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February 6, 2018 at 11:17 am #6221
Anonymous
I just downloaded antix-base-17.iso and burnt it on CD. Booting from that CD with an 1999 Thinpad 570 ended short after BIOS with “ISOLINUX 6.03 6.03x ETCD” and nothing more. I tried to boot from this Disk with a more modern Laptop: success. What could be the reason for “not booting”?
I’m searching for a good modern OS for this Thinkpad and tried more OSes than just antix. Everytime from CD and all CDs are from the same charge and all are burnt with my modern Laptop and K3B. And all other CDs startet without problem. So I assume, the reason is within the ISO-image and that reason is not compatible with old computers …
Spielmops
February 6, 2018 at 11:40 am #6226Forum Admin
rokytnji
::CD drive lens might be dirty or toasted < might have to run a len cleaner disc through it> even though you say it booted with other isos. I boot my old T23 with a PLOP CD 1st. Then install PLOP using PLOP options. Then make a usb of antiX. Because my bios does not support usb boot on usb 1.1. When I installed AntiX. I installed grub to mbr. Which probably overwritten my PLOP bootloader install. So all was good.
I have a thinkpad thread Titled T23 in the hardware section of the forum.
Oh yeah. Did you md5sum check your antix downloaded iso before making the cd 1st?
- This reply was modified 5 years, 3 months ago by rokytnji.
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How to Search for AntiX solutions to your problemsFebruary 6, 2018 at 11:45 am #6229Anonymous
February 6, 2018 at 12:19 pm #6231Forum Admin
dolphin_oracle
::what is the processor in that thinkpad 570? If it is one of the Pentium II models, then you will not likely get a debian-based distro to boot on it (anti and the guys can correct me if the antiX kernel can boot a P2). I’m not even sure about the Pentium IIIs anymore with the stretch-based distros. I’m fairly certain Pentium 4’s still work.
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February 6, 2018 at 12:35 pm #6233Anonymous
::It should run on most computers, ranging from 256MB old PIII systems
Source: About antiX
February 7, 2018 at 11:53 am #6276Anonymous
::Ok. Now I know, what Plop is. I could boot the antix-ISO with it. Antix runs fine on the old Thinkpad. But two things were not OK: it told me, that no sound-card was available and the driver of the graphic-card was neofb and not neomagic. The sound-card has been detected and the drivers were loaded as it should be (tried aplay -l/-L).
I know very well, what the Thinkpad is able to do – it runs very well with Puppy-Slacko and can even play DVDs and Mpeg-videos. Web-surfing with Firefox is very slow, because Firefox uses so much RAM, but surfing with Midori is fine.
I wanted to install antix on the harddisk, but antix forces to use 3.5 Gbyte for the system. That’s much, if the harddisk has only 6 GB. Why so much?
And that’s the reason, why I gave up on antix and am still searching for a up-to-date Linux-OS, which needs < 100MB RAM and < 2 GB harddisk.
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February 9, 2018 at 5:26 am #6369Forum Admin
anticapitalista
::Good luck with finding one.
BTW antiX-17-base does not take up 3.5 Gbyte, it is more like 2.6G
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February 11, 2018 at 6:00 am #6441Member
fatmac
::Did you check your download before burning it to disk?
(Lots of people don’t.)AntiX is good on old machines – but if it doesn’t fit in the way you want, there are lots more distros you can try, SliTaz, TinyCore, Tiny Linux, are just a few of the top of my head, go try some more.
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February 26, 2018 at 6:28 pm #6983Memberseaken64
::what is the processor in that thinkpad 570? If it is one of the Pentium II models, then you will not likely get a debian-based distro to boot on it (anti and the guys can correct me if the antiX kernel can boot a P2). I’m not even sure about the Pentium IIIs anymore with the stretch-based distros. I’m fairly certain Pentium 4’s still work.
Does that have to do with the kernel being used? Do some kernels not support P-II and P-III? I’ve always been confused about that. If the kernel is set for i386 doesn’t that included P-II and P-III? I’m having some problems also with a P-III but it works fine on a P-4.
February 26, 2018 at 6:30 pm #6984Memberseaken64
::Ok. Now I know, what Plop is. I could boot the antix-ISO with it. Antix runs fine on the old Thinkpad. But two things were not OK: it told me, that no sound-card was available and the driver of the graphic-card was neofb and not neomagic. The sound-card has been detected and the drivers were loaded as it should be (tried aplay -l/-L).
I know very well, what the Thinkpad is able to do – it runs very well with Puppy-Slacko and can even play DVDs and Mpeg-videos. Web-surfing with Firefox is very slow, because Firefox uses so much RAM, but surfing with Midori is fine.
I wanted to install antix on the harddisk, but antix forces to use 3.5 Gbyte for the system. That’s much, if the harddisk has only 6 GB. Why so much?
And that’s the reason, why I gave up on antix and am still searching for a up-to-date Linux-OS, which needs < 100MB RAM and < 2 GB harddisk.
Spielmops
So you got it installed? That is a P-II right? I also tried Plop on my P-III but could not get it to boot off the USB. I burned DVD and it booted. But it hangs and does not finish the install. Works fine on a P-4.
Sean
February 27, 2018 at 12:35 am #6995Anonymous
::Yes, the CPU of that Thinkpad 570 is a Pentium II. And I can ensure you, that you can get a debian-based-distribution to boot – if it comes with non-pae-kernel. Antix is working on that old machine.
Every distribution works better, if it is installed on harddisk, so the RAM has not to hold the whole OS. That was the handicap of Antix: it wanted to much (space on) harddisk.
I tried about a dozen distros, but the fastest and easiest OS to install is Puppy. Tiny Core Linux needs less RAM tha any other, but you have to do the configuration by shell and that’s very difficult, if you have a physical German keyboard. I did not find a way to change the keyboard-layout to german within 3 hours.
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February 27, 2018 at 10:43 pm #7046Memberseaken64
::I was able to get antiX-14 working on a P-II 450 with 256 RAM. But I haven’t tried version 16 or 17. I used the Base version with Fluxbox. That’s about as low as I can go before I start getting lost. I couldn’t do the Core or Net installs because I am not good enough yet at setting up the menus and launchers. But I can use MC as the file manager and apt-get. antiX is actually quite good as a console system. That may be why it is called anti “X”?
For those older boxes I had good success with Vector Linux. But I had to move on because I couldn’t install new software. I found the Slackware packages and compiling difficult. I like the MX setup with XFCE. But I find the antiX setup best for Pentium-III systems and sometimes Pentium-II with at least 256 RAM. And Puppy is okay but not easy to setup on the hard disk which is my preferred way to install.
I have a Thinkpad 600E that I have antiX-14 on, along with Win2K and Vector 6 Lite.
Sean
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