SSD performance tuning antiX utilities

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      I have a fresh installation on an SSD. “speed: 1.5 Gb/s” for the SSD seems to be the same speed as for the ide 160Gb 5400 rpm drive that it replaced. Is that to be expected?

      Drives: Local Storage: total: 111.79 GiB used: 4.21 GiB (3.8%)
      SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
      ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: A-Data model: SU655 size: 111.79 GiB block-size:
      physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 1.5 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 831a
      scheme: MBR

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      EeePC, ASUSTek 1000HE - Atom N280, 1667 MHz, 32 bit - RAM 992.2 MiB
      Kernel: 4.9.0-279-antix.1-486-smp i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1
      Desktop: IceWM 2.9.3 & zzzfm
      Distro: antiX-21_386-full Grup Yorum 31 October 2021

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        Yours is just not very fast is all. Mine is 4 years old and 6.0 Gb/s

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          I think it won’t make much difference on that machine. sata was new then and the Intel 945
          chip set won’t be fast enough for new drives … 1-3gb/s at most.

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            BobC: Is that the speed on your EeePC?

            EeePC, ASUSTek 1000HE - Atom N280, 1667 MHz, 32 bit - RAM 992.2 MiB
            Kernel: 4.9.0-279-antix.1-486-smp i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1
            Desktop: IceWM 2.9.3 & zzzfm
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              ALL of my computers except Pentium II, III and IV are fitted with 6.0 Gb/sec SSDs as replacements for the original hard drives. I bought them all used except one, so it didn’t cost anymore.

              I agree with linuxdaddy that if the computer doesn’t have a controller capable of keeping up, it doesn’t matter.

              I wouldn’t worry about it unless I was buying another anyway.

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                There is no magic in the OS that can make a slow SSD become a fast one, please give the full spec of your SSD, that should include Firmware version.
                In any case you have a slow drive. Maximum buffered read speed 486 MB/s Maximum read speed 467 MB/s That is spec not speculation.

                Please also remember that write speeds drop, sometimes to a snail pace when the controller cache of the SSD is full
                and writing is at internal drive speed. For small money patriot drives are some of the best.
                Hard Drive and Graphics Performance

                With a copy folder of mixed media, the Eee PC 1000HE gave 14.6 MBps, that is an as delivered test of performance by a respected PC magazine.

                ADATA SU655 with Firmware Q0831C0 Information
                Common characteristics
                Manufacturer ADATA
                Model ADATA SU655
                Capacity 447.1 GB
                Interface SATA
                SATA version 3.2
                Form-factor 2.5″
                Firmware Q0831C0
                Alternative firmwares 7
                Firmware upgrade supported
                SSD controller Silicon Motion
                ATA version ACS-2
                Advanced Format not supported
                Units tested 4
                Times tested 7
                Performance
                Maximum interface speed 600 MB/s
                Maximum buffered read speed 486 MB/s
                Maximum read speed 467 MB/s
                Minimum average access time 0.7 msec
                Volatile write cache supported
                Read look-ahead supported
                Command Queuing Optimization (NCQ) supported
                Advanced Power Management (APM) supported
                Device Sleep (DevSleep) supported
                Acoustic Management (AAM) not supported
                TRIM supported

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                  Yes, basically the time to look at specs and performance options is before you buy. My guess is that your SSD is still faster than the hard drive because its search time is minimal.

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                    BobC is right, in any case performance is a mix of factors and not a simple subject.,
                    On my EEPC which is slower than the HE version, it became much more usable after replacing the lame HDD and upping memory to max.
                    Finding specific controller throughput performance data is only possible with a board number and revision, if available at all.
                    even with that memory performance may be less than the controller capability so overall slower than theory.

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                      Drives: Local Storage: total: 111.79 GiB used: 4.21 GiB (3.8%)
                      SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
                      ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: A-Data model: SU655 size: 111.79 GiB block-size:
                      physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 1.5 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 831a
                      scheme: MBR

                      Thanks for all the responses. 🙂

                      With the SSD start time to the login is less than half that of the 160Gb HDD – ~25 seconds. 😀 Firefox seems faster overall.

                      EeePC, ASUSTek 1000HE - Atom N280, 1667 MHz, 32 bit - RAM 992.2 MiB
                      Kernel: 4.9.0-279-antix.1-486-smp i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1
                      Desktop: IceWM 2.9.3 & zzzfm
                      Distro: antiX-21_386-full Grup Yorum 31 October 2021

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                        That’s why it is so important that the programs and workflows are as efficient as possible. A slower machine can still be very productive if the software isn’t wasteful of CPU and memory, and the workflow is well suited to the tasks you do often.

                        Go back and look at some of the slick setups Moddit runs, for example, where he has analyzed what programs get used all the time, and starts those up in predetermined windows at boot, and puts everything else that gets used on the toolbar so they fire up with one click of the mouse. Now that’s efficient!

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                          Firefox was easy to configure for better performance with a balance of lower memory usage and faster cache access.

                          From the typical heavy content loads of front pages of web sites it seems efficient to open pages therein in a new tab. Returning to the top level page with a Ctrl-w skips reloading it.

                          EeePC, ASUSTek 1000HE - Atom N280, 1667 MHz, 32 bit - RAM 992.2 MiB
                          Kernel: 4.9.0-279-antix.1-486-smp i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1
                          Desktop: IceWM 2.9.3 & zzzfm
                          Distro: antiX-21_386-full Grup Yorum 31 October 2021

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                            … Speed 1.5 Gbps is the BUS limitation, not the SSD limitation.
                            ex for my computeur:

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                              Firefox seems faster overall.

                              Now please compare with LibreWolf or decrapify LTS fox yourself, meaning take out what is not needed to browse the internet.
                              Or leaving what you really need to use zoom etc. That is removing way more surveillence technology than most users think.

                              For watching youtube create a bash alias yt=’ytfzf’ tap in yt to search, slightly heavier but still far more efficient than
                              a browser is SM Tube.

                              For zoom etc setup a separate user, we are using it on LTS for students who must use the application for study at home. University requirement. You must have widevine plugin installed to enable usage, widevine is highly criticised as it enables features the user
                              may not like. That is putting it mildly.
                              To keep bounds safer it is better to block read and write from other users, better to ensure your second user is not in
                              sudo group as in any case unneeded priveleges should be avoided..

                              As BobC recommends, much to be found in the forum. He modestly points to me, I point back, much of the efficiency on local setup was
                              acheived with his help and skills.

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                                oops Can you upload that command line? I tried to copy and paste the rendition in the message: thus Syntax error: “(” unexpected (expecting “done”)

                                EeePC, ASUSTek 1000HE - Atom N280, 1667 MHz, 32 bit - RAM 992.2 MiB
                                Kernel: 4.9.0-279-antix.1-486-smp i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1
                                Desktop: IceWM 2.9.3 & zzzfm
                                Distro: antiX-21_386-full Grup Yorum 31 October 2021

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                                  oops re: command in txt.txt

                                  Link /sys/class/ata_link/link1 Speed1.5 Gbps
                                  Device2K1320031979 P180831aADATA SU655 Aa@i

                                  EeePC, ASUSTek 1000HE - Atom N280, 1667 MHz, 32 bit - RAM 992.2 MiB
                                  Kernel: 4.9.0-279-antix.1-486-smp i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1
                                  Desktop: IceWM 2.9.3 & zzzfm
                                  Distro: antiX-21_386-full Grup Yorum 31 October 2021

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