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Updated: antiX Updater, Toolbar Icon Manager, Quick Personal Menu Manager
This tools, included in the antix-goodies package just got updated:
antiX Updater – the new version is still being localized, so all you non English speakers, will see the application in English, until localization is finished.
If updates are available, it now displays a window telling you how many updates are available. You can click to Manually update (this is just what the old version of the script did) or Automatic Update (the script will always select the default answer for any question the upgrade process asks).
The Automatic mode is important because some users found too confusing having the system ask so many questions, and were not sure if they should keep old config files or replace them with the new ones (even if it was suggested to keep the old files). Some users even suggested the update process was so complex that they would not update antiX! That would be dangerous, specially for network connected devices…IceWM Toolbar Icon Manager – some fixes, and a great speed increase, while starting up- should start instantly on most systems, very under-powered systems, like single core Atom netbooks, should load it in about 2 seconds…
(Quick/Fast) Personal Menu Manager (for now, only for IceWM)- it’s based in the new Toolbar Icon Manager- it’s a more powerful version of the old script. Allows you to add applications to the personal menu, and also remove them. Non English speakers: while this script is still being localized, for now, TIM’s localization file is used, so you get localized buttons.
@anticapitalista and the Dev team, please, when you upgrade the package with the new localization files, remember to change the script’s TEXTDOMAIN variable to the correct name!!!I hope this changes help make antiX an easier to use system, without using any more system resources.
This updates and the updated app-select tool Dave is producing should help antiX feel even faster, when using this toolsP.
- This topic was modified 2 months, 2 weeks ago by PPC.
- This topic was modified 2 months, 2 weeks ago by PPC.
- This topic was modified 2 months, 2 weeks ago by PPC.
Brian Masinick
I see
antiX Updater
IceWM Toolbar Icon Manager
Personal Menu ManagerIn the antiX menu now.
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Brian MasinickLead Farmer
antiX Updater – the new version is still being localized, so all you non English speakers, will see the application in English, until localization is finished.
If updates are available, it now displays a window telling you how many updates are available. You can click to Manually update (this is just what the old version of the script did) or Automatic Update (the script will always select the default answer for any question the upgrade process asks).
The Automatic mode is important because some users found too confusing having the system ask so many questions, and were not sure if they should keep old config files or replace them with the new ones (even if it was suggested to keep the old files). Some users even suggested the update process was so complex that they would not update antiX! That would be dangerous, specially for network connected devices…I really thought “Manually” mean selecting which packages you what to upgrade, like opening a dialog that the user can select packages, and the updater will do “sudo apt-get -y pachage1 && apt-get -y pachage2…”
- This reply was modified 2 months, 2 weeks ago by Lead Farmer.
- This reply was modified 2 months, 2 weeks ago by Lead Farmer.
sudo apt-get -y
No – the automatic mode does not do “sudo apt upgrade -y” that can be dangerous, since “yes” is not always the default answer. The “automatic mode” always replays with the default answer (it can be yes or no), to any questions asked by apt upgrade.
The window that appears if there are updates available also explains what each button does- but it’s still up for localization – I ask everyone that can help localizing this scripts (and any other antiX applications) to help out over at https://www.transifex.com/anticapitalista/antix-development/dashboard/Portuguese, Portuguese Brazilian, Spanish, Italian, French, Swedish, etc, are already 100% finished…
Edit: antiX-Updater was created just to be a simple GUI for “sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade”, so people that do not want (or are afraid) to use the terminal, have a simple GUI way to do it. that’s all. I just added a few more features to it, like listing how many packages can be updated and the “automatic upgrade”, because even jut having to press enter to any question that apt upgrade asked was too confusing to people used to completely automatic updates in other systems. Until that GUI script came along, the only GUI available was clicking several buttons, in Synaptic (not ideal, if all you want to do is check for updates and/or upgrade your system). I played with the idea of making it more complex… but that would be a duplication of efforts: synaptic can already handle complex tasks- the idea is a simple to use application that does just what it is meant to do, nothing more.
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The window that appears if there are updates available also explains what each button does- but it’s still up for localization – I ask everyone that can help localizing this scripts (and any other antiX applications) to help out over at https://www.transifex.com/anticapitalista/antix-development/dashboard/
I used and the updater today, but I clicked before reading (it’s a bad habit) so I didn’t know what is “Manually”.
I do think the Updater is more user friendly, only mouse needed app.
- This reply was modified 2 months, 2 weeks ago by Lead Farmer.
- This reply was modified 2 months, 2 weeks ago by Lead Farmer.
anticapitalista
While it may be true that having a gui front-end for various apt updates can be useful for new users (and old), our philosophy at antiX is to also encourage our users to take control. That means not relying on gui front ends that ‘hide’ what is going on in the background.
The antiX-Updater gui tool is a very good example of an attempt to combine both. User clicks a button, but user is also shown what is going on.- This reply was modified 2 months, 2 weeks ago by anticapitalista. Reason: fix typos
Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.
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Brian Masinick
While it may be true that having a gui front-end for various apt updates can be useful for new users (and old), our philosophy at antiX is to also encourage our users to take control. That means not relying on gui front ends that ‘hide’ what is going on in the background.
The antiX-Updater gui tool is a very good example of an attempt to combine both. User clicks a button, but user is also shown what is going on.Absolutely true!
Several of the tools “help” people by performing some features with a click but what’s taking place is still shown.
Generally speaking I do things myself and I’ve written many of my own alias commands and short scripts to save time and typing but I always want to know what is taking place. I’ve appreciated a few of the tools when I see that they do several of the same routine things I do and yet I alternate between “the old way” and using tools because it’s important to understand and remember how things work.
As people learn it’s a great idea to actually look at the tools and scripts and attempt to understand them. Veterans get it; beginners are wise to learn.
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