setup alongside ubuntu

[Member stephenbbb]

Hello,

I would like to test antix on a laptop with a standalone ubuntu install, where /home is on a separate partition. what is the best way to do that and have grub2 give me the choice between ubuntu and antix.
Should antix be visibly faster than ubuntu? I have Mate 20.04 and came here, because it is much slower than 18.04.
thanks
S.

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Before installing, take a spare USB device, convert it into a live USB with antiX and use it for some time with persistence. It isn’t as easy to use as antiX Mate, but it is much much faster.

If your computer is a 64 bit computer, you can use this tool: https://github.com/MX-Linux/lum-qt-appimage/releases
and convert the USB into a Live USB with the antiX 19.3 ISO. Once you get into the live boot menu, try to set up a persistence file (for example, persist_root). This way you won’t risk your installation of Ubuntu and you can test antiX almost with the same native speed as installed (if you have USB 3.0 it will be almost the same as using antiX installed). You can use and save all changes in the USB as if it was installed, but much faster than normal installations on USB.

If you feel conformable with antiX, you can then decide to install it. During install, you can create a partition to install antiX, select “keep home partition” and NOT install grub (as you could use Ubuntu’s grub boot menu to boot into antiX).

Maybe someone else can advice, but for now I would advice using it live for a bit to get accustomed, and not risk any installation problems. antiX is one of the best operating systems to run on live USB. I have a Live USB I use as my main system on my laptop, and it works fantastic for me.

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You could also try MX Linux that should also be faster than Ubuntu on your system and is much more user friendly.

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[Member stephenbbb]

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I did the live usb and can get in antix, but struggle to connect to wifi. watched the video, which describes the problems. I keep getting the dbus error message no matter how many times I close connman. if I start connman directly from the app launcher I can get to the window where it asks for a passphrase. then it fails to connect. the first time it says “invalid key” then just reports failure. the key is correct. is it possible it cannot handle WPA2??
is there another way to connect wifi?
Cheers
S.

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Try Menu > Applications > antiX > antix wifi switch, and select Connman. This should fix first time wifi problems and let you connect.
If it still spits out an error, using the same program, switch to CENI and try connecting with a cli interface. For reasons we haven’t figured out yet, some access point names and/or passwords dont properly work with Connman.

PS: It can also be related to requiring a newer driver (newer kernel), but hopefully you can at least get connected using ceni. When you do, please provide the terminal output of
inxi -Fxz
so we can better advice small changes to improve performance (if possible).

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I had a machine with both Ubuntu and antiX installed. The boot screen will be from antiX if it is installed last, but will have the option to run Ubuntu on it. I put antiX on a separate 20 gb partition.

I have a wifi card on my Dell D620 that won’t work unless antiX is installed, so I just install it to the hard drive on that machine.

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can you provide the steps to connect with CENI? I tried going by common sense and I believe CENI thinks it is connected, but there is no internet.
Thank you.

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that is strange. my wifi works on Ubuntu prior to the install. in fact, the install asks to connect as it sees the wifi and connects to download new stuff during the install.

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To switch back and forth between connman and ceni please always use the”antiX wifi switch”

menu > applications > antiX > antiX wifi switch

It will make the neccesary configurations automatically for you.

Then try ceni again, respectively connman.

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Please, as soon as you have an internet connection, provide us the output of

inxi -zv7

Because then we can see if your hardware is known to be problematic or not.

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As ceni and connman work very differently, different services and files need to change when switching from one to the other, that is why it is recommended to do it with the antix wifi switch script. So follow caprea’s indications to launch the wifi switch script.

Just in case someone else is reading this, the steps to connect to a wireless access point using ceni are:
1. Select the network interface (WlanX, your wireless card). You can use the mouse and click on the option or use the arrow keys and the Enter key.
2. select to scan for access points.
3. select the access point you want to connect to
4. write the password in the corresponding box and click OK
5. ignore the next screen if you don’t need to configure anything else (like special DNS or the like) and click OK/Connect, and wait for it to properly connect.
Once you switch to ceni and connect to your Wireless access point, open a browser and check that you can now reach the internet.

About wifi problems on live USB. There was a bit of trouble before with wifi on the live USB, but it was fixed in the antiX 19.1 release, so this should no longer occur. Once you enable wifi using connman, it works on live USB every time. The only trouble is figuring out that Wifi is disabled by default and needs to be manually enabled, but after that it should work out of the box.

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[Member stephenbbb]

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buggy: after messing with both CENI and connman it suddenly worked from connman. not even sure what exactly helped, I tried connecting from both and switched a couple of times.
the browsing speed is better than ubuntu 20.04 and I will install. I am posting new questions in a new thread. this matter is now closed.
Thanks everybody.

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It is good it finally worked for you. cmst (the connman interface on antiX 19 full) is a bit difficult until the first time you get connected. Then it works very well (at least that is my experience).

When possible, you can post the terminal output
inxi -zv7
as caprea recommends, so we can recommend a different kernel (if necessary) or other things that may improve your system’s performance (if we can find any). You don’t need to worry, because the -z option filters out all sensitive information (like MAC addresses, wifi access points, chip IDs, etc.).

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Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet 
  vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI RTL810xE driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI 
  port: 2000 bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:8136 
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Foxconn 
  driver: ath9k v: kernel port: 2000 bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 168c:0032 
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
  IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic scope: global broadcast: <filter> 
  IP v6: <filter> type: dynamic mngtmpaddr scope: global 
  IP v6: <filter> type: dynamic mngtmpaddr scope: global 
  IP v6: <filter> scope: link 
  WAN IP: <filter> 

do you need all of the output? it is plenty.

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stephenbbb wrote:

Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Foxconn 
  driver: ath9k v: kernel port: 2000 bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 168c:0032

Based on https://linux-hardware.org/index.php?id=pci:168c-0032-11ad-6628, any kernel from 3.17 onwards will work well for your wifi chip. If the rest also works properly, you can continue with this kernel version. If at some time in the future you need a specific feature only available in newer kernels, you can upgrade to the newest one without much effort (using the terminal or the package installer) and if any problem arises, return to the previously working one. So for now nothing to worry about.

Regards.

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