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marcelocripe
1) Created conflict and chaos here.
2) Insulted the founder and several of the prominent members here.
3) Violated the spirit and intent of this work.The worst of all is when we lose from this forum the good people who are participative and collaborative. When this happens, it means that bad people have succeeded with their bad intention which was to cause conflict and make good people feel offended, even causing good people to abandon the forum.
If the purpose of these people is to cause conflict and offend people from the GNU/Linux communities, know that other GNU/Linux communities suffer from this type of attacks from time to time, according to some colleagues from the Telegram and WhatsApp groups, a few months ago there were offenses in the PCLinux OS Brasil and antiX and MX Linux Brasil communities.
Sometimes I wonder if these people receive some kind of cash payment to join the community and after some time make offensive attacks on developers, programmers and forum participants.– – – – –
1) Created conflict and chaos here.
2) Insulted the founder and several of the prominent members here.
3) Violated the spirit and intent of this work.O pior de tudo, é quando perdemos deste fórum as pessoas boas que são participativas e colaboradoras. Quando isso acontece, significa que as pessoas ruins obtiveram sucesso com a sua má intensão que era causar conflito e fazer com que as pessoas boas se sentissem ofendidas, causando até o abandono do fórum pelas pessoas boas.
Se o objetivo destas pessoas é causar conflito e ofender as pessoas das comunidades GNU/Linux, saibam que outras comunidades GNU/Linux sofrem este tipo de ataques de tempos em tempos, segundo alguns colegas dos grupos de Telegram e WhatsApp, há alguns meses atrás ocorreram ofensas nas comunidades PCLinux OS Brasil e do antiX e MX Linux Brasil.
As vezes eu me pergunto se estas pessoas recebem algum tipo de pagamento em dinheiro para entrar na comunidade e depois de algum tempo fazer ataques ofencivos aos desenvolvedores, programadores e aos participantes do fórum.
Brian Masinick
I don’t know if anyone receives financial compensation for being overtly rude and disruptive, but given the relative success of the ‘free software movement’, it’s certainly possible that commercial companies that are floundering due to the success of free software could potentially do anything.
The mere thought that they’d stoop to a small distribution like ours, though it’s been painful at times, is a kind of ‘twisted’ complement to the ingenuity of the antiX ideas and implementation.
Regardless of what it is, I want to complement and thank anticapitalista and the overall antiX community for making this effort what it is. Let’s NOT allow the bullying and harassment to deter any of us from the good work and accomplishments.
Think of our Brazilian friends as an excellent example. They’re helping with translation and informing friends of a system that will work on second hand equipment. That’s proof that this work is still necessary. I don’t necessarily NEED it myself, I simply value it and appreciate the details and design.
Let’s continue to help those who benefit most from this project to be able to use the systems they have available to run antiX!
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christophe
Let’s continue to help those who benefit most from this project to be able to use the systems they have available to run antiX!
Exactly!
Mean people will be mean, by definition. But we can keep doing the right thing: helping others.
And we’ll pull the weeds out by the roots when they exposed themselves.
confirmed antiX frugaler, since 2019
marcelocripe
Think of our Brazilian friends as an excellent example. They’re helping with translation and informing friends of a system that will work on second hand equipment. That’s proof that this work is still necessary. I don’t necessarily NEED it myself, I simply value it and the details and design.
Mister, you are absolutely right, every new antiX program that is translated and later made available in antiX updates is a cause for celebration for the Brazilian antiX community. More and more, we have new Brazilians registering and at least participating with their post, this is a small demonstration of the growing number of Brazilians who are using antiX installed on their computers. antiX grows here in Brazil at a rapid pace.
Let’s continue to help those who benefit most from this project to be able to use the systems they have available to run antiX!
And that’s why we’re united here. I wish I had met or met you many years ago.
And we’ll put the weeds out by the roots when they exposed themselves.
You said it very well, Christophe.
Note: It’s a shame this thread lost its initial focus as I was really enjoying all of Conky’s customization options.
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Think of our Brazilian friends as an excellent example. They’re helping with translation and informing friends of a system that will work on second hand equipment. That’s proof that this work is still necessary. I don’t necessarily NEED it myself, I simply value it and appreciate the details and design.
O senhor tem toda razão, a cada novo programa do antiX que é traduzido e posteriormente é disponibilizado nas atualizações do antiX, é motivo de festa para a comunidade Brasileira do antiX. Cada vez mais, temos novos Brasileiros fazendo o cadastro e ao menos participando com a sua postagem, esta é uma demonstração pequena da quantidade crescente de Brasileiros que estão utilizando o antiX instalado nos seus computadores. O antiX cresce aqui no Brasil em passos largos.
Let’s continue to help those who benefit most from this project to be able to use the systems they have available to run antiX!
E é por isso que nós estamos unidos aqui. Eu queria ter conhecido ou encontrado vocês muitos anos atrás.
And we’ll put the weeds out by the roots when they exposed themselves.
Você disse muito bem, Christophe.
Nota: É uma pena que este tópico tenha perdido o seu foco incial, pois eu estava gostando muito de todas as opções de personalizações do Conky.
Brian Masinick
Note: It’s a shame this thread lost its initial focus as I was really enjoying all of Conky’s customization options.
We CAN return to the original topic, assuming there are more Conky customization options that people want to discuss.
We can also move the topic digression out of here if that would be helpful; I will take care of that.
what remains of this topic in the split will be the concerns expressed here.
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Brian Masinickstevesr0
re: closing the official antiX forum.
I have enjoyed using the forum. As a low level user, I have tried to not impose excessively on others and have tried to contribute anything I found that I thought might be useful to be reported.
Since anticapitalista is bearing major roles in administering the forum in addition to the major responsibility for maintenance of the distribution itself, I can imagine there are a number of reasons why he might feel the forum should be integrated as a subforum within MX.
I would like to know what his major considerations are and whether shifting responsibilities to volunteers for some tasks could be a third option to closing/shifting the forum to MX and maintaining the current status quo.
I would be willing to contribute time and money and “skills” (ha) within my limits.
I value his contributions highly – as well as those of the moderators who seem to continually work at maintaining the quality of the forum.
P.S. I suggest because of the importance of this question, that the topic might be modified to something like “keep antiX-Forum or move it to MX?” if this remains a consideration, so other forum users will be aware of this discussion.
stevesr0
- This reply was modified 11 months, 3 weeks ago by stevesr0.
Brian Masinick
@stevesr0: The purpose of this digression is to raise awareness of bullying by a few disrespectful and disruptive people, which has directly contributed to at least two highly respected members to leave entirely.
It was this, along with one or two disrespectful comments aimed at our founder, NOT the amount of work or something else.
As you mentioned there are many other distributions; that’s not the point here at all.
The reason many people are here is that antiX is among the few distributions that work on aging systems.
The reason the problem people are here is to disrupt what we are doing and the purpose of this topic is to rally the positive contributors to flesh out the unwanted individuals; moderators will remove them along with the offensive messages.
That’s what we’re about here.
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Brian Masinickchristophe
@stevesr0 – I see your point, and that is a generous offer. I’ve wondered about that angle to the issue, too.
It never hurts to put an offer out there.
Let each of us continue “working” the forum to the best of our ability, keeping it the best place for support that we can.
I like to think that our founder and the others are monitoring the forum, even if they do not post. (I’ve noticed that some long-time users have occasionally chimed-in after long absences, when they felt the need to do so.)The reason the problem people are here is to disrupt what we are doing and the purpose of this topic is to rally the positive contributors to flesh out the unwanted individuals; moderators will remove them along with the offensive messages.
That’s what we’re about here.
confirmed antiX frugaler, since 2019
olsztyn
The purpose of this digression is to raise awareness of bullying by a few disrespectful and disruptive people, which has directly contributed to at least two highly respected members to leave entirely.
Not only they were highly respected members but also tireless contributors who were key to antiX 21 release (In particular Xecure comes to my mind here. Particularly I am grateful to him for making antiX Runit what is it is now – antiX 21 Perfect, as well as his tireless and patient support of users). Thank you Brian…
Possibility of closing antiX forum contemplated by anticapitalista is a serious concern. I hope it will not end up this way. For the sake of antiX.I just want to highlight that antiX 21 is (IMHO) the best distro I know, not only for old but for any computer. Closing antiX forum would not be good for the future of antiX.
Anticapitalista may not be in his twenties anymore and his patience and strength to continually pursue this antiX’ ideology may not be the same as used to be. However this accomplishment must not be forgotten or fade due to less visibility by not having a dedicated forum.
It is vision and strategy of anticapitalista that made antiX the most efficient and dexterous distro out there, sticking to what is important and not falling to temptation of bloat and distraction… Thank you anticapitalista!- This reply was modified 11 months, 3 weeks ago by olsztyn.
Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_ParametersBrian Masinick
@olsztyn: Clearly I agree with you! I saw from the very beginning that this distribution carved out a perfect niche, even among the others that were doing similar things.
The number of distributions remaining in this space has dwindled considerably. In fact one of the reasons that I got rid of a few of my previous workhorse systems was that only a couple of distributions still ran on them, and I didn’t need additional systems for testing the remaining systems. Of course I’ve kept a few old models to devote to antiX testing!I was out of town when Xecure was being “bothered” and I was also attending to family matters when linuxdaddy was verbally abused. That’s one of the reasons I was “asking for help” so that even when I’m away we have a few people “guarding” the administration and moderation of the forum, and immediately getting rid of any further abuse.
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