Space Fluxbox – Erratic desktop behavior

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    olsztyn

      This my post disappeared so now trying to re-construct. I apologize if due to possible re-appearance this post might be duplicated…

      I am using Space Fluxbox as preferred desktop. Radiant Medium scheme if matters…
      My observation is that on some laptops the two icons – File Manager and antiX FAQ sometimes appear and sometimes do not. This behavior has impact on initial memory used – 140M vs ~172M. Conky reports Space Fluxbox in any case.
      So since File Manager (SpaceFM) can always be started through antiX menu it seems that ideally these icons are redundant to reduce initial memory use.
      I vaguely remember there is a setting somewhere but not able to find it…
      Where is this controlled?

      Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
      https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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        a setting somewhere but not able to find it…

        When you logout from the desktop session, you will be returned to the SLiM display manager login screen.
        Maybe you have enabled autologin so haven’t seen that login screen for a while ~~ IOW, understandably, you might not recall that’s where you can choose a session type by pressing F1 (repeatedly, to cycle throught the list of available session types). Your previously chosen session type is remembered (no need to use F1 each time you visit the login screen).

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          sometimes appear and sometimes do not

          When something seems awry, view the file ~/.desktop-session/log
          to check whether it contains any error messages.

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            When you logout from the desktop session, you will be returned to the SLiM display manager login screen.
            Maybe you have enabled autologin so haven’t seen that login screen for a while ~~ IOW, understandably, you might not recall that’s where you can choose a session type by pressing F1 (repeatedly, to cycle throught the list of available session types). Your previously chosen session type is remembered (no need to use F1 each time you visit the login screen).

            Thanks skidoo…
            Understood. To bring back SpaceFM icons I believe I have been able to accomplish the same within the current session (without logging off) by selecting ‘other desktops’, followed by Space Fluxbox. Please let me know if this method is not equivalent…
            My point was however that I use Space Fluxbox. However the SpaceFM icons sometimes do not come up. About 50/50 on some laptops. Then memory use is reduced. Space Fluxbox is however the current desktop, correctly reported by Conky.
            So my question was how can I keep it this way – where is the control whether to display icons (load SpaceFM?)?
            The opportunity here that I see is that memory use can be minimized this way…

            Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
            https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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              “where is the control whether to display icons (load SpaceFM?)?”

              Offhand, aside from making a selection via the SLiM login screen, I can’t recall a “GUI way” to do it.
              The session namestring is read from
              ~/.desktop-session/default-desktop
              and you can achieve your goal by editing that file, so that it states “fluxbox” (noquotes)

              conky, and the other items autostarted at the beginning of a session are read from
              ~/.desktop-session/startup
              and
              ~/home/demo/.fluxbox/startup
              ( or, /.icewm/ or /.jwm/ depending on which window manager you have chosen)
              You can edit these to #comment lines of individual items you don’t wish to autostart and/or to add lines instructing autostart of additional items. Alternatively, you can choose session type “fluxbox-min”, which causes the startup file to be disregarded entirely.

              Throughout the session, you may issue the command “spacefm -d” to on-demand launch the spacefm “desktop (icon) management” component. AFAIK, there is no graceful, nor gui, way to “switch it off”… so I would “killall spacefm” or (more likely) launch the htop program and hunt for the “spacefm -d” process and F9 kill its process.

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                If you want space-fluxbox without having the spacefm desktop; then what you want really if fluxbox with spacefm as the default file manager. Logging out and back in after pressing f1 till fluxbox is shown or going to the menu under other desktops and selecting fluxbox will switch your desktop session to fluxbox and desktop-session should remember this via the file ~/.desktop-session/default-desktop as skidoo shows above. After this you can use the preferred applications utility to set spacefm as the default file manager vs following the desktop selection (the default selection). The name of the program is desktop-defaults-set.

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                  Thanks Dave.
                  So, assuming I understand in other words, if I select Desktop Fluxbox (which entails the basic crude file manager) then change default file manager in Preferred applications to Space-FM this should do the trick – no desktop icons and lower memory use…
                  However when I try to do this the default for Fluxbox file manager takes effect each time I select File Manager from the menu, not Space-FM. Am I missing something here?

                  Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
                  https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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                    Desktop Fluxbox (which entails the basic crude file manager)

                    that sounds inexact, and incorrect.

                    lookit:
                    On the login screen, press F1 to cycle between available types of sessions

                    fluxbox
                    rox-fluxbox
                    space-fluxbox
                    fluxbox-min (or, izzit “min-fluxbox”?)

                    The “min” variant both foregoes loading of any “desktopIconManager” and foregoes loading programs listed within the desktop-session/startup file

                    The plainjane “fluxbox” variant does abide launching any programs mentioned in the startup file, but foregoes loading any “desktopIconManager”

                    By choosing either of “space-” or “rox-“, you are requesting a session in which one or the other of these “desktopIconManager” programs shall be autostarted (in addition to any programs mentioned in the startup file).

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                    During the session you may, or may not, be pleased to discover that the autostarted “desktopIconManager” is the same program which is invoked as the “x-session-file-manager”. The “preferred applications utility” enables you to change this; you can assign an alternative “file manager”.

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