small? window managers.

[Member manyroads]

I came across this reddit thread which listed small(?) window managers. I thought, you might enjoy it.

If you have experience using the non-traditional antiX ‘models’, what do you think of them?

https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/4tfdzu/ram_usage_of_small_window_managers_a_comparison/

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Mark Rabideau - http://many-roads.com
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." H. L. Mencken
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Most of the mini-featured WMs are indistinguishable from each other
https://www.gilesorr.com/wm/table.html

Many of the barebones (menuless) interfaces are unusable for me b/c I would have difficulty would find it impossible to memorize dozens of keybinds. Yeah, eventual muscle memory… but my patience would wear thin before I got there.

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I notice that FLWM (Fast Light WM), isn’t mentioned, it uses FLTK, (Fast Light Tool Kit), & is used by Tiny Core Linux, it’s a very neat solution.

Linux (& BSD) since 1999

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To me, what is really important is that the window manager default windows onto the screen reasonably, and be controllable there, and when they are on the screen, at least be able to move and/or resize them into any of 9 positions/sizes based on the numeric keypad rose.

I know I can get IceWM to do that using WinArrange and WinGrid combined. Can any of the others do that?

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man fluxbox-keys
and press forward slash key to initiate a search: ArrangeWindows

In my forked version of fluxbox (can read additional details in the forum archives) antixlinux.com/forum-archive/fluxbox-v1-3-8-t6964.html
I attempted to raise awareness of this functionality by placing some “Arrange” commands in the as-shipped fluxbox menu

jog your memory:
we had discussed this back when you wanted to create a script for toggling a “cascade” arrangement…

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Hello Manyroads and Everyone
hello skidoo. great list in that link. Did you have a favorite there? twm is workable but leaves me wanting one of today’s with the more ease. great thing about the “2003 Review” is the XFCE v.4.0 notes say it is “Huge. …with all its accessories weighs in at about 14 Mb in memory, more than twice the memory use of any other window manager I tried.” Ratpoison and EvilWM 500kb.

[Member olsztyn]

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Thanks for sharing the comparison article. There is a Wikipedia comparison, which has different RAM requirements:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_window_managers#cite_note-1

At first PSS methodology against RSS (and USS) sounds right but upon reflection influenced by experience I think the author of the article too quickly adopted an argument against RSS for the benefit of PSS, favoring pure theory over reality. In all practicality it is RSS that should be used for comparison IMHO.
Argumentation that it is unfair to include memory requirements of libraries needed to run a WM, just because they could be shared with other programs is not fair in my eyes. Such comparison of WMs should be on their own merits and their own memory demand, not counting on other programs to run and absolve WM’s huge memory requirement.
Another paradox from Wikipedia (link above):
– KDE – 41 MB
– XFCE – 70 MB
– Fluxbox – 16 MB
– awesome – 9 MB

Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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Since not too long I’m using sway wm (a reimplementation of i3 wm to work with Wayland). And I noticed that it RAM usage which I measure with ps_mem varies depending on how much I have available. Sway starts with about about 40 MB. When I hit the RAM limit when building Firefox for example sway’s RAM usage decreases a few MB, the usage of Xwayland as well which is interesting.

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@eugen-b

Thanks for this will have a look at sway wm on the weekend..

[Member manyroads]

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I was just going to ask about swaywm. Search didn’t find this thread. 🙁 @eugen-b and @Koo would you mind starting a thread on sway and your experiences?

Pax vobiscum,
Mark Rabideau - http://many-roads.com
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." H. L. Mencken
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[Member manyroads]

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by way of offering someone else’s list. Here are some more wms (It’s yuge…):

https://www.gilesorr.com/wm/table.html

• This reply was modified 3 years, 11 months ago by manyroads.

Pax vobiscum,
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"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." H. L. Mencken
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@ manyroads

No worry will do I have download the source..

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