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fatmac
I like what you say; I also like to use old computers/laptops, as long as they work reasonably well online, that being one of my main uses of computers.
Music, videos, simple recording of my musical instruments, photos – all are possible on some quite old computers, especially when using our distro.
I’ve been using our distro since the demise of #! (Crunchbang Linux), it was the closest I could find at the time, & am happy to continue to use it, (hopefully for many more years to come).
I don’t use all the features, but I have tried most of them at one time or another, & they are a great asset to our distro, but none of them would have been possible without our dedicated team of programmers & tweakers.
Linux (& BSD) since 1999
oops
For me, the cupidity is a disease, the capitalists of the extreme are in fact neurotics, sicks, because it is necessarily to the detriment of others.
anilkagi
Thanks for sharing your lovely opinion, Seaken64.
Though I have nothing to say, I am just sharing some philosophical musings that popped up in me, after reading some points. I am just sharing them.
Many of us do want the latest. Not all of us can afford it. Some of us don’t need it.
This is an interesting line.
There is a difference between ‘wanting’ and ‘needing’, like below.
Though I may WANT the latest, I may not be in NEED of it.
If I need it/something but can’t afford it, I will have to do something about it, like earn more or take a loan, and buy it.
However, if I don’t need it but want it, just because it is the latest, I wouldn’t bother to earn more or take a loan just to buy the latest.
Instead, I will install antiX, and continue to use my old computer, if it suffices my needs. 🙂Just musings. 🙂
For me, the cupidity is a disease, the capitalists of the extreme are in fact neurotics, sicks, because it is necessarily to the detriment of others.
ABSOLUTELY correct.
Brian Masinick
Thanks for sharing your lovely opinion, Seaken64.
Though I have nothing to say, I am just sharing some philosophical musings that popped up in me, after reading some points. I am just sharing them.
Many of us do want the latest. Not all of us can afford it. Some of us don’t need it.
This is an interesting line.
There is a difference between ‘wanting’ and ‘needing’, like below.
Though I may WANT the latest, I may not be in NEED of it.
If I need it/something but can’t afford it, I will have to do something about it, like earn more or take a loan, and buy it.
However, if I don’t need it but want it, just because it is the latest, I wouldn’t bother to earn more or take a loan just to buy the latest.
Instead, I will install antiX, and continue to use my old computer, if it suffices my needs.Just musings. />
Right on! If we are living on anything more than labored breathing, we have the essential needs to experience life.
There may be a difference, possibly small and possibly great, between existing and thriving. Attitude, actions, behaviors, and health can factor into quality of life.Definitions:
need nēd►
n. A condition or situation in which something must be supplied in order for a certain condition to be maintained or a desired state to be achieved.
n. Something required or wanted; a requisite.
n. Necessity; obligation.want wŏnt, wônt►
intransitive verb To have a strong feeling to have (something); wish (to possess or do something); desire greatly: synonym: desire.
intransitive verb To desire (someone to do something).- This reply was modified 2 years, 7 months ago by Brian Masinick.
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Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
The original message on the antiX Frugal architecture and implementation was conveyed in antiX tutorials and videos by Dolphin_Oracle, one of antiX’ great leaders.
However, there was a great self made barrier between me & the message and the videos. I thought it (Frugal install) was not for me. You broke that barrier. Without you highlighting the usefulness of Frugal install for my setup, I wouldn’t have cared to go through that info material. Even before this, while I was testing DSL or Puppy or some other, which one I don’t remember, or both, I had come across the Frugal install, but I didn’t care to get acquainted with it. Thanks again for introducing the Frugal install.
In these matters, yes, Dolphin Oracle has been an extremely helpful person to not only implement features along with anticapitalista, he has been one of the most helpful video authors who take the time and effort to demonstrate many features of our system, particularly when new features are introduced.
Regarding other distributions, I can distinctly remember times when anti has copied features from other distributions and given due credit to them. Many years ago I can recall the mention of Absolute Linux, a Slackware derivative that is also nimble and has many helpful features; we have benefited from it, along with other distributions. I suspect that one of the major distributions (which itself benefits from the work in our parent Debian distribution) that provided many of the live booting features that came even before the persistence features was the German-based KNOPPIX, I know that some of the tools that we use descended from individuals who worked with Kanotix and sidux (but the tools are not necessarily intrinsic to those distributions, though both were leaders in Debian-based software around the time antiX emerged. I suspect that pieces of many different distributions comprise what we have today, but it’s the integration and toolchest that has been built upon these tools that makes the entire antiX family, including the MX Linux variations, so solid, stable, useful and also modifiable to suit personalization and modification.
These are the very things that attracted me so strongly to MEPIS and antiX at their initial announcements, even prior to the years of excellent releases.
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Brian MasinickThanks for the good information Masinick.
Yeah I have watched @Dolphin Oracle’s videos. They are very helpful. We can’t thank him enough.
pymd
*I’m delighted to meet you all* A very good article, which I enjoyed reading.
ex_Koo
That was so awesome, talk about hitting the nail on the Head. Like new flash fishing lures catch more fishermen than fish. (fisher persons) their not all men..
But their is something else about antiX that make it so awesome too. Snapshot and the minstall command. (Welcome to Heaven)Thanks anilkagi I enjoyed every word.
Brian Masinick
Agreed! Due credit @anilkagi for starting this topic in the first place and sharing some excellent information!
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Brian MasinickPPC
If all goes well for me, I’ll greatly decrease the time I spend here, so I though this was a good place to leave an important message:
Many people can’t afford to update to new computers- all over the world, more so in poorer countries..
antiX is not a mere Operating System- is a community- volunteers that work hard on the Operating System itself, the forum, or updating the existing applications or creating new ones to make the user’s life a bit better- if we don’t waste time with non working computers, it’s more time we have to spend with the more important stuff in our lives, family, work, our pets or hobbies…
And trust me, for regular use, antiX can turn any reasonably fast single core computer, with at least 512 Mb of RAM into a fully working machine- that allows users to use them almost as they would use a regular top of the line recent computer- sometimes in a slower way (others in a very slow way), but, they are fast enough to be useful- my replacement Office pc came with Windows 10- it took about the same time to boot than antiX or MX, but, when using it for working on-line, it many times slowed to a crawl- despite having 3 gig of RAM and a Nvidea video board…
It ran way faster with MX, and even faster with antiX- I do most of my work on-line, so, having the chance to use a modern browser that does not slow down with regular use, is important…
I’ve been using LibreOffice for producing work documents for about 20 years (I used OpenOffice, before the project was forked)- it may take a few moments to load huge documents- slow disk drive and all- but it allows me to work, or simply write! I even tried out some casual games- and it performed fine!
It allows people to view YouTube videos, even if the computer has too low specs to view them inside a browser, it plays hd video even in single core computers!, It plays mp3 files, allows the use of e-mail, social networking, and recently, even the use of on-line Microsoft Office that was off limits to regular Linux users since the dawn of time…
I saw antiX grow this past years, from a tool that, as I put it, was ugly but allowed me to use my computer, to a tool that looks modern and has almost anything a regular computer user may need, out of the box, no terminal use needed.
Still, this is not for everyone- many people are trapped in their own ignorance- they simply don’t even know any other system exists other that what they always have used. Others are trapped used software that does not work in any other Operating system…
But for most computer uses, Linux works, and works without a flaw. antiX brings that to very old computers, allowing them to be used for longer, saving their users money and also the environment, reducing e-garbage: You can, with limitations, even use the web, e-mail, calendars, e-books, play some games, listen music and even see pictures, all even if your computer is too weak to run anything else but the terminal!!!I came for a way to use very old computers. I stayed because I was welcome into this community…
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Xecure
If all goes well for me, I’ll greatly decrease the time I spend here,
I am glad for you, PPC. In this times, good news is always welcome.
antiX Live system enthusiast.
General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.Brian Masinick
@PPC: You have been very helpful to the community. It’s always a pleasure to see what creative ideas or documents that you share.
Thank you for your many contributions!
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Brian Masinick
rayluo
The capitalist would want to make more money by coaxing the consumer, to buy new and improved products, the consumers would get themselves busy trying to become a ‘greater’ consumer. The capitalists encourage the consumer to yield and the consumer perseveres to yield. However there are some people who do not want to participate in this Cat & Mouse game. They neither want to be the Cat nor the Mouse.
How many people want the latest, hi-tech hardware that can run the latest software? I presume, most of them just get carried away by the current and trend. Most home users don’t have to change their Hardware. They can ply on what they have. However, Microsoft and Apple want to offer us new things, better things, but the question is, are they necessary for everybody. They are not. Manufacturers make it inevitable. They stop support for older platforms, and bring newer versions which require newer machines. An average home user can continue to use the ten year old computer, for his simple home use tasks. Why should they buy new hardware and the new software? This is where Antix, comes in. What Antix says on its FAQ page is very much true.
antiX should run on most computers, ranging from 192MB old PII systems with pre-configured 128MB swap to the latest powerful boxes. ...……
FLOSS development is a revolution.
When, Eric S. Raymond said “Every good work of software starts by scratching a developer’s personal itch” in his book “The Cathedral and the Bazaar”, he was wrong.
The “FLOSS developers” does not start working on a software, to scratch his personal itch. They do it to keep themselves self reliant and others who join hands with them.
However, Eric S. Raymond was right in saying “Given a large enough beta-tester and co-developer base, almost every problem will be characterized quickly and the fix obvious to someone and a large user base leads to rapid code improvement and effective debugging.”. That’s the advantage of the benevolent FLOSS revolution.
Thanks @anikagi for eloquently pointing out all these! At first, my logical mind did not think it that way, because, only a resource-hungry OS would exclude lower-specs machines, but a lean OS like antiX would run well on both low-end and high-end machines, so, it seems weird to say antiX philosophy is against capitalism. However, the more you think about this topic, the more you would realize that, it must take some determination from the core developers to make antiX strike relentlessly to become so lean and lightweight. (There are perhaps half a dozen Linux distro out there that are lightweight, but antiX is still unique.) So, @anikagi must be right that this *is* antiX’s philosophy. Heck, even our beloved admin here goes by ID @anticapitalista, with a signature line “Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.” 🙂
Long live antiX and its community!
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