information about your repositories via ‘inxi -r’ if you continue to experience problems installing the suggested kernel.Few other suggestions to decrease the probability of freezes (not related to potential driver issues but rather dealing with the limited resources):
1) Lower resource-access priority of resource-heavy programs by starting them as follows:
/usr/bin/nice <application name>
See ‘man nice’ for more details.You may modify the action corresponding to the icon OR define a custom shortcut to start the application this way
2) Same as in 1) via a different tool CPU-limit, see e.g. ‘man cpulimit’ or https://www.maketecheasier.com/limit-cpu-usage-of-any-process-in-linux/
3) Use a different browser, use ad-block add-on and/or turn off most/some of the scripts running on the web-page e.g. via the Firefox add-on ‘noscript’.
This was discussed elsewhere in the forum.One thought on the kernel not showing up is might have to run update in
order for it to be there. In a terminalsudo apt updatekrod16
One thought on the kernel not showing up is might have to run update in
order for it to be there. In a terminalsudo apt updateI changed the repo location to somewhere closer. I also ran the command. But I still don’t see the 5.10.104 kernel available.
$ inxi -r Repos: No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/airvpn-stable.list 1: deb http://eddie.website/repository/apt stable main Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 1: deb http://mirrors.piconets.webwerks.in/mx-mirror/packages/antix/bullseye/ bullseye main nosystemd nonfree Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bullseye-backports.list 1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports main contrib non-free Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main contrib non-free Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 1: deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free 2: deb http://security.debian.org/ bullseye-security main contrib non-free Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/insync.list 1: deb http://apt.insync.io/debian bullseye non-free contrib Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/megasync.list 1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/meganz-archive-keyring.gpg] https://mega.nz/linux/repo/Debian_11/ ./ Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list 1: deb https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/ stable non-free No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list- This reply was modified 1 year ago by krod16.
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