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      As I am exploring AntiX I have to start CUPS manually each time after boot.
      However looking at sysv-rc-conf display of what services are set to start at what runlevels CUPS is set to start at runlevels 2-5.
      In my understanding AntiX runs by default in runlevel 5, so should this service not start after boot?
      I am definitely in multi-user mode after all, with explicit login after boot, not ‘demo’, although I understand even with ‘demo’ user it is still in multi-user mode, as it is separate from root.

      Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
      https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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        Seems like you are running in ‘live’ mode. At the bootmenu, you can see the cheat code line disable=lx. Just backspace to remove it and cups should start.

        Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

        antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

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          Beautiful! Thank you.

          If replying would not take much of precious time, I would appreciate advice on the following:
          – Since AntiX is so beautifully architected for Live, such as reliable (!) persistence, easiness of cloning and remastering, setting multi-users – then what would be the advantage of having AntiX installed, instead of Live? My thinking is that when Live it is more permanent and secure: With manual persistence if something goes wrong (rogue code, etc…) just reboot and the system returns to clean state…

          Thanks and Best Regards…

          Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
          https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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            … what would be the advantage of having AntiX installed, instead of Live?

            Would you setup an VM environment with, let’s say, 10 VM’s on a USB-stick (pendrive)? Me not. Just one of many examples.

            My thinking is …

            Wrong.

            With manual persistence if something goes wrong (rogue code, etc…) just reboot and the system returns to clean state…

            You never know where that rouge code settles. It could still be somewhere on USB.

            Security and writable media do not belong in the same sentence.

            That said, non writable media is not safe neither.

            Rouge code can sit just about anywhere. It could be in your UEFI, for example.

            No internet connection? No prob. There is rouge code which will be happy without it by using your video card, your mic and so on.

            The latest example of “legal rouge code” is the UEFI of some ASUS motherboards. You only need a little bit of imagination to understand the possibilities.

            https://www.heise.de/ct/artikel/Asus-verankert-Update-Tool-im-Mainboard-BIOS-4202621.html

            The article is on German but, either you use a translator or the other news on English. However, if you can understand what exactly the UEFI is here doing, then you will either just accept the that nothing is secure but pure luck or you’ll just simply throw your computer in the see an enjoy the sunny day.

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              Thanks for your extensive advice. Interesting article. I read it in the original (German) as translations tend to lose some original meaning…
              As myself being a certified information security professional I agree with you to the extent that you cannot ensure 100%
              security. Ways can be found to work around security precautions. All we can do is to minimize exposure.

              In regards which is more secure – Live on USB or installed – Just want to point to TENS (Trusted Endpoint Network Security) Linux system live on USB, developed by US Department of Defense for use of military/government and also available to public (which means you can download Live linux image for USB stick. Only such is trusted enough security.
              To me it was overkill…

              Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
              https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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                I run antiX installed to hard drive, frugally installed to the same hard drive (ssd) and live on a usb.
                We are so flexible!

                All have their advantages and disadvantages based on user needs.

                On the boxes I use, running live on a usb stick is fine, but works much better on the notebook with usb3.
                Frugal install on the old thinkpad laptop with an ssd drive (antiX installed) flies. usb ports are usb2 so noticeably slower than frugal or installed to hd. antiX is installed to hard drive too. (and I use it more than frugal because … habit,I guess)
                The netbook has windows on it (not for me, but for the other half) and a small 32 GB eMMC drive so frugal is not that practical, but live usb is great (usb3).

                Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

                antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

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                  For the person who elsewhere linked us the definition of “order”, I now link you the definition of rouge.

                  olsztyn, until recently (2yrs ago?) when antiX devs invented the “live-kernel-updater” tool, it was difficult to update the kernel on a liveboot system. Does any other live system by any other distribution support kernel replacement? I don’t think so, I’m not aware of any that do.

                  So, historically, a benefit (more like a necessity) of installing would be to gain ability to easily update the kernel. After doing so, we would squish the system back into an ISO or remaster to a fresh usb drive.

                  My thinking is that when Live it is more permanent and secure

                  I agree. Regardless the ignorant response you received above, we can disallow mounting of fixed drives, and choose “toram” boot option and remove the pendrive we booted from. If someone wants to claim this does not provide a bulletproof method of ensuring one’s system, they’ll be hard-pressed to do so. No, sorry, we’re not immune from a bios rootkit being injected via an OpenGL exploit. If you visit porn site or download torrent and fall for the ruse “you needs to install a ‘codec’ to view this content”, all bets are off.

                  Installed could be favorable for use with some old hardware, like, if the machine has only USB I ports, right? Some of our PCs have the opposite challenge, writing to their upcycled (salvage, repurposed) SATA I hard drive is slower than writing to a pendrive attached to their comparatively fast(er) USB II or USB III ports.

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                    The more I am learning AntiX the more it impresses me. Flexibility and customizability is incredible. And this is exactly what I want from Linux, not a pre-configured, hard to customize OS with lots of bloat…

                    I just installed AntiX Frugal (after watching video) on one of my laptops (which has Windows and Peppermint in separate partitions, of course) booting from my fully configured AntiX Live USB. Amazingly Frugal install carried over all customizations from Live USB, including user Francis login, Space Fluxbox along with all icons!
                    For this Frugal install I followed recommendation from video of Frugal Static, but I think Frugal Root will be better for me as I want only to save changes when I decide, otherwise reverting each time to established configuration.
                    AntiX is amazing!

                    Thanks and Regards,

                    Francis.

                    Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
                    https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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                      Beautiful! Thank you.

                      If replying would not take much of precious time, I would appreciate advice on the following:
                      – Since AntiX is so beautifully architected for Live, such as reliable (!) persistence, easiness of cloning and remastering, setting multi-users – then what would be the advantage of having AntiX installed, instead of Live? My thinking is that when Live it is more permanent and secure: With manual persistence if something goes wrong (rogue code, etc…) just reboot and the system returns to clean state…

                      Thanks and Best Regards…

                      My personal opinion is that installing antiX (and most software) provides the fastest interfaces – typically in most cases I’ve encountered, a hard drive is the fastest (permanent) media – once in memory, a system is at it’s fastest possible state. If you have a configuration that is capable of loading completely into memory quickly, and the load time is reasonable, that can be pretty fast. I’ve run very small distributions that will load very quickly into RAM; they’re sometimes worth doing it, but unless you also have a quickly loading persistence tool (or you do not need to save or recall any software or Web page links), then running live is great. But otherwise, overall a system installed to a hard drive works best. Use live media when you are on the go, out of town, possibly using someone else’s equipment, and you want to run antiX, but not install it on their system. Again, these are simply a few of my personal observations, and there are other ways to use a system; that’s a reason why we offer so many choices.

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                        Yes, indeed. I agree with everything you point out. And SSD speed of laptop is way better than USB stick. So following the idea of Frugal install it seems I will leverage the high speed of SSD with the advantage of Frugal stability. Personally I treat persistence as temporary only and as soon as I get to the next point of feature configuration (On USB that is. I do not yet know the same will hold for Frugal) I remaster to make it permanent – ‘burned’ into new base. So if I find out I can do this with Frugal install, such will end up on all my laptops.

                        On the other hand I have already been able to fully configure AntiX with all needed features so perhaps it will make sense to replace other Linux installs with just AntiX install on all my laptops. I got around SSB already (Site Specific Browser) in AntiX, so I think there is nothing left in other distributions that I would not be able to do in AntiX…

                        Thanks for advice and Best Regards,

                        Francis.

                        Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
                        https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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                          Yes, indeed. I agree with everything you point out. And SSD speed of laptop is way better than USB stick. So following the idea of Frugal install it seems I will leverage the high speed of SSD with the advantage of Frugal stability. Personally I treat persistence as temporary only and as soon as I get to the next point of feature configuration (On USB that is. I do not yet know the same will hold for Frugal) I remaster to make it permanent – ‘burned’ into new base. So if I find out I can do this with Frugal install, such will end up on all my laptops.

                          On the other hand I have already been able to fully configure AntiX with all needed features so perhaps it will make sense to replace other Linux installs with just AntiX install on all my laptops. I got around SSB already (Site Specific Browser) in AntiX, so I think there is nothing left in other distributions that I would not be able to do in AntiX…

                          Thanks for advice and Best Regards,

                          Francis.

                          Excellent points! Solid State Devices (SSD), when used as the fast storage device, are even faster than the traditional hard drive, and nearly as fast as volatile memory. AntiX is certainly capable of functioning as the primary system, and with Debian packages also available, anything you may wish to install that is not previously installed is easily installed through the package tools.

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