runit on testing error: antiX Updater tries to remove init & runit

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“…WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed.
This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!
init
runit-init (due to init)
20 upgraded, 7 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 26.9 MB of archives.
After this operation, 7,941 kB of additional disk space will be used.
You are about to do something potentially harmful.
To continue type in the phrase ‘Yes, do as I say!'”

To which, I of course type ‘n’

anticapitalista’s sig contains: “antiX with runit – leaner and meaner.”
I agree. Perhaps the ‘AntiX Updater’ script for runit should be changed from “apt” to “apt-get”?

What does work is: sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
apt does NOT work.
And as instructed:

$ inxi -Fxz
System:
  Kernel: 4.19.152-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
  Desktop: JWM 2.4.0 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid 
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: P8B75-V v: Rev X.0x serial: <filter> 
  BIOS: American Megatrends v: 1601 date: 09/19/2013 
CPU:
  Info: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-3350P bits: 64 type: MCP 
  arch: Ivy Bridge rev: 9 L2 cache: 6 MiB 
  flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 24739 
  Speed: 3186 MHz min/max: 1600/3300 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 3186 2: 3218 
  3: 3186 4: 3140 
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210] vendor: eVga.com. driver: nvidia 
  v: 340.108 bus ID: 01:00.0 
  Display: server: X.Org 1.20.10 driver: loaded: nvidia 
  resolution: 1920x1080~75Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: GeForce 210/PCIe/SSE2 v: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.108 
  direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio 
  vendor: ASUSTeK P8Z77-V LX driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 
  Device-2: NVIDIA High Definition Audio vendor: eVga.com. 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.1 
  Device-3: Microsoft LifeCam Cinema type: USB 
  driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo bus ID: 1-1.5:3 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.152-antix.1-amd64-smp 
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
  vendor: ASUSTeK P8 series driver: r8169 v: kernel port: d000 
  bus ID: 03:00.0 
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.35 TiB used: 270.38 GiB (19.6%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD1002FAEX-00Z3A0 
  size: 931.51 GiB 
  ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Western Digital model: WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 
  size: 298.09 GiB 
  ID-3: /dev/sdc vendor: Western Digital model: WD1600JB-00GVA0 
  size: 149.05 GiB 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 14.34 GiB used: 9.41 GiB (65.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-0 
  mapped: rootfs 
  ID-2: /boot size: 9.55 GiB used: 4.68 GiB (49.1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb7 
  ID-3: /opt size: 38.2 GiB used: 11.23 GiB (29.4%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda10 
Swap:
  Alert: No Swap data was found. 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8 C mobo: 27.8 C gpu: nvidia temp: 39 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 
Info:
  Processes: 232 Uptime: 6h 13m Memory: 7.72 GiB used: 1016.6 MiB (12.9%) 
  Init: runit runlevel: 2 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 Packages: 1960 Shell: Bash 
  v: 5.1.4 inxi: 3.3.01 

Great distro… My main boot of the 25 bootable on my 3 HDs.
Of course I relish its finely tuned jwm wm which is the only one I use now.

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Inxi shows you are using bullseye/sid.
Is it bullseye or sid?
Did you upgrade from buster?

I don’t see the warning on my buster/based runit, nor my bullseye alpha (converted to runit) install

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inxi -b will show bullseye only

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Sorry Murdock2525, it does not show only bullseye.
to anticapitalista: “Is it bullseye or sid? Did you upgrade from buster?”

What I installed was: antiX-19.3-runit_x64-full.iso
And as can be seen from my repositories I did change to testing NOT sid:

$ inxi -br
System:
  Host: i5 Kernel: 4.19.152-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 
  Desktop: JWM 2.4.0 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid 
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: P8B75-V v: Rev X.0x 
  serial: <superuser required> BIOS: American Megatrends v: 1601 
  date: 09/19/2013 
CPU:
  Info: Quad Core Intel Core i5-3350P [MCP] speed: 1596 MHz 
  min/max: 1600/3300 MHz 
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210] driver: nvidia v: 340.108 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.10 driver: loaded: nvidia 
  resolution: 1920x1080~75Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: GeForce 210/PCIe/SSE2 v: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.108 
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
  driver: r8169 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.35 TiB used: 270.42 GiB (19.6%) 
Repos:
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
  1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/antix/testing testing main nonfree nosystemd
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/buster-backports.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-backports main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
  2: deb http://security.debian.org testing-security main contrib non-free
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/onion.list 
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:
  Processes: 234 Uptime: 5m Memory: 7.72 GiB used: 907.7 MiB (11.5%) 
  Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.01 

Perhaps the whole antix Updater listing will help?

The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
   getty-run (2.1.2-40.0antix1)
   libldb2 (2:2.2.0-3+b1)
   libreadline5 (5.2+dfsg-3+b13)
   libsmbclient (2:4.13.4+dfsg-1)
   python3-ldb (2:2.2.0-3+b1)
   python3-talloc (2.3.1-2+b1)
   samba-libs (2:4.13.4+dfsg-1)
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
   init (1.60)
   runit-init (2.1.2-40.0antix1)
The following NEW packages will be installed:
   libinih1 (53-1+b1)
   libmd0 (1.0.3-3)
   libmd0:i386 (1.0.3-3)
   libmpdec3 (2.5.1-1)
   libopus0:i386 (1.3.1-0.1)
   libplacebo72 (2.72.2-1)
   system-keyboard-qt (21.02.01+antix2)
The following packages will be upgraded:
   antix-installer (1.3.5 => 1.4.1)
   cdparanoia (3.10.2+debian-13+b1 => 3.10.2+debian-13.1)
   gir1.2-vte-2.91 (0.62.2-1 => 0.62.3-1)
   git (1:2.30.0-1 => 1:2.30.1-1)
   git-man (1:2.30.0-1 => 1:2.30.1-1)
   intel-microcode (3.20201118.1 => 3.20210216.1)
   libbsd0 (0.10.0-1 => 0.11.3-1)
   libbsd0:i386 (0.10.0-1 => 0.11.3-1)
   libcdparanoia0 (3.10.2+debian-13+b1 => 3.10.2+debian-13.1)
   libcmis-0.5-5v5 (0.5.2-2+b2 => 0.5.2-3)
   libdns-export1110 (1:9.11.19+dfsg-1 => 1:9.11.19+dfsg-2)
   libisc-export1105 (1:9.11.19+dfsg-1 => 1:9.11.19+dfsg-2)
   libjson-glib-1.0-0 (1.6.0-3 => 1.6.2-1)
   libjson-glib-1.0-common (1.6.0-3 => 1.6.2-1)
   libmpv1 (0.32.0-2+b1 => 0.32.0-2.0antix1)
   libpcsclite1 (1.9.0-1 => 1.9.1-1)
   libpython3.9 (3.9.1-2 => 3.9.1-4)
   libpython3.9-minimal (3.9.1-2 => 3.9.1-4)
   libpython3.9-stdlib (3.9.1-2 => 3.9.1-4)
   libsdl1.2debian (1.2.15+dfsg2-5 => 1.2.15+dfsg2-6)
   libsndfile1 (1.0.28-8 => 1.0.31-1)
   libsndfile1:i386 (1.0.28-8 => 1.0.31-1)
   libvte-2.91-0 (0.62.2-1 => 0.62.3-1)
   libvte-2.91-common (0.62.2-1 => 0.62.3-1)
   nano (5.5-1.0antix1 => 5.6-1.0antix1)
   python3.9 (3.9.1-2 => 3.9.1-4)
   python3.9-minimal (3.9.1-2 => 3.9.1-4)
   tar (1.32+dfsg-1 => 1.34+dfsg-1)
   xfsprogs (5.6.0-1+b2 => 5.10.0-4)
   xserver-common (2:1.20.10-2 => 2:1.20.10-3)
   xserver-xorg-core (2:1.20.10-2 => 2:1.20.10-3)
   xserver-xorg-input-elographics (1:1.4.1-2+b1 => 1:1.4.2-1)
   xserver-xorg-video-mach64 (6.9.6-2+b1 => 6.9.6-3)
WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed.
This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!
   init
   runit-init (due to init)
33 upgraded, 7 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 32.0 MB of archives.
After this operation, 7,933 kB of additional disk space will be used.
You are about to do something potentially harmful.
To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'

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What happens if you remove the buster-backports repo?

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anticapitalista wrote:

What happens if you remove the buster-backports repo?

No change. I already tried that.
Still only apt-get upgrade will work. Nothing else.

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after apt-get upgrade? What does apt dist-upgrade show?

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Thanks for looking into it.

But I really like your distro and it is my main one. I wad just uncomfortable only using “upgrade” on testing.
I used AptoSid and now Siduction for years but always “dist-upgrade”.

Should I just switch the repositories to sid and see if that solves it?

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It seems weird since there isn’t anything in the upgrade that should remove init and runit-init.

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anticapitalista wrote:

after apt-get upgrade? What does apt dist-upgrade show?

Here it is:

apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  getty-run libldb2 libreadline5 libsmbclient python3-ldb python3-talloc
  samba-libs
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  init runit-init
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libinih1 libmd0 libmd0:i386 libmpdec3 libopus0:i386 libplacebo72
The following packages will be upgraded:
  libbsd0 libbsd0:i386 libmpv1 libpython3.9 libpython3.9-minimal
  libpython3.9-stdlib libsndfile1 libsndfile1:i386 python3.9 python3.9-minimal
  xfsprogs
WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed.
This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!
  init runit-init (due to init)
11 upgraded, 6 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 11.2 MB of archives.
After this operation, 7,484 kB of additional disk space will be used.
You are about to do something potentially harmful.
To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'

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libbsd0:i386 and libsndfile1:i386 might be the culprits.
Neither are in Debian testing repo.
What are they used for?
What happens if you purge them and then dist-upgrade?

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OK. I just apt-get install the above packages:
libbsd0 libbsd0:i386 libmpv1 libpython3.9 libpython3.9-minimal
libpython3.9-stdlib libsndfile1 libsndfile1:i386 python3.9 python3.9-minimal
xfsprogs

Then:

# apt autoremove
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libldb2 libreadline5 libsmbclient python3-ldb python3-talloc samba-libs
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 6 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
After this operation, 27.1 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 194102 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing libsmbclient:amd64 (2:4.13.4+dfsg-1) ...
Removing samba-libs:amd64 (2:4.13.4+dfsg-1) ...
Removing python3-ldb (2:2.2.0-3+b1) ...
Removing libldb2:amd64 (2:2.2.0-3+b1) ...
Removing libreadline5:amd64 (5.2+dfsg-3+b13) ...
Removing python3-talloc:amd64 (2.3.1-2+b1) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.9.4-1) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.31-9) ...

Now this is what apt says is the problem:`
# apt upgrade
Reading package lists… Done
Building dependency tree… Done
Reading state information… Done
Calculating upgrade… Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
elogind : Conflicts: systemd
Conflicts: systemd:i386
eudev : Breaks: systemd (> 220)
Breaks: systemd:i386 (> 220)
libelogind0 : Conflicts: libsystemd0
libelogind0:i386 : Conflicts: libsystemd0
runit-init : Conflicts: systemd-sysv
Conflicts: systemd-sysv:i386
E: Broken packages`

But apt-get upgrade is happy:`
# apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists… Done
Building dependency tree… Done
Reading state information… Done
Calculating upgrade… Done
The following packages have been kept back:
init
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.`

While apt dist-upgrade still complains:

# apt dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
  getty-run
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove it.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  init runit-init
WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed.
This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!
  init runit-init (due to init)
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 73.7 kB disk space will be freed.
You are about to do something potentially harmful.
To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'
 ?]

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Try removing them rather than upgrading them

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Could the problem be init now depends on systemd-sysv | sysvinit-core instead of systemd-sysv | sysvinit-core | runit-init

• This reply was modified 2 years, 2 months ago by Dzhigit.

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anticapitalista wrote:

libbsd0:i386 and libsndfile1:i386 might be the culprits.
Neither are in Debian testing repo.
What are they used for?
What happens if you purge them and then dist-upgrade?

Well I apt-get removed them. Sorry, I kow you said purge.
I believe they came in with wine. But I own Crossover Office so I don’t care about wine.

But still no joy:

# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
  getty-run
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove it.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  init runit-init
WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed.
This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!
  init runit-init (due to init)
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 73.7 kB disk space will be freed.
You are about to do something potentially harmful.
To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'
 ?]

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