WARNING!

[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

I’m going to be adding some experimental debs for runit in the antiX bullseye/testing/sid dev repo soon.
Make sure it is disabled (it is by default) otherwise you might hose your system.

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Thanks for the warning.

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The warning now applies to all users running default antiX-21 with default bullseye repos (and for those using testing/sid repos).

The debs haven’t hit the repos yet – they will soon, but when upgrading/dist-upgrading PAY ATTENTION. Read before pressing Enter.

I have tested the upgrade on antiX-21 full with sysvinit and runit (installed and running frugal) without issue.

For runit users, once the upgrade has finished, you should reconfigure your runit services by using the runit-service-manager.sh tool (Many thanks to Xecure for writing such a great little tool).

Once the debs appear in the repos, if you are not sure what to do, post here for assistance.

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anticapitalista wrote:

PAY ATTENTION. Read before pressing Enter.

Will it be well translated into all languages for ordinary users?

[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

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Wallon wrote:

anticapitalista wrote:

PAY ATTENTION. Read before pressing Enter.

Will it be well translated into all languages for ordinary users?

Using apt dist-upgrade in a localised terminal should show the message in that localised language.

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Hi anticapitalista,

Thanks for the warning.

What identifies these packages as your special ones? Will these packages be have a standard “code” (like nosystemd or antix are for packages customized for antiX)? Will they all be authored by you ?

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Hallo anticapitalista,
it would be nice to know warning for what,
some users have very poor eyesight, others need help with any technical content.

And all need reliably working systems for School and University which is why we are running antiX,
we came here after a series of breaking updates which wreaked havoc among kids in secondary education.
Have been very thankful not to experience those kind of issues for a long time.

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All antiX packages are signed by me and will have the suffix nosystemd or antix.

I have updated all my installations and frugal set ups without issue.
Of course if any user has a frankenantiX (eg ppa repos, mixed stable/testing/sid repos), all bets are off.

What warnings? I mean obvious ones where apt dist-upgrade shows a lot of removals.
Users can simulate the install with

apt dist-upgrade -s

For runit, 4 packages will get removed (system-config-printer, runit-services-core-antix, runit-services-base-antix and runit-services-full-antix)
For sysVinit, systemd-config-printer will be removed.
If user needs it, wait for new system-config-printer debs to hit the repos

If anyone is using a desktop environment like lxde that requires policykit-1, do not use the version of policykit in dev.
If you do, you will get what happens in this thread.

https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/gdbus-error-lxde/

Once again, if you are not sure, post here first.

• This reply was modified 1 year, 4 months ago by anticapitalista. Reason: added more info
• This reply was modified 1 year, 4 months ago by anticapitalista. Reason: Revised info about system-config-printer

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wait for new system-config-printer debs to hit the repos

Thanks anticapitalista, above is very important for users,
schools and university demand nicely printed documents.

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anticapitalista wrote:

For runit, 4 packages will get removed (system-config-printer, runit-services-core-antix, runit-services-base-antix and runit-services-full-antix)

Did you actually mean to remove system-config-printer?
I have upgraded my antiX 21 Runit and this upgrade did not remove it… It did remove the three runit-services-* though.
The entire kaboodle did a variety of upgrades, including bluetooth set. I did not see anything in need to reconfigure among runit services. Nothing out of ordinary it seems, so is there anything in particular to pay attention to?

My brief testing after the entire upgrade:
All seems to work as expected (as before). This means what worked before seems to work now, including printing – tested on two network connected printers (HP Color Laser Jet 4550 and Xerox Phaser 3635MFP).
No adverse affect noticed so far. JWM 2.40 appers to work fine, as before.
Whatever did not work before continues so after upgrade, which is specifically issue connecting bluetooth to headset, in spite of bluetooth set upgrade, but I do not think it is antiX related issue in this case.
Testing performance (memory footprint in particular) still ahead of my testing.

• This reply was modified 1 year, 4 months ago by olsztyn.

Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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If dev repo is enabled (it shouldn’t be for most users) then system-config-printer will not get removed.
If dev repo is enabled, then it will upgrade to a newer version of policykit-1 which will bring back the gdbus.error in LXDE.
Newer builds of system-config-printer should work with policykit-1 in main repo so no need to use the dev repo.

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anticapitalista wrote:

f dev repo is enabled (it shouldn’t be for most users) then system-config-printer will not get removed.

Dev repo is not enabled in my case. Still system-config-printer did not get removed…
I performed this upgrade on two instances of antiX21 Runit with the same result. I will further investigate this issue…

Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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Since this recent change appeared to be significant (cleanup or streamlining?) I had to perform some rudimentary check on memory footprint, to make sure nothing adverse to antiX has been implemented.
Testing result:
Apart from some small variations it looks like the initial memory footprint seems in line from previous composition. Very strangely (positive obseration) though, in real operation (browser open with one tab) the memory footprint appears to be noticeably smaller now. Also after shutting down browser, memory recovery appears to be slightly better now.
I notice two services – avahi and anacron starting now – this I do not know if this was a part of change or the result of my running bluez, as the only difference…
Memory footprint test performed multiple times, Used LXTask for this so far. More representative will be running HTop and PS_MEM.PY in addition, when I get more time.
However, even with such rudimentary test, this change seems to work fine and nothing bad in the background seem to have crept in…
I am curious of others’ observations…
AntiX21 Runit Live, kernel 5.10.

• This reply was modified 1 year, 4 months ago by olsztyn.
• This reply was modified 1 year, 4 months ago by olsztyn.

Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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Hello,

My feedback:
Tryed antix21_amd64_runit (with lightdm too) into a VirtualBox VM, and I have an issue at the startup of the VM, after this (apt dist-upgrade).

The start process stop at: “bound to 192.168.1.12 — renewal in 16735 seconds.”
But I can after logging to root start lightdm or slim by hand (with a dbus-daemon issue too).

Here the OCR screen capture, if it can help:

Welcome to antixX. Powered by Debian.
Anacron 2.3 started on 2821-12-23
Normal exit (@ jobs run)
invoke-run: WARNING for rsunc: disabled by local settings
Skip stopping firewall: ufw (not enabled)
invoke-run: WARNING for ufw: disabled by local settings
Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.4.1
Copyright 2464-2818 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit https: //www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
Listening on LPF/eth@/88: 64: 27: e6:24:c4
bl] Te Pe LPF /ethé/@8: 48:27: e6:24:c4
hl] Te Pe) Socket? fallback
DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.1.12 on eth@ to 255.255.255.255 port 6?
DHCPACK of 192.168.1.12 from 192.168.1.254
Reloading /etc/samba/smb.conf: smbd.
bound to 192.168.1.12 -- renewal in 16735 seconds.

Hint: Num Lock on
antix-21-64R login: root
Password:

dbus-daemon[1673]: [system] Activating service name='org.freedesktop.logini’ requested by ':1.8' Cuid=@ pid=1616 comm="/bin/login --
dbus-daemon[1673]: [system] Failed to activate service ‘org. freedesktop.logini': timed out (service_start_timeout=2540Gms)
root@antix-21-64R:~#

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sudo sv status /etc/service/*
To see what runit services are working (or not) and which are symlinked in /etc/service.
Post a picture/screenshot and we can start from there.

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