Trouble with basic functions

[Member marek]

Hi, I am quite new to AntiX and also WM iceWM is new to me, which makes it quite difficult for me to find my way around. Nevertheless, I like it and want to learn. I have a problem with the file manager. I completely don’t know how to copy files, or how to view connected devices. This caused me to try installing minimal XFCE, but I don’t think this is the solution. Is anyone able to help me with this window manager?

Okay, I’m a noob. Dragging works. A lot of learning ahead of me 😀

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[Member marek]

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Ok maybe I understand how copy file. When I clik and choose “copy”, then I point to new location, and add new name, that’s right?

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[Moderator Brian Masinick]

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Doing plenty of reading, then trying out what you have read is a good way to learn.

When you make mistakes, note them, go back to the reading and try to determine the mistakes and the correct way.

I’ve been doing that for a lifetime and many things are familiar and sometimes I can figure out a problem based on what I have already experienced. If you are new to all of this you have to start somewhere.

PPC has written a number of guides, suggestions and tools.

Marcelocripe writes and cites these tools several times almost every week so I recommend you go through our forum, find those posts and links; read them. Experiment with them. Make mistakes and learn from them. You’ll feel a great sense of accomplishment when you begin to understand how to use the software and then you will enjoy it!

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[Moderator caprea]

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There’s just a discussion about the file-managers on antiX in one thread here in the forum, where BobC posted a a well done selfmade video about the options and how to change them and iznit reminded on some rox-filer videos
https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/antix-22-being-worked-on/page/3/#post-84913
https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/antix-22-being-worked-on/page/3/#post-84916
but feel free to ask if you get stuck

Welcome to the forum!

[Moderator christophe]

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Brian & caprea gave the best advice. I’ll just add that (to me) rox-filer works nicely when you have 2 windows open, and drag & drop to copy/move/create a link.

Your mounted volumes (usb sticks or others) get mounted under /media. Just click there, then on your username folder under that, to access them.

Open zzzfm from the main menu, if you want to use the other file manager sometimes. Both are available, regardless of the one that is the default.

confirmed antiX frugaler, since 2019

[Member sybok]

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Hi, let me suggest an alternative file manager that applies once the media/shares are mounted.
Perhaps, it could be something you find a bit easier.
If yes, then you could (occasionally) use it when you need to get things done before learning the file manager discussed.

I believe that antiX comes with ‘mc’ = Midnight Commander installed (if not, you can install it using ‘sudo apt install mc’ in the terminal/console).
This is a 2-panel terminal-based utility akin Total Commander, no dragging this time; you mark your file(s) and perform desired operation using keyboard shortcut.
1) Open terminal/console.
2) Type ‘mc’ and hit enter.
More info available e.g. at https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/how-to-install-midnight-commander/ .

[Member marcelocripe]

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Hello marek.

Welcome to antiX Linux and the forum.

I don’t know how to write in English and I send my texts translated by the internet translator. I hope you can understand everything, if your native language is not English, please translate my original Brazilian Portuguese text directly into your language with the help of internet translators.

Regardless of your level of knowledge about GNU/Linux, I recommend you read these excellent tutorials created by @PPC:

What is antiX and how to try it out or install it.
Short essential how-to list for the complete Linux newbie.
How-to install applications – 2020 version.
How to: correctly use antiX forum.

When I first started using antiX, I read the tutorials that PPC created, these readings saved me a lot of time and I think it saves time for any new antiX user. Your time will not be wasted with these readings, everything will seem to be much easier than you could imagine. You won’t waste your time searching the internet or even creating new topics, on the contrary, you will gain a lot of time with these readings.

I recommend you try out desktops that have “zzz” in their name. I usually use zzz-IceWM or zzz-JWM or zzz-Fluxbox (each of these desktops has its own characteristics and consumes more or less resources), zzzFM will be the default file manager for your desktop, it it is very similar to the other file managers of other GNU/Linux distributions and Windows XP. To access other antiX workspaces, click on Menu, Desktop, Other Desktops and click on the workspace name, instantly the workspace will be loaded.

To display the devices connected to your computer in the zzzFM file manager, click once on the icon that has the appearance of a hard disk, this menu is on the left side of the curved arrow to the right. Then click on the blue colored folder icon that is on the right side of the right curved arrow. Then click on the “Devices” menu, move the cursor to the last option (I don’t remember the text of this menu), click on the “Display Internal Units” checkbox. Now the zzzFM file manager will look similar to “File Manager Settings zzzFM with Recycle Bin for antiX 21 in pt-BR language”. The other option is to download the compressed file “.zip” from the Internet Archive, use the internet translator to translate the text file “Configuracoes do zzzFM com a Lxeira pt-BR 04-11-2021.txt” to your language, this file contains the tutorial on how to use the zzzFM configuration file that is in the “.zip” compressed file. If you want, you can also help me to make the text file of the tutorial available in your language and so more people will benefit from this volunteer work.

Whenever you need to ask for help or technical support, post the output of the terminal command $ inxi -Fxz, copy and paste it in the message of the topic you are going to create in this forum.

When you start a topic or participate with a post, remember to check the option “Notify me of follow-up replies via email”, by checking this option, you will receive a message in your email box whenever there are replies from topic in question.

marcelocripe
(Original text in Brazilian Portuguese language)

Translations:

Área de trabalho = Desktop
Documentos = Documents
Downloads = Downloads
Imagens = Images or Pictures
Música = Music
Vídeos = Videos

SCR you don’t need to translate, this folder appears only when we use the Print Screen key and then disappears.

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Olá marek.

Seja bem-vindo(a) ao antiX Linux e ao fórum.

Eu não sei escrever em idioma Inglês e envio os meus textos traduzidos pelo tradutor da internet. Eu espero que você consiga compreender tudo, caso o seu idioma nativo não seja o Inglês, por favor, traduza o meu texto original em idioma Português do Brasil diretamente para o seu idioma com a ajuda dos tradutores da internet.

Independentemente do seu nível de conhecimento sobre GNU/Linux, eu recomendo você ler estes excelentes tutoriais criados pelo @PPC:

What is antiX and how to try it out or install it.
Short essential how-to list for the complete Linux newbie.
How-to install applications – 2020 version.
How to: correctly use antiX forum.

Quando eu comecei a utilizar o antiX, eu li os tutoriais que o PPC criou, estas leituras me pouparam muito do meu tempo e acho que poupa o tempo de qualquer novo usuário do antiX. O seu tempo não será perdido com estas leituras, tudo parecerá ser muito mais fácil do que você poderia imaginar. Você não perderá o seu tempo com pesquisas na internet ou até mesmo em criar novos tópicos, ao contrário, você ganhará muito tempo com estas leituras.

Eu recomendo você experimentar as áreas de trabalho que possuem “zzz” em seu nome. Eu costumo utilizar o zzz-IceWM ou zzz-JWM ou zzz-Fluxbox (cada uma destas áreas de trabalho possuem características próprias e consomem mais ou menos recursos), o zzzFM será o gerenciador de arquivos padrão da sua área de trabalho, ele é muito semelhante aos outros gerenciadores de arquivos das outras distribuições GNU/Linux e do Windows XP. Para acessar as outras áreas de trabalho do antiX, clique no Menu, Área de Trabalho, Alternar Entre as Áreas de Trabalho e clique sobre o nome da área de trabalho, instantaneamente a área de trabalho será carregada.

Para exibir os dispositivos conectados no seu computador no gerenciador de arquivos zzzFM, clique uma vez no ícone que possui a aparência de um disco rígido, este menu está do lado esquerdo da seta curva para a direita. Em seguida, clique no ícone da pasta de cor azul que está do lado direito da seta curva para a direita. Depois, clique no menu “Dispositivos”, passe o cursor até a última opção (eu não me lembro do texto deste menu), clique na caixa de opção “Exibir as Unidades Internas”. Agora o gerenciador de arquivos zzzFM ficará com a aparência similar a “Configurações do Gerenciador de Arquivos zzzFM com a Lixeira para o antiX 21 em idioma pt-BR”. A outra opção, é você baixar do Internet Archive o arquivo compactado “.zip”, utilizar o tradutor da internet para traduzir o arquivo de texto “Configuracoes do zzzFM com a Lixeira pt-BR 04-11-2021.txt” para o seu idioma, este arquivo contém o tutorial de como utilizar o arquivo de configurações do zzzFM que está no arquivo compactado “.zip”. Se você quiser, poderá ainda me ajudar a disponibilizar o arquivo de texto do tutorial em seu idioma e assim mais pessoas serão beneficiadas com este trabalho voluntário.

Sempre que você precisar solicitar ajuda ou suporte técnico, poste o resultado do comando do terminal $ inxi -Fxz, copie e cole aqui na mensagem do tópico que você for criar neste fórum.

Quando você iniciar algum tópico ou participar com alguma postagem, lembre-se de marcar a opção “Notify me of follow-up replies via email”, marcando esta opção, você receberá uma mensagem na sua caixa de e-mail sempre que houver respostas do tópico em questão.

marcelocripe
(Texto original em idioma Português do Brasil)

[Member punranger]

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Try: Menu-Desktop-Other Desktops, then ZzzFM-Ice. This changes the default file manager to Zzz, and it’s the easiest way to do it. ZZZ is the closest to Windows of the available options. Do try the other combinations if you please. Xfce is nice, but the already available options are all lightweight and fit the purpose of antiX being “lean”.

antiX linux: The best way to revive an old computer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCTaUAP6sSg

[Member marek]

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Thank you so much for such comprehensive answers and links to readings. I will definitely be studying. I’m not so fresh in linux, but still many things I don’t know. So far I was using Mx Linux, but I decided to definitely end up using systemd. I’m just exploring the whole background of these arguments and slowly a clear picture is starting to emerge. My language is Polish and I often use a translator unfortunately. Your responses are very valuable, for which I thank you very much.

[Moderator Brian Masinick]

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sybok wrote:

Hi, let me suggest an alternative file manager that applies once the media/shares are mounted.
Perhaps, it could be something you find a bit easier.
If yes, then you could (occasionally) use it when you need to get things done before learning the file manager discussed.

I believe that antiX comes with ‘mc’ = Midnight Commander installed (if not, you can install it using ‘sudo apt install mc’ in the terminal/console).
This is a 2-panel terminal-based utility akin Total Commander, no dragging this time; you mark your file(s) and perform desired operation using keyboard shortcut.
1) Open terminal/console.
2) Type ‘mc’ and hit enter.
More info available e.g. at https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/how-to-install-midnight-commander/ .

mc definitely IS available and installed; I’m using antiX-21-runit_x64-base, I do not remember explicitly installing it, but whether I did or did not install it, mc IS available and it also works great. Yup, ANOTHER very good alternative; though we’re “lean and mean”, we’re not lacking at all in great tools, we just provide the lesser known, but more lean and efficient tools.

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[Member marcelocripe]

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I have a problem with the file manager. I completely don’t know how to copy files, or how to view connected devices.

Please let us know whether or not you were able to display the connected devices in the ROX-Filer or zzzFM file manager.

My language is Polish and I often use a translator unfortunately. Your responses are very valuable, for which I thank you very much.

If we are able to communicate and understand each other with the help of automatic translators, then we are on the right track.
When the time is right, if you are willing and able to become an antiX volunteer translator, feel invited to join our antiX volunteer translators team.
In this topic you can find the antiX and antiX Application Program Translation Platforms.

marcelocripe

Tłumaczenia:

Área de trabalho = Desktop = Pulpit
Documentos = Documents = Dokumenty
Downloads = Downloads = Pobieranie
Imagens = Images or Pictures = = Obrazy lub Obrazki
Música = Music = Muzyka
Vídeos = Videos = Filmy

SCR nie musisz tłumaczyć, ten folder pojawia się tylko wtedy, gdy używamy klawisza Print Screen, a następnie znika.

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I have a problem with the file manager. I completely don’t know how to copy files, or how to view connected devices.

Por favor, deixo-nos saber se você conseguiu ou não exibir os dispositivos conectados no gerenciador de arquivos ROX-Filer ou zzzFM.

My language is Polish and I often use a translator unfortunately. Your responses are very valuable, for which I thank you very much.

Se nós somos capazes de nos comunicar e compreender uns aos outros com o auxílio dos tradutores automáticos, então nós estamos no caminho certo.
Quando for o momento oportuno, se você quiser e puder se tornar um tradutor voluntário do antiX, sinta-se convidado a fazer parte da nossa equipe tradutores voluntários do antiX.
Neste tópico você encontra as Plataformas de Traduções do antiX e dos Programas Aplicativos do antiX.

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Welcome to open 2 rox file manager windows and the wonderful world of drag and drop.

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Hi Marek,

What file manager on any Linux, DOS or Windows system did you like best?

antiX is very flexible

I noticed in the tag you put MC.

Did you know that in antiX you can set Midnight Commander to be your default file manager? That is set in Preferred Applications. Its on the Desktop tab of Control Centre. See pic.

Another option would be to add it to your toolbar with IceWM Toolbar Icon Manager so it only takes 1 click to run it. See pic.

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[Moderator Brian Masinick]

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@BobC: Really nice job with the annotations and your images; hopefully that will be just the thing.

Hey, this old fella can learn stuff too! Thank you!

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I use Midnight Commander as the default file manager on my 1997 Pentium II 300. Its super light and quick. You can always add zzzfm to the toolbar so its easy to use when you need more features.

The annotations are courtesy of MTPaint with the enhanced screenshot utility. Its a great setup for annotation.

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