'sid' and 'Testing' caveats

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  • #16322
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    fungalnetfungalnet

    Thank you again.
    Is there a way that this traffic jam can be avoided? If renaming your pkg to always supersede the debian one would that work, or is possible?

    #16665
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    fungalnetfungalnet

    Testing-eudev/libeudev
    It says that libeudev breaks libeudev of the same edition, so eudev can not be upgraded because of the break.
    ??

    #16678
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    anticapitalistaanticapitalista

    Testing-eudev/libeudev
    It says that libeudev breaks libeudev of the same edition, so eudev can not be upgraded because of the break.
    ??

    policykit-1 needs to be moved from our sid/nosystemd repo to testing/nosystemd

    Please be patient.

    Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

    antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

    #16682
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    fungalnetfungalnet

    No problem, I thought you would want us to report problems when we encounter them as soon as possible.
    So if I have policykit-1 from sid I can just dpkg -i from cache, right?

    #16689
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    anticapitalistaanticapitalista

    No problem, I thought you would want us to report problems when we encounter them as soon as possible.
    So if I have policykit-1 from sid I can just dpkg -i from cache, right?

    Yes, I do want reports as soon as you see them. Thanks.

    Not really advised to dpkg -i since you also need to make sure the new libs also get installed and ones you don’t want, don’t get installed.

    policykit-1

    pulseaudio debs also need moving to testing/nosystemd (we ship with a systemd-free libpulse, not the whole of systemd-free pulseaudio)

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    Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

    antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

    #16707
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    anticapitalistaanticapitalista

    Now in testing repo so it should be o to dist-upgrade.

    Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

    antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

    #16719
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    fungalnetfungalnet

    Ok, thank you again

    #16896
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    Avatariugamarian

    The only metapackage I install from testing after installing 4.19 Antix x64 kernel is firmware-misc-nonfree in nomodeset mode because video card RX480 does not allow X to start with the stable firmware. IMHO the firmware needs to be about the same age as the kernel because some calls do change (are added mostly). So to avoid further possible problems I put testing firmware on the older PC’s and laptops and 32 bit as well after upgrading the kernel. Then I comment out testing repo in apt list and do apt update.

    #32322
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    fungalnetfungalnet

    % sudo apt-get install gparted
    Reading package lists… Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information… Done
    The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
    libxvmc1
    Use ‘sudo apt autoremove’ to remove it.
    The following additional packages will be installed:
    gparted-common libargon2-1 libcryptsetup12 libgtkmm-3.0-1v5 libjson-c4 libpam-systemd
    libparted-fs-resize0 libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0 policykit-1 systemd
    systemd-sysv
    Suggested packages:
    dmraid kpartx reiser4progs reiserfsprogs udftools yelp libparted-dev systemd-container
    Recommended packages:
    libnss-systemd
    The following packages will be REMOVED:
    eudev prevent-systemd sysvinit-core xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-libinput
    xserver-xorg-video-intel
    The following NEW packages will be installed:
    gparted gparted-common libargon2-1 libcryptsetup12 libgtkmm-3.0-1v5 libjson-c4 libpam-systemd
    libparted-fs-resize0 libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0 policykit-1 systemd
    systemd-sysv
    0 upgraded, 13 newly installed, 6 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
    Need to get 7,955 kB/8,306 kB of archives.
    After this operation, 13.3 MB of additional disk space will be used.
    Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
    Abort.

    #32325
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    linuxdaddylinuxdaddy

    @fungalnet
    Are you on testing or sid … because on my sid build mate-de here from core I have gparted without systemd.
    Just did apt update and apt upgrade this evening.
    p.s. I only update this laptop about once a week though.
    @anticapitalista
    Earlier you wrote use
    apt dist-upgrade
    vs
    apt upgrade
    for sid is that the recommended as I’ve rarely
    ever used the “dist-upgrade” option.

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    Normal == 🙂
    depends on the surrounding crowd ?!

    #32368
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    fungalnetfungalnet

    Sid, sid, sid

    I have always used dist-upgrade, I also use apt-get install/upgr. because I like to keep the cache while apt removes it after installation. There must be a hook to configure this somewhere.

    I have no elogind/libelogind or consolekit installed, or libsystemd0, in my system, but something is acting weird. apt –fix-broken install doesn’t reveal anything broken.
    If I run apt-get dist-upgrade it doesn’t show anything to be removed as no longer needed, but trying to install gparted, except for all that havoc it is proposing, it shows pkgs that are no longer needed. I guess if you install systemd somethings will not be needed 🙂

    My apt diagnosing skills have gotten real rusty over the years, spoiled by the superfunctionality of pacman, ..

    I tried everything I have installed (openbox no dm) to see if I get any warnings/errors, everything works fine, but gparted was dropped.

    #32369
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    anticapitalistaanticapitalista

    As I have mentioned before, you need to install libpam-elogind-compat to avoid all the head aches – Debian is not arch.

    Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

    antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

    #32370
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    fungalnetfungalnet

    I believe moving from testing to sid and just using upgrade you are retaining the old testing structure of packages and just upgrading the versions of packages that are available to upgrade. I think it is always better to let the distribution (sid) decide what you should have and what you shouldn’t need.

    #32375
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    Avatarskidoo

    I like to keep the cache while apt removes it after installation. There must be a hook to configure this somewhere.

    somewhere == man apt.conf (see also: man apt-cache)
    ^—v
    APT::Clean-Installed false
    (this pref is true, implicitly, by default)

    …but to enforce that global declaration, you may need to consider (edit) the following
    /etc/apt/conf.d/01autoremove

    On a persistent liveboot system, in addition to adding the “Clean-Installed false” declaration, within the various /usr/local/share/excludes/* files you will need to remove//outcomment the line mentioning “/var/cache/apt/archives”.

    #32380
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    linuxdaddylinuxdaddy

    fungalnet wrote: I have no elogind/libelogind or consolekit installed, or libsystemd0, in my system

    I did install elogind when the installer asked me. Mine is a 19.1-core install changed to sid and
    upgraded no testing. But I have alot of other things installed on this rig too. Gparted does
    depend on policykit so without elogind or consolekit might be the reason for trying to pull
    systemd in on sid.

    Normal == 🙂
    depends on the surrounding crowd ?!

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