USBLive – Why is it not possible to get the right keyboard directly for Belgium?

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  • #51401
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      Please find a screenshot – there isn’t a flag in systray.

      The flag only appears when there are two or more keyboard layouts selected. As anticapitalista stated, selecting any language (other than US english) will set their corresponding keyboard layout and the US keyboard layout just in case (making it 2), so the flag will appear.

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        Dear Xecure,

        I read your wiki and you did a fantastic job.

        But you didn’t read my post 51362, I’m not able to use my keyboard to type correctly in boot options.
        For example, I tried to type the code “kbd=be”.
        I have this “kbd/be” on my screen using my keyboard.
        My “=” key is not recognized by Antix and gives the “/” sign.

        An other example, if I want to type the password “demo”, I have on my screen “de;o”. My “m” key is not recognized by Antix and gives the “;” sign.

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          Dear Xecure,

          This is not specific to Belgium.
          On Wikipedia, several countries do not use a Qwerty keyboard.
          Some countries use QwertZ, Azerty or other national keyboards.
          To type in the boot options, you must use a keyboard 100% compatible with Querty.
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AZERTY
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTZ

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            But you didn’t read my post 51362, I’m not able to use my keyboard to type correctly in boot options.

            You have the same problem I have on live boot screen. I don’t own a US keyboard, and had to check the US keyboard layout (search “US keyboard layout” image) to figure out where “=” and “_” are.
            In my keyboard, I need to hit “¡” to get “=” and “?” to get “_”, as those keys take the position in US keyboards.

            It is a limitation of the boot screens (you cannot change the keyboard layout on the fly).
            For LEGACY_BIOS boots, there are at least menus for most things (not for keyboard though), but EUFI boot you cannot see the options until you enter the text menus (no keyboard layout selection either).

            antiX is one of the few that have such advanced boot options, and that limits us to looking up the US keyboard layout.

            For having to introduce the user password for changing the keyboard layout, could an exception be added in the sudoers file for the live demo user?

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              F2 Language =
              English US -> no flag in systray
              English UK -> no flag in systray
              English AU -> no flag in systray
              English NZ -> no flag in systray
              How to install English edition without using the keyboard not compatible with Qwerty in the boot options ?

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                Which live linux distro correctly recognizes your be keyboard?

                Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

                antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

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                  F2 Language =
                  English US -> no flag in systray
                  English UK -> no flag in systray
                  English AU -> no flag in systray
                  English NZ -> no flag in systray
                  How to install English edition without using the keyboard not compatible with Qwerty in the boot options ?

                  If user chooses any English version, there will not be any flag in the systray.

                  You still haven’t provided what I asked in #post-51310 – never mind i see it now – boot with any be option from F2 and post the output of that log.

                  • This reply was modified 2 years, 3 months ago by anticapitalista. Reason: added info
                  • This reply was modified 2 years, 3 months ago by anticapitalista.

                  Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

                  antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

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                    Here it is the full detail of /var/log/live/live-init.log for F2 Language French BE


                    Wed Feb 3 08:06:09 EST 2021 /live/etc/init.d/live-usb-save
                    live-usb-save: Restore state information
                    Restore machine specific state file /etc/adjtime
                    Restore machine specific state file /etc/default/numlockx
                    Restore machine specific state file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
                    Restore machine specific state file /var/lib/alsa/asound.state
                    Restore machine specific state file /var/lib/connman/ethernet_4ccc6a4ad99a_cable/data
                    Restore machine specific state file /var/lib/connman/ethernet_4ccc6a4ad99a_cable/settings
                    Restore machine specific state file /var/lib/connman/settings

                    Wed Feb 3 08:06:10 EST 2021 /live/etc/init.d/live-L10n
                    live-L10n: Régionalisation de la console et du fuseau horaire
                    Configurer le fuseau horaire et l'heure locale sur Europe/Brussels
                    Configuration de la locale sur fr_BE.UTF-8
                    Configuration de la console pour un clavier be2-latin1

                    Wed Feb 3 14:06:11 CET 2021 /live/etc/init.d/live-init
                    live-init: Localisation/configuration de X-Windows
                    Charger le microcode
                    Création d'un fichier d'erreur pour antiX 19.3 (Manolis Glezos) 64-bit
                    make-fstab: Create new /etc/fstab
                    make-fstab: Put 6 hard drive entries into /etc/fstab
                    make-fstab: Put 1 removable entry into /etc/fstab
                    Localisation des dépôts source en utilisant Europe/Brussels
                    Localisation des menus de /live/etc/init.d/live-init dans /etc/skel
                    Réglage de xkb-layout sur be,fr,us
                    Recherche des modules vidéo matériel spécifiques...
                    Module(s) vidéo KMS trouvé(s) nouveau
                    Utilisateur par défaut demo trouvé
                    Répertoire /home/demo en cours de remplissage

                    Wed Feb 3 14:06:15 CET 2021 /live/etc/init.d/live-disable-services
                    live-disable-services: Customizing services
                    Disabling Virtual Box service
                    Disabling some services (L, lean)
                    Disabling more services (X, Xtralean)

                    #51416
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                      Configuration de la console pour un clavier be2-latin1

                      Is that not what your keyboard should use? If not, what should it be?

                      Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

                      antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

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                        Dear Xecure,

                        This is not specific to Belgium.
                        On Wikipedia, several countries do not use a Qwerty keyboard.
                        Some countries use QwertZ, Azerty or other national keyboards.
                        To type in the boot options, you must use a keyboard 100% compatible with Querty.
                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AZERTY
                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTZ

                        Not true.
                        Use F2 option, choose a language that uses qwerty, or qwertz or azerty abd then type.

                        BTW – the letter ‘m’ on a Belgian keyboard is the key to the right of ‘l’ and it works just fine.

                        Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

                        antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

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                          I just tested the new package in an installed system and still the first flag displayed is US flag (even if no US keyboard was set). I need to hit a key for the flag to automatically change. Same behavior as before.
                          I wouldn’t worry too much about it. There aren’t that many people that use multiple keyboards

                          moments ago I read your post mentioning “bootmenu [..] non-querty [..] I need to press the “=” key to get…”
                          ouch! (prior to reading that, I was completely unaware of the boot screen limitation)

                          my mod added what seemed to be the most likely keymap-related event name.
                          A solution may just be a matter of identifying and listening for the correct name
                          https://github.com/nonpop/xkblayout-state/blob/master/XKeyboard.cpp
                          Instead of XkbMapNotify, the only other eventname I can now suggest trying is KeymapNotify

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