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Noman01
Is there a way to do an upgrade from 17 to 19 or is this a fresh install.
Thanks for all your efforts.
BobC
There is anther thread with the same question last night. Best to do a fresh install.
If you would lose a lot of work look for a program called aptik and aptik-gtk to help you save and restore things that are important to you.
I see fatmac suggested you could do a fresh install saving your /home partition. I think even doing that its best to back it up and pull the backup off to a flashdrive or DVD or other drive just to be safe.
- This reply was modified 3 years, 6 months ago by BobC. Reason: added fatmac's suggestion from other thread
Thanks for the quick reply that’s what I thought but wanted to check with others more knowledgeable than me. I know some distro’s you can and some you can’t. Again thanks for the quick response.
fatmac is a moderator here and I would trust his response. He also suggested a backup first.
rokytnji
Being a dude who ran antix 14b2 into the dirt trying to keep it current.
Also experience going back to version 7 days.Spending hours in terminal fixing things in /var cuz I can be stubborn also.
Re-install was always easier, less time consuming, and in the long run. More stable.
You wanna dist-upgrade from stretch to buster while systemd is held back. Just change your repos to what AntiX 19 has listed and dist-upgrade away. It is only time. Lot’s of it.
Simple , no? You can document how it goes for ya. Make ya famous. Or infamous. Aint sure yet.
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Brian Masinick
There is anther thread with the same question last night. Best to do a fresh install.
If you would lose a lot of work look for a program called aptik and aptik-gtk to help you save and restore things that are important to you.
I see fatmac suggested you could do a fresh install saving your /home partition. I think even doing that its best to back it up and pull the backup off to a flashdrive or DVD or other drive just to be safe.
I agree: 1) Before doing any change, it is always best to save, backup, or otherwise make provisions for any unexpected changes (or errors of any kind) during system updates or upgrades.
2) Upgrading from one system to another IS possible, but anyone who has to ask any questions about this is not ensured of a safe, successful experience. So unless you want to do upgrades as a learning experience and you have either other computers, multiple distributions, or both, it’s not a good idea. I only do such things when I am in a testing mood with numerous forms of backup alternatives.
3) System installations are almost always easy, seamless, and in reasonably well-tested releases, likely to do what they are expected to do.
I am grabbing a copy of antiX-19 Full and I will be testing it live and installed.
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Brian MasinickNoman01, Have you got a spare machine you could play/test on? That’s what I do myself.
If you use a setup like that you can test and retest without risking your main system.
I think its pretty clear that trying to just “upgrade” it is not a good idea unless you are a guru or the Devs specifically provide a way and instructions how to do it.
FYI, Yes, I erased my drive once by mistake ad learned from it, but I don’t reccommend it…
serenity
Probably answer is obvious but I have to ask. Do I upgrade from antiX 19-b3 or fresh new install? I assume result is same? NO?
rokytnji
My take on alphas/betas over the years is that testers get the benefit of getting AntiX final without a reinstall and cruise blissfully into final release status because usually. Repos links don’t change. dist-upgrade should get you there seamlessly. If concerned about repo change. Do a compare between yours on beta and compare with final.
.Which is why I considered my AntiX14b install AntiX 17 even though inxi won’t show it because we like to see what
was initially installed before you ask about a problem you are having.- This reply was modified 3 years, 6 months ago by rokytnji.
- This reply was modified 3 years, 6 months ago by rokytnji.
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How to Search for AntiX solutions to your problemsSerenity, Sorry, I forget if you are a techie or normal user. I get the impression noman01 is wanting to learn and we are all trying to coach a way to do that with the least pain for max gain.
I’m a techie, not a Linux techie, but to me a computer is a computer. I am both willing and HAVE sat here literally for as long as it took to adjust, tweak and customize whatever I wanted things to be.
On my main system, I did a fresh install with antiX-19a1-full-x64, then “migrated” my 17.4.1 system to it when my old HP laptop died, and have been doing “sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade” almost nightly since then.
The super safe, reliable and supportable path is just to install and copy in your “stuff” from your previous system, but that doesn’t mean its the only choice.
I will probably migrate my main system this weekend myself, by cleaning up my /home, making sure I have all my non /home modifications cleanly organized in a folder off /home, then backing up the whole filesystem via iso-snapshot, then burning it to a flashdrive as a backup, and then doing my aptik packagecomp routine to save, and then a fresh install ON A DIFFERENT MACHINE, followed by a packagecomp selective install of most missing packages, and then an overlay from the /home aptik backup, and a resync of my non /home modifications. I will do that just to have a known “clean” antiX-19 system with my specific modifications from that point forward ON THAT OTHER MACHINE. I hope that I will be happy I did that. I will test it on my spare laptop till its a waste of time, and THEN migrate the result back to my main machine by making a 2nd snapshot of the new system and burning it as well, giving me 2 levels of backups if I get in trouble later…
Can you tell that I’ve goofed it up before? I try to learn from my mistakes each time, so the next one is a little better…
- This reply was modified 3 years, 6 months ago by BobC.
Ok I know I should simply copy files that are necessary to fresh copy but I am lazy. I am new to antiX so I have been setting up 19 beta as my future everyday linux. Did not want to waste time setting up 17.3 and then copying files to 19. So I used 19 beta to setup everything.
I will install fresh 19 and copy files slowly from beta. I made a lot of changes in beta; not sure I remember all of them. Probably will forget 1 or 2. Why takes notes? 😉 Trying to avoid doing work. I have a lot of technical things I want to do in terms of programming. I just want a machine that just works.
Fun playing with linux but there comes a point where you just want it to work and do other things. My next goal learn BASH.
To BobC and rest of you for your input to my question thank you. BobC you are correct I am trying to learn more about Linux in general but am really focusing on AntiX for the most part. As i think I’ve said in other posts I’ve looking into other distro’s and for some reason I keep coming back to this one. I think it has a good balance between just works and room to tweaking a little without losing your mind. To answer your question BobC I don’t have a spare computer to just test on (wish I did) all my units are being used for as production units, I’ve been reading everyones input on this post and others about AntiX 19 and have decided to stay with Antix 17 for now as 19 seems to have a few minor issues to be worked out. I have all the units I use tweaked and working just the way I need them too. Antix 17 is supported until 2022, and once I see that things have settled down with 19 and how people fixed their issues (I know most of it is hardware) I will grab the least used machine and take a run at it. Again many thanks for everyone help and to Anticapitalista and the other developers that work on this os for putting out such a great and reliable os.
noman01, We didn’t mean to scare you. Yes, I have tried many and kept coming back to antiX too. Anyway, it seems overly conservative to plan on waiting 2 yrs. Do you have a spare drive you can put in or attach via USB, or even a fast flashdrive?
Not sure where you are, but here, a used but fast SSD with 16 gb mounted in a USB 3.0 adapter box would be under $20 total including shipping, and that would be plenty big and fast for antiX19.
What gets difficult is when you have made changes to the scripts, to get that all moved and working on a different system. If you are tweaking setups, saving and restoring the home folder after loading the programs will likely work if its the same programs.
If you are not changing the system itself, it isn’t difficult to copy your documents and files from one to another.
You didn’t scare me off and yes I’m conservative on my computer systems, however that being said I am open to new ideas. I’m in the U.S. and will take your ideas and try them out and see how things go and learn at the same time. Thanks.
- This reply was modified 3 years, 6 months ago by Noman01.
Good to hear. Its good to experiment, but even better if done with minimal risk.
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