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      I am trying to install directly from USB 2.0 flash 8GB drive to an USB 2.0 drive that is 119GB. I manually formatted the partitions because the installer would not do the formatting. I have it all formatted so it should now install. I know USB 2.0 is slower but I don’t see why it wont install directly to the drive. The displayed screen will not move off 2%. I know I can use it with persistence but would rather do a complete normal install. Any suggestions you may have are welcome.

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        Disable automounting, as explained here:

        Tip for new Linux users.
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        1) “Favorite Applications” icon
        2) “Control Center”
        3) “Disks”
        4) “Configure Automount” icon
        5) Below the line “Open Default File Manager on Mount”, you must disable the little check box (uncheck the box) “USB devices”.

        I restart the installer.

        The reason is installing on an external mountable device. If auto-mounting is enable, the system will try to mount it when the installer tries to format it, so it doesn’t get to do it properly.

        It is my experience that antiX runs faster on live+persistence than when installed on a USB device. The disadvantage is having to set up persistence and having to remaster from time to time, so I understand if other prefer installed vs live.

        antiX Live system enthusiast.
        General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.

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          Okay and I looked up how to fool your PC into thinking a USB flash drive is an internal HDD. I didn’t find anything yet but there has to be a solution.

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            suggestion (untested)

            prior to running the installer,

            sudo mkdir /mnt/squishy
            sudo mount /dev/sdx1 /mnt/squishy

            (or sdx2, whatever is the appropriate target partition)

            then launch the installer and check whether it permits you to select that partition as the installation target.

            ref:

            http://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?p=636888#p636888
            Topic: MX Live USB + persistence vs Full destination install to USB
            Post by Adrian » May 17, 2021

            [..]
            it won’t fail if USB device is named something else on a different computer /dev/sdc vs. /dev/sdb
            [..]

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              Here is the result

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                a next troubleshooting step would be:
                attempt replicating the problem using another (but identically formatted(exfat, whatever) device
                ~~ ruleout the possibility that specific device is somehow flawed.

                or, using same stick, perform the formatting operation _again_
                ~~ ruleout the possibility that some fluke occurred during the operation.
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                >>> I manually formatted the partitions
                We haven’t heard how, exactly, you did so.
                (the exact command string used, or the series of steps taken using cfdisk, or gparted or ???)

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                  I formatted the partitions with GParted on a local install of Linux on a different machine. They had to be partitioned one at a time manually.

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                    I have tried several times with several devices. There is nothing wrong with this USB stick. This one has a larger capacity and is 119GB neither it nor any of the other ones would work. I think there is a limitation of some kind in the way that it is mounted or the way the iso is formatted. It is designed to search for an internal drive and probably looks at the location as one that it cannot use so it doesn’t(just conjecture on my part). As far as I can tell all installers for any distro are limited in the same way. It may have something to do with the Kernel perhaps? I was hopeful that AntiX would be different because it is not so light that it’s useless nor, so heavy that it would slow down response time. Nevertheless I would be nice to have a distro that would just install.

                    I think the way I am going to overcome this is to partition my physical hdd and add AntiX then CP /dev/sdaX /dev/sdb. Then I will partition /sdb to add a swap to speed the USB response time.

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                      Try formatting the usb drive manually with gparted and using the cli-installer as root from terminal.
                      It seems there is an issue with making the home partition in the terminal output in the background of your one screen shot but I cannot tell what it is.
                      When you say they had to be partitioned one at a time, does this mean individual usb drives or individual partitions?

                      Computers are like air conditioners. They work fine until you start opening Windows. ~Author Unknown

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                        … As far as I can tell all installers for any distro are limited in the same way. It may have something to do with the Kernel perhaps? …

                        No.

                        Disco /dev/sdc: 14.45 GiB, 15518924800 bytes, 30310400 sectores
                        Modelo de disco: DataTraveler 3.0
                        Unidades: sectores de 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
                        Tamaño de sector (lógico/físico): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
                        Tamaño de E/S (mínimo/óptimo): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
                        Tipo de etiqueta de disco: dos
                        Identificador del disco: 0xafcd8f74
                        
                        Disposit.  Inicio Comienzo    Final Sectores Tamaño Id Tipo
                        /dev/sdc1  *          2048 30298589 30296542  14.4G 83 Linux
                        sdc                                                                                 
                        └─sdc1 btrfs   
                        uname -a
                        Linux berbellon 5.12.6-arch1-1 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun, 23 May 2021 00:45:50 +0000 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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                          IsaacM wrote:
                          I think the way I am going to overcome this is to partition my physical hdd and add AntiX then CP /dev/sdaX /dev/sdb. Then I will partition /sdb to add a swap to speed the USB response time.

                          I tried the method of installing to USB directly from an installed linux system some time ago.
                          I copied a partitioning scheme from a fresh linux install, before doing that I had forgotten efi boot was needed on some nmachines. Mine for one and was unable to boot.

                          Setup partitions on the stick with G Parted then installed, found the system far slower than running antiX live directly, same machine same USB 2 port. I also ran sparky same way for a few hours then went back to the live running.

                          Now I only rarely boot in to an installed system, just use a HDD or another stick for data storage, preferably HDD due to the generaly more graceful fail mode they display.
                          Live stick is also highly portable which is another advantage. I do not use the major persistence options, just remaster after software installs or updates.

                          Biggest hurdle to running live is preselected entry to setup, it takes a bit of time for any new user to realise that the system needs first menu entry, at least on Bullseye runit. Then live boot is about as fast as from internal drive.

                          A swap partition on HDD is really only neccesary if you have heavy applications or a low ram system. My 2GB Ram netbook only rarely goes in to swapping, same goes for
                          desktop box.

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