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Barrowman
I am running Mint 20.3 on my main computer but would like to try Antix on an old netbook which currently has Mint 18 on it. So I would like to create a full install usb stick but the installer says to use the image rather than the full install. Can I do a full install or not?
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rokytnji
Not sure why you wanna run antiX off of usb stick instead of internal hardrive on a unknown old netbook.
Yeah. Full install can go on usb stick.
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How to Search for AntiX solutions to your problemsThanks but I don’t. I do want the full version to install on the hard disc once I know it works.
I only came across this when I read my latest copy of Linux Format which has a section “Distro Watch” which is reviewing it this time. Mint works but is slow so i thought I would try Antix.rokytnji
Well. I usually use on my computers running antiX the live usb maker tool.
https://mxlinux.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/mx-live-usb-maker-overall.png
Easier to find the MX version but they look and work the same.
I have been having good luck with balena etcher also. I used that to burn a chromeos recovery image to usb drive.
Yeah. I usually put a live full antiX iso on usb drive and run it live. Makes for a good toolbox.
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How to Search for AntiX solutions to your problems
punranger
It depends somewhat on what you mean by “full install”. You can create a bootable antiX USB in Linux Mint if you so wish, any distro should be able to make a bootable USB of any distro, as long as you have the ISO you want. The default antiX USB Live is great, you should be able to form a good impression by using it. The USB is typically a little slower than a regular install, that’s all. But the antiX USB is “static” by default, so any changes you make on the USB, such as settings or added programs are lost when you reboot. If you want the USB to function like a regular hard drive install where settings carry over on reboots, you need to set up the persistence option. The persistence option is great, but it is a little more complicated, and is for technical reasons a little slower in some respects than the static USB. For a first time user, I would recommend just testing out with a regular (static) live USB.
antiX linux: The best way to revive an old computer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCTaUAP6sSg
PPC
I would like to create a full install usb stick but the installer says to use the image rather than the full install.
I do want the full version to install on the hard disc once I know it works.
Hi! If I understood you correctly, you seem to be a bit confused on how a live Linux Distribution, such as antiX works – it’s the same as Mint – you burn the Operating System’s to cd/dvd or to an USB drive, using specialized software, like Balena Etcher, etc (you can’t just copy the .iso file to a drive). Then you boot your computer and have to have it configured to boot straight from de cd/dvd/pen drive (you may have to press F11 or some other key that may be indicated in your screen, when you power your computer, to access the options that allow you to boot to your live media, newer systems may have to disable safe boot options, etc). Booting antiX from live media is (usually) a bit slower than booting from your hard drive, but you do get almost exactly the same system as you have once its installed. Check the system out, see if you like it. If you do, then you choose, from antiX’s menu, the option to install it to hard drive (keeping other existing partitions or wiping them clean and install antiX to the entire hard drive). Please read the sticky posts here in the forum, or you’ll probably feel a bit lost in antiX – specially, try out zzzfm File Manager (that is installed by default in antiX’s full .iso), if you seem so confused with how to install antiX, probably the default file manager (rox-filer) will seem to alien to you.
antiX is faster than Mint, but also very different, at first!
So, once you manage to boot into antiX live System, I advise you to do this:
Menu > Desktops > Other Desktops > zzz-icewm: that way you get a more conformable File Manager and also get to have Desktop icons- I wish I knew that when I started using antiX!Edited to correct typos and add a few details (because I realized this post is a pretty concise description of how recording antiX’s iso to a live media and then booting from it, then installing, if the user is so inclined)
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Thanks everyone for your input.
I believe there is some confusion. I have been running Linux since slackware 4.?? and have gone through versions of Redhat, Mandrake, Suse then Ubuntu until Canonical tried their use on anyting fit and swapped to Mint.
What I was trying to ask was to do with using the installer which said Full for Antix and the other option for all other Linux Distros see the screenshot.
I would normally use Balena Etcher so I guess I can use it for this.Attachments:
@PPC,
Thanks for your suggestions. I’m happy to explore it. In the past I ran DSL and Puppy on an old Pentium so I’m not worried about Antix being different, those 2 certainly are different to most regular Distros :<)
caprea
“For distros other than antiX/MX use image mode dd”
This statement refers to the downloaded ISO file that is used. Is the iso image file antiX or MX you can choose the full-featured mode.
I hope I understood your question right.
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hello
ISO antix_full full is in the iso name.
create media live usb Mode Image [dd].
run live media, Installer, where full install can mean
a jargon of not frugal, or full install can mean Use Entire disk.
.Fully Enjoy your new system.I’m happy to explore it
I hope this means you successfully booted to antiX live USB. One of antiX’s greatest strenghts is, that if you run it from a USB port/drive that’s fast enough, you have a perfectly usable system, without the need to use your hard drive, that’s fully portable- you take not only your documents with you, on your pendrive, but an entire system. If you don’t use persistence, it’s perfect for using homebanking in the most secure way possible, since it’s an amnesic and immutable system- every time you boot from it, you get a virgin, untouched version (and yet, you can access your documents from it!
Edit: Also the thread’s title: “using installer tool on other distros” is in part responsable for the confusion on the initial replies- it probably should be something along the line of “How do I create an antiX’s bootable pendrive using another distro?”
In tech, as in most things in life, it pays, knowing exactly how to phrase a question. Here in Portugal we have comic tv add of a guy going to a store and saying he wants the “thingie that connects to the thingie”. In real life that perfectly valid sentence would get the guy nothing but a blank stare… 🙂P.
- This reply was modified 5 months, 4 weeks ago by PPC.
Edit: Also the thread’s title: “using installer tool on other distros” is in part responsable for the confusion on the initial replies- it probably should be something along the line of “How do I create an antiX’s bootable pendrive using another distro?”
Yes I guess that would have made a difference. Sadly I’m not as sharp as I was. Being 79 now I’m feeling my age both physically and mentally.
rokytnji
I.m no spring chicken either so I can relate. Once you get going. Check out our usb tools in full iso.
Easiest persistent usb I have ever made. I hate making casperrw partitions. Then figure how out to get your live install to use it.
Like mentioned earlier . Persistent usb is not lighting fast., USB ports can be choke points as far as I know.
Slackel, SaliX, and Slax is all I ever ran for a while. Till I settled down here. SLax back in the day. Had that neat tool to build your own iso online using your browser. Kernel choices. Desktop environments. Music and movie player choices. The works. That was in the past though. Times have changed.
Believe or not. I repaired a touchscreen asus 2021 laptop. Sata connection was toast. Persistent usb saved that laptop for further use at a cheap cost.
It slowed it down though. Been wondering if external sdd drive taped to the outside in back of laptop and hooked through usb port would be speedier.Glad to see another Long time linux user here on the forum. Cuz I am just a uneducated scooter tramp. I make a lot of mistakes. No worries.
I have broad shoulders. I can shoulder them.
Have fun on this forum. We are a forgiving bunch here. Not many high hats.Sometimes I drive a crooked road to get my mind straight.
Not all who Wander are Lost.
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How to Search for AntiX solutions to your problemsModdIt
Another way, create a fully working antiX live USB stick using an android phone.
You can get an excellent application called iso 2 usb from fdroid store.
Install itDownload an antiX iso to phone
Use an adapter to connect a USB stick to phone
Write to stickThat has never failed me up to now. No risk of a write using dd killing a local drive
that way. Recently a user confused drive id`s, result not nice.- This reply was modified 5 months, 4 weeks ago by ModdIt.
Robin
I believe all the trouble was caused by the imprecise wording in the GUI of Live USB maker tool.
“For distros other than antiX/MX use image mode dd”
This statement refers to the downloaded ISO file that is used. Is the iso image file antiX or MX you can choose the full-featured mode.It should read “For ISOs of distros other than antiX/MX use image mode dd” instead.
The reason for this is actually quite simple: The antiX and MX ISOs are specially crafted to be able to run in the “fully featured mode”, while this will simply fail when trying to apply the very procedure to ISOs of other distros. So you can only use the DD mode for these. But you can use this DD mode also for antiX and MX ISOs, with the drawback not to be able to profit from the advanced fully featured mode then, having created a dumb CD/DVD like device only.
excellent application called iso 2 usb from fdroid store
Many thanks for this valuable piece of information, ModdIt.
In the sense of the above said, does this tool create a device in fully featured mode or does it create a dumb 1:1 copy of the ISO to the USB-stick?Windows is like a submarine. Open a window and serious problems will start.
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