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ptoye
Just installed antiX-19 and I wanted to change the displayed date/time format to be more, well, English. Went to my ~/.icewm/Preferences file and edited line (I think) 47 to change the value of TimeFormat. Nothing happened. After a lot of experimentation I searched the file and found that there’s another setting of TimeFormat round about line 679(!) which isn’t commented out, and overrode my setting.
Can I suggest that you remove that line, or put a note at the head of the file to say that it’s there. Surely, the correct position for system defaults is the system-wide configuration directory, not the user’s.
- This topic was modified 3 years, 4 months ago by ptoye.
- This topic was modified 3 years, 4 months ago by ptoye.
Peter
anticapitalista
Line 11 of ~/.icewm/Preferences file says
### BobC 06/15/19 – all setting same as std antiX 19b1 except the following:
You may note that all the lines are commented and with no line spaces.
I guess it could/should be made clearer in the next point release.
Surely, the correct position for system defaults is the system-wide configuration directory, not the user’s.
But how the time format is shown is user choice isn’t it? antiX can also be used (and is used) in situations with multi-user accounts and each user may want something different.
Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.
antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.
Line 11 of ~/.icewm/Preferences file says
### BobC 06/15/19 – all setting same as std antiX 19b1 except the following:
You may note that all the lines are commented and with no line spaces.
I guess it could/should be made clearer in the next point release.
Surely, the correct position for system defaults is the system-wide configuration directory, not the user’s.
But how the time format is shown is user choice isn’t it? antiX can also be used (and is used) in situations with multi-user accounts and each user may want something different.
Two points here:
1) I agree that line 11 says that all lines are commented out. But line (I think) 679 isn’t commented out and should be. There’s certainly no point in setting the same property twice in the same file.
2) Of course time format is the user’s choice. But IMHO the default (whatever the system designer chooses) should be in the system config, not the user config. Then the user can override it if they want to.
- This reply was modified 3 years, 4 months ago by ptoye.
Peter
Brian Masinick
Line 11 of ~/.icewm/Preferences file says
### BobC 06/15/19 – all setting same as std antiX 19b1 except the following:
You may note that all the lines are commented and with no line spaces.
I guess it could/should be made clearer in the next point release.
Surely, the correct position for system defaults is the system-wide configuration directory, not the user’s.
But how the time format is shown is user choice isn’t it? antiX can also be used (and is used) in situations with multi-user accounts and each user may want something different.
Two points here:
1) I agree that line 11 says that all lines are commented out. But line (I think) 679 isn’t commented out and should be. There’s certainly no point in setting the same property twice in the same file.
2) Of course time format is the user’s choice. But IMHO the default (whatever the system designer chooses) should be in the system config, not the user config. Then the user can override it if they want to.
I agree that system configurations should be in system-controlled files in locations such as /etc or other appropriate system owned resources.
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Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
Having system resources and configurations makes it easier to have personal configurations that do not have any conflicts with anyone else, and the intent is clear.
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Brian Masinickanticapitalista
Ok, I’ll make the change for next point release.
Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.
antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.
Thanks. I agree with Brian.
I’ve been poking around and there seem to be three almost-copies of the icewm preferences file. There’s one in /etc/skel/.icewm and one in ~/.icewm. These are identical, and have two copies of the TimeFormat setting. The other is in /usr/share/icewm which is very different and has only one copy of TimeFormat: the second one, and it’s set differently.
Peter
anticapitalista
That’s because the ones in /etc/skel/.icewm and ~/.icewm include the antiX ‘defaults’. The files in /usr/share/icewm will get overwritten when/if icewm gets an upgrade.
Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.
antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.
BobC
The main purpose of my list of changes was to explain to anti, and if implemented, as a side benefit, anyone else, what I had changed down below so they wouldn’t need to spend time to analyze what I had done.
At this point it could be removed as its been running a while without major problems.
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