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anticapitalista
Masinick is right in many of the details.
antiX’s first ‘official’ public release (antiX-6.5 – code name Spartacus) was on 9 July 2007 and it was supported by the Mepis developer, Warren Woodford.
An earlier release was made available to users via the Mepis forums before this one but under the name Flepis. (Fluxbox Mepis – based on Mepis 3.4.3, but using Debian testing repos rather than Debian stable).
See this link for some information about our releases.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AntiX
Some more information is in this old thread.
https://antixlinux.com/forum-archive/history-of-antix-t2412.html
Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.
antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.
marcelocripe
Anticapitalist,
After reading and learning a little about the story, I ask you, professor, do not let antiX have the same fate as the distributions that influenced it.
According to DistroWatch these distributions have been discontinued:
sidux
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=aptosidTinyMe
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=TinyMeThe other Puppy, Absolute and Slitaz distributions follow the journey …
Free Linux distribution, technical support (or support, or help, whatever you want to call it …) by itself is already social, it is already the opposite of capital and profit.
Long live antiX!
Thank you!
marcelocripe
Original text in Brazilian Portuguese, translated into English by Google translator.
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Anticapitalista,
Após ler e conhecer um pouco da história, eu peço a você, professor, não deixe o antiX ter o mesmo destino das distribuições que o influenciaram.
Segundo o DistroWatch estas distribuições foram descontinuadas:
sidux
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=aptosidTinyMe
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=TinyMeAs outras distribuições Puppy, Absolute e Slitaz seguem a jornada …
Distribuição Linux gratuita, suporte técnico (ou apoio, ou ajuda, como queiram chamar …) por si só já é social, já é o oposto ao capital e ao lucro.
Vida longa ao antiX!
Muito Obrigado!
marcelocripe
Texto original em idioma português do Brasil, traduzido para o inglês por Google tradutor.
- This reply was modified 2 years, 9 months ago by marcelocripe.
marcelocripe
Hello Anti-capitalist, how are you?
There is some possibility that you can make antiX 19.2 available in a single ISO image containing antiX-19.2_x64-full and antiX-19.2_x32-full, where in the boot menu of this ISO image it was possible to select which version the user wants to start, the 32-bit version or 64-bit version.
Both images together have about 2.32 GB, thus allowing, in a single DVD or pendrive media to be able to transport and still install antiX 19.2 32 or 64 bits, it would be the ISO image of antiX “all in one”.
This makes it easier for those who need to install multiple times and on different versions of antiX. This is my case … As far as I am concerned, antiX will gain more and more users throughout Brazil.
Another suggestion would be the possibility of creating an area in this forum for Portuguese speakers.
As much as the online translators seem to be playing the role of interpreters relatively well, we cannot easily find Portuguese content for antiX on the internet, which makes it more difficult for the end user to find their question in the forum or on the online search engine. What has been helping, a little, are my posts in both languages, the original in Portuguese plus the translation into English.
I hope I could have collaborated with these suggestions …
marcelocripe
Original text in Brazilian Portuguese, translated into English by Google translator.
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Olá Anticapitalista, tudo bem com você?
Existe alguma possibilidade de você disponibilizar o antiX 19.2 em uma única imagem ISO contendo o antiX-19.2_x64-full e o antiX-19.2_x32-full, onde no menu de inicialização desta imagem ISO fosse possível selecionar qual versão o usuário deseja iniciar, a versão 32 bits ou a versão 64 bits.
Ambas as imagens somadas possuem cerca de 2,32 GB, permitindo assim, em uma única mídia de DVD ou pendrive poder transportar e ainda instalar o antiX 19.2 32 ou 64 bits, seria a imagem ISO do antiX “tudo em um”.
Isso facilita para quem precisa instalar várias vezes e em versões diferentes do antiX. Este é o meu caso … No que depender mim o antiX ganhará mais e mais usuários pelo Brasil.
Outra sugestão, seria a possibilidade da criação neste fórum de uma área para os falantes de língua Portuguesa.
Por mais que os tradutores online parecem estar cumprindo relativamente bem o papel de interpretes, nós não conseguimos encontrar com facilidade conteúdo em língua Portuguesa para o antiX na internet, o que torna mais difícil para o usuário final conseguir encontrar nas buscas a sua dúvida no fórum ou no buscador online. O que vem ajudando, um pouco, são as minhas postagens em ambos os idiomas, o original em língua Portuguesa acrescido com a tradução para a língua Inglesa.
Espero poder ter colaborado com mais estas sugestões …
marcelocripe
Texto original em idioma português do Brasil, traduzido para o inglês por Google tradutor.
PPC
Olá, Marcelo, você pode tentar fazer isso (criar um dvd-rom multi boot) usando diversas aplicações. https://www.lakora.us/multicd/ ou https://www.sarducd.it/downloads . Mais detalhes em https://www.linuxbabe.com/apps/create-multiboot-usb-linux-windows-iso
Hi, Marcelo, you can try doing that (create a multi boot dvd-rom) using several programs. https://www.lakora.us/multicd/ or https://www.sarducd.it/downloads . More details over at https://www.linuxbabe.com/apps/create-multiboot-usb-linux-windows-iso
P.
Brian Masinick
I have had good results with this:
Ventoy
Search domain: https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html
Ventoy is an open source tool to create bootable USB drive for ISO files. With ventoy, you don’t need to format the disk again and again, you just need to copy the iso file to the USB drive and boot it.
Ventoy: create bootable USB media that uses ISO images …
Search domain https://www.ghacks.net/2020/04/20/ventoy-create-bootable-usb-media-that-uses-iso-images/
Ventoy is a new software application for Linux and Windows that does things a bit differently. Instead of extracting an ISO image, it allows you to place the actual ISO images on the USB device so that you may boot from them directly. The program supports multiple ISO images that you can place on a USB device and uses GRUB as the boot manager.--
Brian Masinickmarcelocripe
PPC and Brian,
Thanks for the suggestions, I’ll try them out.
The Sardu I tested it with only one of the ISOs on some computers the antiX menu was loaded and on others it was not loaded and still complained about the lack of a file, unfortunately I have not noted the error. Some bootable pendrive creation tools complain about the compression type of the antiX ISOs. On some computers, the pendrive with antiX only worked if I prepared it with balenaEtcher, the reason, unfortunately, I don’t know what it is.
From the list on the website https://www.linuxbabe.com/apps/create-multiboot-usb-linux-windows-iso, the ones I don’t know are MultiSystem and MultiBootUSB, the others presented some type of error or failure in some computers.
SARDU MultiBoot USB and DVD Creator
MultiBootUSB
MultiSystem
YUMI (Your Universal MultBoot Installer)
WinSetupFromUSBI need to test with Ventoy, MultiSystem and MultiBootUSB.
Thank you.
marcelocripe
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PPC e Brian,
Obrigado pelas sugestões, vou testá-las.
O Sardu eu o testei com apenas uma das ISOs em alguns computadores o menu do antiX era carregado e em outros não era carregado e ainda reclamava da falta de um arquivo, infelizmente eu não tenho anotado o erro. Algumas ferramentas de criação de pendrive inicializável reclamam do tipo de compactação das ISOs do antiX. Em alguns computadores, o pendrive com o antiX só funcionava se eu o prepara-se com o balenaEtcher, o motivo, infelizmente, eu não sei qual é.
Da lista do site https://www.linuxbabe.com/apps/create-multiboot-usb-linux-windows-iso, os que eu não conheço são o MultiSystem e o MultiBootUSB, os demais apresentaram algum tipo de erro ou falha em alguns computadores.
SARDU MultiBoot USB and DVD Creator
MultiBootUSB
MultiSystem
YUMI (Your Universal MultBoot Installer)
WinSetupFromUSBPreciso testar com o Ventoy, MultiSystem e o MultiBootUSB.
Obrigado.
marcelocripe
Brian Masinick
I realize that my suggestion uses USB rather than DVD media because you did mention pen drives (presumably USB pen drives).
I have at least 5-6 images already installed with Ventoy and reports are that with sufficient capacity it will support 100 images.
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Brian Masinick
Dave
It has been a while since I have tried… But I think you can mount the 2 iso files. Copy the first to a working directory, then change the initrd.gz, linuxfs, and vmlinuz files to reflect the version. (Example: initrd-19-amd64.gz) Then modify the various .cfg files in /boot/ (grub/grub.cfg, isolinux/isolinux.cfg, syslinux/syslinux.cfg) to reflect these changes. After doing so you can copy the antiX directory for the next version into the working directory followed by editing the config files and basically duplicate the contents and modify the duplicated lines to point to that version. Then generate your own iso image using that working directory as the source for the iso contents. There are a number of tools make / pack the contents back into an iso (mkisofs, genisoimage, dd, etc). For example: https://linuxpitstop.com/edit-iso-files-using-mkisofs-in-linux/
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ex_Koo
@masinick
How did you install Ventoy?I have had good results with this:
Ventoy@masinick
Don’t worry it’s all good have already made one with 3 iso’s looks pretty good. Thanks for the link.
Brian Masinick
Dzhigit
I just want to ask a question. Why does antiX still exist as a separate distribution from MX GNU/Linux? I’m not a developer, so I don’t fully understand, but wouldn’t it be easier to merge the distributions into one, and just provide separate ISO downloads for midweight DE and lightweight WM versions of what is already almost the same distro? I have been finding a lot of issues with antiX packaging, for example, I was about to start a new thread about /usr/local/bin/android-device-usb-connect.sh. It’s a script that depends on the package jmtpfs. The script is included in the package antix-goodies, but jmtpfs is not list as a dependency, recommended package, or even a suggested package. At least it shows an easy to understand error when launched from terminal, but it doesn’t show anything when launched as a graphical application. I feel that if the fragmentation was reduced by completing the merger between MEPIS and antiX into MX, these problems would be easier to find and fix, and the repo quality would improve.
There is also very little documentation for antiX about doing things like building up from a net or core ISO, installing a desktop environment, or just dealing with common issues. With a bigger distribution, making a proper wiki could require less work due to a greater number of users and contributors. I can help with Russian translation and some original writing.
Brian Masinick
@Dzhigit: I can appreciate your concern about the two distributions.
Actually there is quite a bit of work that is regularly shared.
1. The distribution leaders package both distributions and their variations.
2. Many components, tools and applications are shared.
3. Many people do things with both distributions, including me. There is nothing to save, things are frequently shared.
Regarding things that you are not sure about, have you watched any of the videos made by Dolphin Oracle? They may answer many questions. We have recently had in depth articles and discussions in this forum about how to install and configure the system “just right”.
Feel free to ask questions. We usually answer. We do greatly appreciate those who do some reading and learning, then ask intelligent questions about anything they either missed or had difficulty understanding.
With that said, please check out the videos by Dolphin Oracle and the available documentation, including helpful forum messages.
Then let us know what is unclear with the information provided.
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Brian MasinickAnonymous
I have been finding a lot of issues with antiX packaging, for example, I was about to start a new thread about /usr/local/bin/android-device-usb-connect.sh. It’s a script that depends on the package jmtpfs.
Yep, that detail was overlooked when the android connect script was added to the package recently.
Marking as “Recommends:” would be ineffectual per the default apt preferences, so I forked the pkg and added Depends:jmtpfs and sent anticapitalista a merge request:
https://gitlab.com/antiX-Linux/antix-goodies/-/merge_requests/1I have been finding a lot of issues with antiX packaging, for example
What other “for examples”?
(unnoticed hiccups remain unfixed until someone reports ’em)merger [..] and the repo quality would improve.
Naw, I don’t expect that a shared infrastructure (nor “more chefs handling the soup”) would result in a superior result.
There is also very little documentation for antiX about doing things like building up from a net or core ISO, installing a desktop environment, or just dealing with common issues. With a bigger distribution, making a proper wiki could require less work due to a greater number of users and contributors.
I agree that we all would benefit from having more/better/newer antiX docs and, via forum search, you can read where we recently discussed “wiki”. Anyhow, MX wiki is wiki in name only ~~ users cannot freely contribute. A single dude stands as its self-designated gatekeeper; all new contribs from “non-staffers” must be submitted to him (pdf format? html format +screenshots?) and he creates the wiki pages, adds keywords, and slots them into the wiki TOC.
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