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olsztyn
LOL, I didn’t ask for the new feature, but I saw it had been added, and when I turned it on,
I was also was surprised by it, and so i added the big arrows and 2 second delay to give people a clue how it works.I have done some more testing of this antiX SID ISO on a few laptops and my summary is the following:
– It does not complete booting into WM on my Thinkpad X61 laptops (the same issue on all three X61 machines) furnished with Intel video card. Gets into a loop, seems to be looking for a video driver or something. It is flashing the same messages repeatedly so not sure of the wording.
– It bots successfully into IceWM and works fine on Thinkpad T410 laptops, which are furnished with nVidia NVS3100M card. My prior comments on cosmetics were done on these laptops.
– It does not complete booting. looping as above before getting to IceWM on another model of Thinkpad T410, which is furnished with Intel video, does not have nVidia as the one above.
– It fails booting into IceWM on my Thinkpad T520 machines, which are furnished with a dual nVidia NVS4200M/Intel video cards. I think such dual nVidia/Intel video are called Optimus.
– It fails booting into IceWM with the same loop on my Thinkpad X220, which is furnished with just Intel video.With the above testing this antiX SID ISO seems to boot only on machine that has just nVidia card. Other 6 machines that have any Intel card fail to boot into IceWM with what appears a similar loop that seems related to video display.
I do not know if this behavior is common for all machines with Intel but at least my 6 laptops are such, where this SID antiX fails to complete booting to IceWM.
Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_ParametersBobC
Maybe there is a package that needs to be installed that doesn’t exist on the sid core or my installed 22 base runit? If you tell me what package, I can add it before recreating the iso next time.
Maybe there is a package that needs to be installed that doesn’t exist on the sid core or my installed 22 base runit? If you tell me what package, I can add it before recreating the iso next time.
Looks like something is definitely missing. My first thought was the Intel module that was mentioned by @Christophe that must be installed for Intel video to work but it seems that module is already there if I am not mistaken. Please check though.
I would myself like to know what is actually missing that prevents this antiX ISO to boot on Intel video but I do not so far. It is definitely worth finding out as otherwise your ISO seems very good when it works and it might be a good candidate to become SID Base, if anticapitalista agrees to officially call it as such, after appropriate adjustments and fixes are finalized.
Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_ParametersPossibly something didn’t get installed because I didn’t need it on the machine I was using.
PS: you could use my packagecomp run on another antix 22 runit 64 base on that same machine to see what packages are missing or added vs running from the iso on a machine that it will boot on.
- This reply was modified 4 months, 4 weeks ago by BobC.
Brian Masinick
I’m sorry to report that the BobC respin, both old and new, fail across about ten years of different versions.
First I tried the first version on my HP-14 and Dell Inspiron 5558 laptop.
Both failed and this time I was able to spot the critical error that caused repeating kernel errors.Then I downloaded the newer version, hoping it would help. Same errors and same scenario; this time I tried 3 systems, the two previously mentioned plus an older Lenovo X201; identical failure on all three; sorry, there’s something in this rebuild that is inaccurate. In all cases even at boot it shows indications that something is missing but it does start up; however when it started logging it started showing kernel failures.
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Brian MasinickTis true, I’m afraid. It boots and runs just fine on the machine it was created on (Dell M2400), but on 2 other Dell laptops it crashes going into Xorg. Not sure what I might have done wrong.
Maybe this all needs to be done on the core flashdrive without installing at any point, and comparing it to a 22 base runit also not installed.
Sorry for wasting everyone’s time and effort.
Brian Masinick
BobC, is your creation a snapshot, or is it based on Core plus a few packages and then an iso build?
If 2) I’m guessing you missed one or two things that must be present in a bootable image that is also installable.
I’m rusty myself. The only recent ISO image I built was simply a snapshot and it works very well.
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Brian MasinickYes, I took the core ISO, installed it, updated it, upgraded it, added all the packages that were missing from base, made a snapshot, and burned the iso
Brian Masinick
Yes, I took the core ISO, installed it, updated it, upgraded it, added all the packages that were missing from base, made a snapshot, and burned the iso
Hmm. Normally that works great.
Wondering what went wrong?--
Brian MasinickHmm. Normally that works great.
Wondering what went wrong?Based on the process BobC outlined above, if BobC used the current SID Core ISO (as published by anticapitalista) as the source, then a logical conclusion could be that the Core SID ISO, which was used as source is defective or upgrades from Unstable/SID libraries made it defective.
- This reply was modified 4 months, 4 weeks ago by olsztyn.
Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_ParametersBrian Masinick
@olsztyn: That’s a plausible explanation.
I hope we can create a more reliable collection of snapshots and response in a supporting effort to sample and test the new release.
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Brian MasinickModdIt
Issue on Intel graphics sounds like what happened on 22, only the older kernel will boot on this machine.
Tested live. Seems there may be some kernel bug involved. On another device booted no issue.Could also be something else, Bob tried with the series 6 kernel, is firmware-misc-nonfree still installed.
https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=153084
Interesting thread, especialy from post 16 by Steve Pusser,I tried using a 64gb USB-3 to boot the 22 core sid 64 runit with static root and home persist enabled and add all the packages missing for 22 base runit to it, and it gets quite a ways, but it fails to add them and goes into a loop. only way out is to reboot. Odd that mc only shows 6gb free space at the start when i am using a 64gb flashdrive. i am guessing it maybe runs out of space.
christophe
I’m just guessing here, because I don’t run sid, and I don’t have much experience with it. (I tried it once, and when something broke, I erased it and went back to stable.) But perhaps this is the reason antiX doesn’t have a sid “base” or “full” iso. Perhaps, by it’s nature, it’s too unstable, and all the parts don’t coalesce until they are “stable,” to produce the base/full antiX setup.
It doesn’t work today. If it works tomorrow, perhaps the next update would break it again…- This reply was modified 4 months, 4 weeks ago by christophe.
confirmed antiX frugaler, since 2019
It doesn’t work today. If it works tomorrow, perhaps the next update would break it again…
Indeed. But specifically in my case I do not worry about it being broken by some future updates. I would run it without persistence and test after each upgrade. If such upgrade has any defects I would just reboot to return to the perfectly working base.
Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters
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