Suggestions to the Devs about antiX 21

[Member PPC]

I’m been testing antix 21 beta2 runit version in a Virtual Machine, and I’ve seeing just about any bug/problem that was detected solved almost instantly, but I have some small suggestions, mainly on usability:

1- Include a GUI .deb package installer- I made a tiny script that works in a similar fashion to antiX-updater- that reduces to a minimum the contact between the user and the terminal- “debinstaller”, available in the antiX-contribs git… any other light.deb package installer will do
2- Preconfigure keyboard shortcuts to copy and paste in roxterm
3- Add the toolbar icon manager to the icewm toolbar- so newbies know, right from the start that they can add/remove icons, and old time users waste less time adding/removing icons. If an advanced user does not like the icon there, it’s an easy edit, to remove it
4- add more wallpapers than those that come in the beta- they are great, yes, but, in my opinion there should be at least one for every slimski theme (I guess they are missing because the final version is not out yet)
5- Are you interested in having a small script, that runs after installation/on first boot, that offers to download the language packages for LibreOffice and Firefox, or even have that option available in the control center (it can check if libreoffice, firefox-esr, firefox or thunderbird are installed and offer to download the relevant packages)- if there’s interest, I can try to work on such script, on my free time… this is nor exclusive to antiX (I read that Manjaro users have the same problem) but bugs a bit not English speaking users…
6- Include a trash can / recycle bin- with a few tweaks spacefm/zzzfm can be made to use one, no extra packages or extensions needed- or you can include the “trash-cli” package out of the box or, at least make it available on the Package Installer
7- There’s a great deal of care in localizing applications used in antiX, I know… But one very important one is not localized- the connmann GUI… I saw, I’m not sure if in the official connmann GUI git, that it had localization files in pt- it would be great if a version with localization support was included in antiX – if needed, I could try writing a yad script that listed all available wi-fi networks and allowed the user to select one [and show a “Please your wi-fi password” window, created the config file] and connect to it. This script can be localized easily…
8- I’ve been playing with the idea of an enhancement to T.I.M.- that would allow the user to add to the toolbar any currently running application- it’s not exactly drag and drop, but some users may (or not) find this useful. Any input on this?

Even without applying any of this suggestions, antiX 21 is already the best antiX version to date, so my thanks to the dev team!

P.

[Member calciumsodium]

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PPC wrote:

Preconfigure keyboard shortcuts to copy and paste in roxterm

This would be a great feature to have. Thanks for the suggestion.

[Forum Admin Dave]

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#2 Control + Shift + [c,v] Does not work?

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[Member calciumsodium]

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Another suggestion:
Perhaps remove the file manager as root icon in the toolbar. Could be very dangerous if a person does not what they are doing.

[Member calciumsodium]

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Dave wrote:

#2 Control + Shift + [c,v] Does not work?

I must have misread @PPC suggestion #2. I thought: Preconfigure keyboard shortcuts to copy and paste in rox-filer.

You can do: Control + Shift + [c,v] in roxterm.

As I understand it, in rox-filer, if one highlights more than one item, to copy it using keyboard Ctrl + C will not let you do it. It says:

You cannot do this to more than one item at a time

What I thought PPC was suggesting was, for example, if a rox-filer window had five items and I highlight 3 of them and copy them using a keyboard shortcut. And in another rox-filer window, I can paste them using another keyboard shortcut.

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[Member PPC]

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calciumsodium wrote:

Another suggestion:
Perhaps remove the file manager as root icon in the toolbar. Could be very dangerous if a person does not what they are doing.

I think Xecure already took care of that! 🙂

And strangely enough, keyboard shortcuts – copy and paste does not work on my roxterm… I’ll check it out with more detail…

P.

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psst:
calciumsodium mentioning roxFILER
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PPC mentioning roxterm

Did I read within the betatesting topic that antiX21 may need to abandon roxterm, in favor of some alternative terminal emulator, due to problems… or was the newly-discovered quirkiness related to the urxvtzqp terminal emulator ?

[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

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roxterm-gtk2 (old) version has issues with htop for example. Try navigating in htop via roxterm, you’ll soon see the problem.
roxterm next generation (3.11) fixes this.
But it uses almost double the RAM of roxterm 2.9 series in my tests.
So we either dump old roxterm for its heavy grandchild or use something else.

@PPC I like number 5 the most.

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[Member Xecure]

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anticapitalista wrote:

roxterm-gtk2 (old) version has issues with htop for example. Try navigating in htop via roxterm, you’ll soon see the problem.
roxterm next generation (3.11) fixes this.
But it uses almost double the RAM of roxterm 2.9 series in my tests.
So we either dump old roxterm for its heavy grandchild or use something else.

As it seems most people don’t use the mouse on the terminal (I was the only one who ever “protested” about this in the beta testing), and roxterm-gtk3 more or less works with mouse input, then we could keep roxterm for this release. I also don’t know much about other alternative light-weight terminal emulators, so I am happy with roxterm.

Dave wrote:

#2 Control + Shift + [c,v] Does not work?

Control+Shift+C for copying in the terminal is my preferred method (and is what works right now with roxterm).
If I want to stop the running process launched in the terminal I use Control+C, so I don’t want to get confused here.

PPC wrote:

4- add more wallpapers than those that come in the beta-

I thought that the final wallpapers would come in the RC, so I wasn’t that worried for it. Many many images were proposed, and it will take anticapitalista an afternoon to check them out and select them, so I understand leaving this for last.

PPC wrote:

7- There’s a great deal of care in localizing applications used in antiX, I know… But one very important one is not localized- the connmann GUI

Is this cmst? Could you provide a link? If we can test those .mo files and see if they work with the current antiX-21 cmst version, they could be added during the build-iso process (there is no need to touch the cmst package, which may update at any point by Debian and remove those translations without warning).

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[Forum Admin SamK]

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PPC wrote:

5- Are you interested in having a small script, that runs after installation/on first boot, that offers to download the language packages for LibreOffice and Firefox, or even have that option available in the control center (it can check if libreoffice, firefox-esr, firefox or thunderbird are installed and offer to download the relevant packages)…

anticapitalista wrote:

@PPC I like number 5 the most.

The obvious, logical location for items such as this is within the Control Centre→Package Installer

[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

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The obvious, logical location for items such as this is within the Control Centre→Package Installer

True. And that is still the best option.
However, an extra aid to ‘prompt’ users to localise apps such as libreoffice, firefox etc is of value.

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[Member ModdIt]

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an extra aid to ‘prompt’ users to localise apps such as libreoffice, firefox etc is of value.

Definitely agree

Would it be possible to have a prompt added to remaster tool that the Live USB maker can clone a running live system,
at present that power is not immediately obvious to users, to my shame I was included.

[Member Xecure]

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Moddit, have you tested this option in locale-antix (the option “Localize Packages”?

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[Member ModdIt]

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Hi xecure,
never even seen locale-antix (the option “Localize Packages”?

I searched through the menus, checked for hidden entrys, is this in the boot options ?
Can setup a fresh stick tomorrow as it may be in something I removed when trimming menu long ago.

On LO I just install language pack plus Language tool which Needs Oracle Java.
Browsers generaly leave in US English as most common and in any case pages display as searched.

I am for sure a bad tester for some things as after many years with linux I find it hard to fall in to new user
perspective.

Will try and enlist my daughter and her friend as guinea piglets on a fresh bullseye, not easy as they just started
university and work.

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[Member Xecure]

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ModdIt wrote:

never even seen locale-antix (the option “Localize Packages”?

It is still beta
locale-antix

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