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BobC
This started out as a request in the antiX 22 thread, but should be in a separate thread so it doesn’t divert attention from anticapitalista’s more important issues in that thread. So I’m going to try splitting its posts out to this thread.
Is Dave watching this thread?
If Preferred Applications would show all FileManager category .desktops (including in subdirectories like antix) and only FileManager .desktops to make selecting a default file manager easier, that would help a lot. Rox-filer needs to have FileManager added to its Categories line.
PS: I looked at the code for this and I think that when you pop up the selection of applications, it would need to build a recursive list of matching FileManager entries to select from rather than a wide open select of what is in the directory
Another possibility would be to add a separate “Change Preferred Applications” menu option. I was thinking on the Desktop menu. The downside is it adds to the menus.
I made and tested the changes to Preferred Applications (desktop-defaults-set program) that I was suggesting, and made the changes for all of the Preferred Application Groups, not just file managers. I made no changes to any text, so no translation effort would be required. The program defaults to the current setting, and shows local ,desktop apps as well as system ones, sorted alphabetically, excluding the current default.
# Categories = Values in .desktop files needed to select
# Terminal – TerminalEmulator
# Web Browser – WebBrowser
# File Manager – FileManager
# Email Client – Email
# Text Editor – TextEditor
# Image Viewer – GraphicsViewer
# Video Player – VideoPlayer
# Audio Player – AudioPlayerNo other changes are needed to make it work, except adding the FileManager category to the rox-filer .desktop file. I’ll see if Dave is willing to look at the code.
PS: Just adding a zip of the code here in case anyone would like to try it. If you have any updated desktop files they will get included on the selections if you put them in ~/.local/share/applications or a subdirectory of it. Thanks to Dave for creating the original. This is just an enhancement of his creation.
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PPC
in case anyone would like to try it
Many thanks, Bob.
Great idea! I tested the script and I have a suggestion that do not imply changing Rox’s .desktop file:– simply check if rox’s desktop file exists and, if so, add it to the correct list.
Other suggestions:
– On the “Terminal” field- remove gksu from the list of displayed .desktop filesOn the video and audio players: the use of the .desktop’s file description sometimes produces far from perfect results, I have loads of media player installed and some audio players come up on the video player’s list and vice versa (no problem there, most video players do play audio files just fine).
Great idea!
EDIT: some .desktop files that should be cleaned up from the audio/video player’s list:
alsamixer, alsamixer-equalizer, audio-player, Sound_card, speaker-test, video-playerP.
- This reply was modified 8 months, 3 weeks ago by PPC.
I did it by Categories. Maybe that’s not the right way.
marcelocripe
I made and tested the changes to Preferred Applications (desktop-defaults-set program) that I was suggesting, and made the changes for all of the Preferred Application Groups, not just file managers. I made no changes to any text, so no translation effort would be required. The program defaults to the current setting, and shows local ,desktop apps as well as system ones, sorted alphabetically, excluding the current default.
The numbers of the lines referring to the translations of the “desktop-defaults-set” are different, in the old one the translatable texts are between lines 31 to 39 and in your current one the translatable texts are between lines 106 to 114. Therefore, a new .pot, .po and .mo files need to be created. I tested with these files that are attached and the pt-BR translation worked. The .pot file has programmer comments for translators with English language texts from machine translation, I hope all texts are correct.
Thanks
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I made and tested the changes to Preferred Applications (desktop-defaults-set program) that I was suggesting, and made the changes for all of the Preferred Application Groups, not just file managers. I made no changes to any text, so no translation effort would be required. The program defaults to the current setting, and shows local ,desktop apps as well as system ones, sorted alphabetically, excluding the current default.
Os números das linhas realtivas as traduções do “desktop-defaults-set” são diferentes, no antigo os textos traduzíveis estão entre as linhas 31 a 39 e no seu atual os textos traduzíveis estão entre as linhas 106 a 114. Por isso, um novo arquivo .pot, .po e .mo precisam ser criados. Eu testei com estes arquivos que estão em anexo e funcionou a tradução pt-BR. O arquivo .pot possui comentários do programador para os tradutores com textos em idioma Inglês da tradução automática, eu espero que todos os textos estejam corretos.
I’m sorry, Marcelo. I have very little experience with translations. You are correct. I did change many line numbers, but did not change any of the text prompts a user would see.
@BobC – Translation is a pain also to me… as is using sed to process files.
I took a look at your script and found out the best place to use a sed command to remove the unwanted .desktop files from being listed… Here’s my example, to remove “gksu” from the Terminal options list:
alter you grep line to include the need sed command (I hope the forum software does not mangle this…:grep -i "TerminalEmulator" "$HOME/.local/share/desktop-defaults-set/categories.lst" | awk -F ':' '{print $1}' |sed '/gksu.desktop/d' > "$HOME/.local/share/desktop-defaults-set/TerminalEmulator.lst"The same can be adapted without much work, to all categories, removing all unwanted entries from the menus…
If you want, I can also send your way an example of how to add rox to the file manager’s list… (tip: echo rox’s .desktop file into the file manager list)
Your idea is so good I wonder no one ever thought about it before- it’s perfect to stop newbies from messing the essential apps, while still allowing everyone to have a simple and efficient GUI to selected those apps!
Edit: I tried changing my audio player using the script, and it does not perform the changes… I’ve not yet read all the script, to check out what’s missing…
Edit2: I realize now that your script, as it is, does not allow to change the audio player, also, changing the video player also sets the audio player to the same .desktop file (as the chosen video player)
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I will look at the issues tonight. I plan to work from Marcelo’s fixed version. “desktop-defaults-follow-fm.desktop” is also missing the FileManager Categories designation.
marcelocripe
Please look at the image “desktop-defaults-set-20220815 (2).png”, the “desktop-defaults-set” which has the pt-BR language translation on the right, has the “desktop-defaults-follow-fm.desktop”.
Por favor, olhe na imagem “desktop-defaults-set-20220815 (2).png”, o “desktop-defaults-set” que possui a tradução do idioma pt-BR que está a direita, possui o “desktop-defaults-follow-fm.desktop”.
I think I fixed nicely all of the problems. Thanks for the help, PPC and Marcelo 🙂
Marcelo, I’m sorry, but could you regenerate that translation data? Here is an updated version of the code.
I have also included revised versions of the .desktop files that will need to be changed in antiX to include the right Categories entry. As a temporary fix, if you copy the included .desktop files to ~/.local/share/applications they will appear in the selection pulldowns.
Let me know if anyone finds any problems, please…
In the second pic you see all of the .desktop entries that have both Audio and Player in their Categories= line. I didn’t find a good way to trim the list down further, but am open for suggestions.
iznit
“way to trim the list down further”
Can apply sed command to remove the line containing each known undesirable filepath.
Example for the “Audio Player” [[[ I only recognize 4 undesirable items, more may exist ]]]
before the echo line , just after line 122 of desktop-defults-setsed -i '@/usr/share/applications/antix/alsamixer.desktop@d' \ $HOME/.local/share/desktop-defaults-set/AudioPlayer.lst sed -i '@/usr/share/applications/antix/alsamixer-equalizer.desktop@d' \ $HOME/.local/share/desktop-defaults-set/AudioPlayer.lst sed -i '@/usr/share/applications/antix/Sound_Card.desktop@d' \ $HOME/.local/share/desktop-defaults-set/AudioPlayer.lst sed -i '@/usr/share/applications/antix/speaker-test.desktop@d' \ $HOME/.local/share/desktop-defaults-set/AudioPlayer.lstA single sed command can handle multiple patterns but would be an awkwardly long line in the script.
Here I chose to place @ characters as delimters; avoids needing to escape all the slash characters in the filepath strings.Yes, they could be hard coded, but it would be better to come up with a cleaner method, ie by looking for a value in Categories (maybe UTILITY or SETUP or SETTINGS) that could be used to exclude them. I would consider looking for a mime type, but the command line apps never seem to include those, and I don’t want to preclude people from choosing them because they are usually very lightweight.
Did you notice Midnight Commander (mc) comes up as one of the default file manager options? On older machines it might be nice to be able to easily set very lightweight defaults.
Marcelo, When you rebuild and replace the translation file, does that fix the translation problem shown in the pic you posted?
I added a feature to exclude from listing any application with a “NotDefault” Categories entry, and made the field label translation more normal for the translators.
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