Some luxury feature after taskbar click

[Member marcelocripe]

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I dream of a useful feature for my wife born in mac and windoz universes.

A feature that might be useful to your wife is having all the shortcut icons in one place. With zzzFM, go to the /usr/share/applications folder, click on the Bookmark menu, New Bookmark. Then go to the /usr/share/applications/antix folder, click on the Bookmark menu, New Bookmark. Now she will be able to see all shortcut icons at a glance without having to place them all on the desktop..

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I dream of a useful feature for my wife born in mac and windoz universes.

Um recurso que pode ser útil para a sua esposa, ter todos os ícones de atalho em um só lugar. Com o zzzFM, acesse a pasta /usr/share/applications, clique no menu Marcador, Novo Marcador. Depois, acesse a pasta /usr/share/applications/antix, clique no menu Marcador, Novo Marcador. Agora ela poderá ver todos os ícones de atalho rapidamente sem ter que colocar todos eles na área de trabalho.

[Member ModdIt]

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Thanks Marcelo,

I dream that users will one day understand, icons on the desktop are a windoze and jobs curse.

Just add starters for frequently used applications to the toolbar, make it autohide, never
more need to move or close windows to get to a starter. I also recommend to assign
applications to specific desktops, having windows stacked over each other is a pain. I give
users 6 desktops.
Claws on 1, palemoon on 2, LO Calc starts to 3, LO Writer to 4. Claws automaticaly looks for
new mail on autostart at login.

Make the computer work for you instead of being a subservient slave :-).

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[Member ile]

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hello augusteBurin and everyone
We love it when the computer talks to us. Second comes discipline to not use so many messages. Third comes the want for notifications. First is wishing Mrs. augusteBurin get a new computer.

in a terminal start thunderbird, to check for error messages.
in a terminal start soffice, to check for error messages.
fix some error, if any.

Preferred Applications. Set email -e to thunderbird. Set text editor -te to libreoffice-writer.

xmessage and notify-send. Put that on everything.
xmessage shows as window in the taskbar.
libreoffice starts quite quickly.
In icewm toolbar and icewm menu use command desktop-defaults-run
and add the &xmessage or &notify-send. image sample clicking icewm menu 1Temail. [put &scrot on the end to get this capture]

prog "composerText" /usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/48x48/apps/text-editor.png thunderbird --compose
prog "Office" /usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/48x48/apps/text-editor.png desktop-defaults-run -te &xmessage -nearmouse -timeout 8 ebb "Owriter"
prog "1Temail" /usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/48x48/apps/text-editor.png desktop-defaults-run -e &xmessage -nearmouse -timeout 8 ebb "Thunderbird" &notify-send EMAIL LOADING

In App Select, Convenient Add Menu Item
to name new entries to be at the top of the list for popularity by alphabetic
for office of choice and thunderbird; use usual commands with addition of &xmessage or &notify-send. This menu is not limited to command desktop-defaults-run. image sample

switch your use [from writer] to a most familiar editor? quickest?
use <thunderbird –compose> to save txt to file. html in it will save html to file.
use <seamonkey -edit> to save html to file.
use <loweb> to save html or txt to file. option export pdf file.
<new computer>

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[Moderator BobC]

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ile,

What command (or part of the command) is putting the grey “email loading” box in the upper right corner?

Great post, BTW

[Member ile]

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hi BobC, notify-send, ala, ukui-notificaion-daemon , i think. (?)

[Moderator BobC]

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ile, Yes, I’ve heard of notify-send, but never have gotten it to put up a message like that. Is it part of the commands you gave, or something separate? If its something separate, could you provide a working example or a link to one, please?

Thanks again

prog "composerText" /usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/48x48/apps/text-editor.png thunderbird --compose
prog "Office" /usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/48x48/apps/text-editor.png desktop-defaults-run -te &xmessage -nearmouse -timeout 8 ebb "Owriter"
prog "1Temail" /usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/48x48/apps/text-editor.png desktop-defaults-run -e &xmessage -nearmouse -timeout 8 ebb "Thunderbird" &notify-send EMAIL LOADING

[Member ile]

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<xmessage> has window in taskbar is nice plus command line switches.

<notify-send> had success with either install xfce4-notifyd squared or install ukui-notification-daemon rounded. all defaults, no config done, five seconds timeout.
<notify-send ebb “and flow”>

[Member augusteBurin]

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Thank you all, a lot to study here!
But just to precise: This antiX 21 on a Dell Optiplex740 from around 2006 is very very responsive. Like a dream!
Except opening the three favorites: Firefox, Thunderbird and LibreOffice

[Moderator BobC]

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Hmmmmm, reminds me of Three Big Pigs, or maybe that was another story…

Old machines stay the same, but the software gets more bloated, bigger, and slower as time goes on.

[Member madibi]

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augusteBurin wrote:

Except opening the three favorites: Firefox, Thunderbird and LibreOffice

instead of firefox I’d rather recommend chromium: it is much lighter and runs like a charm on my 2007 Toshiba laptop (except for my home banking).
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[Member PPC]

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I’ve seen this thread, but I’ve been to busy to reply until now:
One nice way to have a “notification” that you clicked an application and it’s loading could be using yad (that does not require system notifications to be installed, thus saving resources on that). Example for a “Loading message” when you launch Firefox (please note that before each option are two minus signs, the forum usually messes that up):

firefox & yad --text=" Loading, Please Wait " --center --no-buttons --timeout=5 --timeout-indicator=top --undecorated --skip-taskbar

As advised, for very old hardware, software that uses less resources would be advisable (if the system is 64 bits ungoogled-chromium for Browsing) and also using antiX’s defaul e-mail client… There is no good “low resource options” for a fully featured and fully working, standards complient opensource word processor for Linux, other than Libreoffice Writer, and OnlyOffice (there are some other good options out there like FreeOffice, but they are not opensource or, in my humble opinion, mature enough).

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[Member augusteBurin]

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That would be nice!
In my /home/Myself/.icewm/toolbar I have this line:
prog "Web Browser" /usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/48x48/apps/web-browser.png desktop-defaults-run -b
I’m not quite sure how to change that with your example. (we are in the newbies area, aren’t we?)
Also I would prefer to put the yad close to the mouse pointer.

Thanks in advance
aB

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[Member oops]

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PPC wrote:

I’ve seen this thread, but I’ve been to busy to reply until now:
One nice way to have a “notification” that you clicked an application and it’s loading could be using yad (that does not require system notifications to be installed, thus saving resources on that). Example for a “Loading message” when you launch Firefox (please note that before each option are two minus signs, the forum usually messes that up):

firefox & yad --text=" Loading, Please Wait " --center --no-buttons --timeout=5 --timeout-indicator=top --undecorated --skip-taskbar
P.

… A simple and nice idea !

… An other solution via xdpyinfo calculation and sxiv with a animated throbber.gif

cd /home/$USER/
wget https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Spinning_wheel_throbber.gif

then:
sxiv -a -g 64x64+$(echo $(echo "$(xdpyinfo | grep "dimensions:" | awk -F " " '{print $2}' | awk -F "x" '{print $1}')/2-32" | bc))+$(echo $(echo "$(xdpyinfo | grep "dimensions:" | awk -F " " '{print $2}' | awk -F "x" '{print $2}')/2-32" | bc)) /home/$USER/Spinning_wheel_throbber.gif

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[Member PPC]

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augusteBurin wrote:

I’m not quite sure how to change that with your example. (we are in the newbies area, aren’t we?)
Also I would prefer to put the yad close to the mouse pointer.

Ok: 2 situations here:
1- The position of the notification: than one is easy to solve: instead of the flag “–center” use “–mouse” on the provided command
2- How to adapt my command to work with your toolbar entries? I’m not running icewm toolbar (I’m the creator and also oldest user of the FT10 antiX transformation pack, that provides a more modern toolbar/start menu to antiX) but try adding everything that my command has after the “&” (including the “&” to the end of the desired entry’s line. Example:

prog "Web Browser" /usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/48x48/apps/web-browser.png desktop-defaults-run -b & yad --text=" Loading, Please Wait " --mouse --no-buttons --timeout=5 --timeout-indicator=top --undecorated --skip-taskbar

Small How-to about editing IceWM’s toolbar entries- it’s easy, once you understand the logic of the config file (one line per icon/program displayed in the toolbar -ence the “prog” in the start on the line):

prog [Name_to_be_displayed] [full_path_to_the_icon_to_be_displayed_in_toolbar] [full_command_to_run_when_user_clicks_the_toolbar_icon]

In this particular case, when you click the icon you indirectly run default browser- explanation: “desktop-defaults-run” is a command that runs the identified default application indicated in the flag that follows it. In this particular case “-b” starts the default (internet) browser… the “-t” flag starts the default Terminal, and so on. You can set the default applications from antiX’s Control Centre > “The yellow star Icon” > Choosing the application you want from the available lists [Note: BobC redesigned that application to be extremely easy to use, even for the “noobiest noob” 🙂 , my thanks for that Bob]

You can freely change the “name_to_be_displayed” or the “icon”, without any harm to your system- just keep a backup of the original config file, to be on the safe side…

Edit: I forgot- you can also display an image/icon in yad, if you want to… just add, to the yad command, the flag “–image=” (followed by the full path to the image, or use some generic icon, like this: “–image=info”- you can use an hourglass icon, for example… or try adding an image as suggested above.
You can experiment with yad, even removing the text and displaying only the image, not displaying the timeout indicator bar, etc…

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[Member augusteBurin]

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Thank you all guys, you can if you want!
You’re great. I just didn’t guess that this command fires up firefox: desktop-defaults-run -b

I tag this [SOLVED], but I don’t know if I do it the right way.
aB

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