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      Hi! Relatively new to linux (been using mint primarily for a number of months) and very new to antix (computer died so I’m stuck on my old mini pc from 2012 which has ~1.75 gigs of ram. And man has antix revived it like a charm!

      I ran into a problem where discord (particularly the auto update “feature”) is too hard on my poor machine. I wanted to create a web app similar to how you would do it in mint with their web app app. I poked around in forums and such and couldn’t really find an answer to if lightweight web app makers existed that would work on antix. I tried installing the mint app from a .deb package which didn’t work, and the peppermint ice app I read was for ubuntu so I wasn’t sure it would work, or how to install it if it would.

      The question I have is if anyone knows any relatively user friendly apps out there to accomplish this task. I am running the most recent antix and use firefox for my web browser.

      And if I needed to be more specific on something or am confused please let me know, I like to learn!

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        I know what you mean regarding web apps. I’ve not seen or used them with antiX.

        I think it was Peppermint that was one of the distributions that used them but I have not seen or used them recently.

        Instead of separate pages or browser instances for each app I use multiple tabs within the same web browser; it makes sense and seems to be more efficient.

        Maybe someone else will have a suggestion for a way to do what you need.

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          I am not entirely sure what the mint way of making a web app is… if I had to guess the app is simply running the web browser in full screen mode within the webapp manager window.
          If you would like to stay with firefox you could start firefox like
          firefox --profilemanager
          and make a new profile where you would remove the tab bar, url bar, bookmarks bar, toolbar, etc. Then you could switch back to the default profile and use the profile without “toolbars” by running
          firefox -P profile_name_here
          It may require editing the userChrome.css for that profile to remove the url bar and tabs.

          Once you have your “toolbar” free firefox profile to your liking; Take the command and make a .desktop file and in the Exec line add the command with a url behind it like.
          firefox -P profile_name_here https://antixforum.com

          Alternatively
          antix-viewer https://antixforum.com

          .desktop files can be made manually in a text editor or via “add-desktop” or via “menu_manager.sh”

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            I am not entirely sure what the mint way of making a web app is… if I had to guess the app is simply running the web browser in full screen mode within the webapp manager window.
            If you would like to stay with firefox you could start firefox like…

            Thank you so much! I will do this.

            In case you are curious, the mint way is there is a built-in app called Web App Manager, which has a GUI where you set an icon, the url, and the name of the web app. It’s very simple, so I was a bit lost with what to do after migrating over to antiX.

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              I used to use Peppermint long time ago for the main reason of WebApp capability built-in. In the course of time, testing and using WebApps under Peppermint I eventually came to conclusion that I did not like the fact that the actual URL was not visible in WebApp window. Although this might have look cool, like any other desktop application, The missing URL made me think of potential security and privacy issues.
              I do not know if anything has changed since those times as I have not played with Peppermint recently.
              However in general WebApp manager, such as in Peppermint, could be installed in any Linux, including antiX, if I understood correctly the way it was implemented in Peppermint.
              Please correct me if I am wrong on this…

              Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
              https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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                I think Mint creates web apps using a fork of Ice (a program for creating .desktop files for web apps)- Yes, I just checked that information: https://www.fossmint.com/run-website-as-desktop-application/

                I usually create “webapps” using chromium derived browsers, that generate such .desktop file, that opens the webpage in a browser window, without address bar, etc…

                P.

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                  @PPC I’m pretty sure that you are right, and Dave’s explanation can accomplish virtually the same thing.

                  As @olsztyn was saying, after the initial curiosity and fascination with the idea, the practical application wears out. If you’re only doing a few things here and there it might still be nice. My personal opinion, remember that I tried it too, was that when you are just running 1 or 2 apps it’s fine but for me I want to know where I am and what I’m doing.

                  I used the Internet before the Web browsers were commonly used. Newsgroups and Email were handy; the newsgroups have been replaced by forums and Websites. Email exists but often it’s Webmail unless you work at a company, then it’s on a private network.

                  In any case you MAY use WebApps if you like. I think they’re an idea with limited appeal and limited interest. I don’t think they’re worth our development team resources personally. If you want to explore them yourself, the technology and methods are fairly well documented.

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