USBLive – Why is it not possible to get the right keyboard directly for Belgium?

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  • #51401
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    XecureXecure

    Please find a screenshot – there isn’t a flag in systray.

    The flag only appears when there are two or more keyboard layouts selected. As anticapitalista stated, selecting any language (other than US english) will set their corresponding keyboard layout and the US keyboard layout just in case (making it 2), so the flag will appear.

    #51402
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    AvatarWallon

    Dear Xecure,

    I read your wiki and you did a fantastic job.

    But you didn’t read my post 51362, I’m not able to use my keyboard to type correctly in boot options.
    For example, I tried to type the code “kbd=be”.
    I have this “kbd/be” on my screen using my keyboard.
    My “=” key is not recognized by Antix and gives the “/” sign.

    An other example, if I want to type the password “demo”, I have on my screen “de;o”. My “m” key is not recognized by Antix and gives the “;” sign.

    #51403
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    AvatarWallon

    Dear Xecure,

    This is not specific to Belgium.
    On Wikipedia, several countries do not use a Qwerty keyboard.
    Some countries use QwertZ, Azerty or other national keyboards.
    To type in the boot options, you must use a keyboard 100% compatible with Querty.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AZERTY
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTZ

    • This reply was modified 2 months, 1 week ago by Wallon.
    #51405
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    XecureXecure

    But you didn’t read my post 51362, I’m not able to use my keyboard to type correctly in boot options.

    You have the same problem I have on live boot screen. I don’t own a US keyboard, and had to check the US keyboard layout (search “US keyboard layout” image) to figure out where “=” and “_” are.
    In my keyboard, I need to hit “¡” to get “=” and “?” to get “_”, as those keys take the position in US keyboards.

    It is a limitation of the boot screens (you cannot change the keyboard layout on the fly).
    For LEGACY_BIOS boots, there are at least menus for most things (not for keyboard though), but EUFI boot you cannot see the options until you enter the text menus (no keyboard layout selection either).

    antiX is one of the few that have such advanced boot options, and that limits us to looking up the US keyboard layout.

    For having to introduce the user password for changing the keyboard layout, could an exception be added in the sudoers file for the live demo user?

    #51406
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    AvatarWallon

    F2 Language =
    English US -> no flag in systray
    English UK -> no flag in systray
    English AU -> no flag in systray
    English NZ -> no flag in systray
    How to install English edition without using the keyboard not compatible with Qwerty in the boot options ?

    #51407
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    anticapitalistaanticapitalista

    Which live linux distro correctly recognizes your be keyboard?

    Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

    antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

    #51408
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    anticapitalistaanticapitalista

    F2 Language =
    English US -> no flag in systray
    English UK -> no flag in systray
    English AU -> no flag in systray
    English NZ -> no flag in systray
    How to install English edition without using the keyboard not compatible with Qwerty in the boot options ?

    If user chooses any English version, there will not be any flag in the systray.

    You still haven’t provided what I asked in #post-51310 – never mind i see it now – boot with any be option from F2 and post the output of that log.

    • This reply was modified 2 months, 1 week ago by anticapitalista. Reason: added info
    • This reply was modified 2 months, 1 week ago by anticapitalista.

    Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

    antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

    #51415
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    AvatarWallon

    Here it is the full detail of /var/log/live/live-init.log for F2 Language French BE


    Wed Feb 3 08:06:09 EST 2021 /live/etc/init.d/live-usb-save
    live-usb-save: Restore state information
    Restore machine specific state file /etc/adjtime
    Restore machine specific state file /etc/default/numlockx
    Restore machine specific state file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
    Restore machine specific state file /var/lib/alsa/asound.state
    Restore machine specific state file /var/lib/connman/ethernet_4ccc6a4ad99a_cable/data
    Restore machine specific state file /var/lib/connman/ethernet_4ccc6a4ad99a_cable/settings
    Restore machine specific state file /var/lib/connman/settings

    Wed Feb 3 08:06:10 EST 2021 /live/etc/init.d/live-L10n
    live-L10n: Régionalisation de la console et du fuseau horaire
    Configurer le fuseau horaire et l'heure locale sur Europe/Brussels
    Configuration de la locale sur fr_BE.UTF-8
    Configuration de la console pour un clavier be2-latin1

    Wed Feb 3 14:06:11 CET 2021 /live/etc/init.d/live-init
    live-init: Localisation/configuration de X-Windows
    Charger le microcode
    Création d'un fichier d'erreur pour antiX 19.3 (Manolis Glezos) 64-bit
    make-fstab: Create new /etc/fstab
    make-fstab: Put 6 hard drive entries into /etc/fstab
    make-fstab: Put 1 removable entry into /etc/fstab
    Localisation des dépôts source en utilisant Europe/Brussels
    Localisation des menus de /live/etc/init.d/live-init dans /etc/skel
    Réglage de xkb-layout sur be,fr,us
    Recherche des modules vidéo matériel spécifiques...
    Module(s) vidéo KMS trouvé(s) nouveau
    Utilisateur par défaut demo trouvé
    Répertoire /home/demo en cours de remplissage

    Wed Feb 3 14:06:15 CET 2021 /live/etc/init.d/live-disable-services
    live-disable-services: Customizing services
    Disabling Virtual Box service
    Disabling some services (L, lean)
    Disabling more services (X, Xtralean)

    #51416
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    anticapitalistaanticapitalista

    Configuration de la console pour un clavier be2-latin1

    Is that not what your keyboard should use? If not, what should it be?

    Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

    antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

    #51419
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    anticapitalistaanticapitalista

    Dear Xecure,

    This is not specific to Belgium.
    On Wikipedia, several countries do not use a Qwerty keyboard.
    Some countries use QwertZ, Azerty or other national keyboards.
    To type in the boot options, you must use a keyboard 100% compatible with Querty.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AZERTY
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTZ

    Not true.
    Use F2 option, choose a language that uses qwerty, or qwertz or azerty abd then type.

    BTW – the letter ‘m’ on a Belgian keyboard is the key to the right of ‘l’ and it works just fine.

    Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

    antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

    #51444
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    Avatarskidoo

    I just tested the new package in an installed system and still the first flag displayed is US flag (even if no US keyboard was set). I need to hit a key for the flag to automatically change. Same behavior as before.
    I wouldn’t worry too much about it. There aren’t that many people that use multiple keyboards

    moments ago I read your post mentioning “bootmenu [..] non-querty [..] I need to press the “=” key to get…”
    ouch! (prior to reading that, I was completely unaware of the boot screen limitation)

    my mod added what seemed to be the most likely keymap-related event name.
    A solution may just be a matter of identifying and listening for the correct name
    https://github.com/nonpop/xkblayout-state/blob/master/XKeyboard.cpp
    Instead of XkbMapNotify, the only other eventname I can now suggest trying is KeymapNotify

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