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  • #62538
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    rych

      I have a new Dell OptiPlex 5480 (already has a Windows on it, UEFI boot) which fails to boot a USB with the antiX-bullseye-b1-x64-full-runit: it’s stuck frozen on a black-ish screen after the “Welcome to GRUB!” screen. Same USB boots and works fine on another UEFI, old non-DELL computer. There’s no option to choose Legacy boot, but I did disable “Secure boot”. (When in Secure boot, under the “Welcome to GRUB!” there is an error message about secure boot, and on to the same frozen dark screen). Any advice?

      #62539
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      Xecure

        Hi.
        When you say

        it’s stuck frozen on a black-ish screen after the “Welcome to GRUB!” screen.

        Is this the welcome screen you are referring to?
        uefi-antix-21b-runit

        If so, you need to got to the >>> Advanced Options <<<, kernel options, and select the newer 5.10 kernel (as in the image below) which should be good for booting antiX in newer machines.
        uefi-antix-21b-runit-5-10

        If the Welcome to grub welcome screen is different, please ignore the above recommendation and provide a screenshot or photo so we may know what you are seeing.

        antiX Live system enthusiast.
        General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.

        #62547
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        marcelocripe

          Hello rych,

          Welcome to antiX Linux and the forum.

          Follow the Xecure guidelines, if it doesn’t work, try the following guidelines:

          Regardless of your level of knowledge about GNU/Linux, I recommend you read these excellent tutorials created by @PPC:

          Short essential how-to list for the complete Linux newbie and How-to install applications – 2020 version.

          I can’t write in English and I send you my texts translated by internet translator, I hope you can understand everything. Please translate into your language the texts of the sites I inform you about below.

          Is your computer, by any chance, the one in the sites below?

          http://www.dell.com/support/home/pt-br?app=products&~ck=mn

          Under “Search Support:” Enter the Dell service tag number, the Dell EMC product ID, or the model.

          http://www.dell.com/support/home/pt-br/product-support/product/optiplex-5480-aio/docs
          http://dl.dell.com/topicspdf/optiplex-5480-aio_owners-manual2_pt-br.pdf

          http://www.dell.com/community/Vostro-Laptops/Configura%C3%A7%C3%A3o-da-BIOS-para-aceitar-Pendrive-Bootavel-com-Windows/td-p/5488541

          I could not easily find all the images of your OptiPlex 5480 All-In-One BIOS on the internet, try changing the options:

          Secure Boot <Disabled>
          Load Legacy Option ROM <Enable>

          Find the option that has text similar to this “BIOS Boot Setting: Windows UEFI/Other OS” or “OS Optimized Defaults” and change “Win7” or “Win8” or “Win10” to <Other OS>, the text is similar to the Lenovo YOGA 3-1170 image
          http://support.lenovo.com/tr/pt/solutions/ht103352

          In this site it explains what you need to configure in the BIOS to install Windows 8 or 10, the idea here is to do the reverse to the one mentioned, because antiX which is a GNU/Linux distribution.

          I hope this information can be useful and help you.

          When you start any topic or participate with any post, remember to check the option “Notify me of follow-up replies via email”, by checking this option you will receive a message in your email inbox whenever there are replies to the topic in question.

          marcelocripe
          (Original text in Brazilian Portuguese)

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          Olá rych,

          Seja bem-vindo ao antiX Linux e ao fórum.

          Siga as orientações do Xecure, se não funcionar, tente as orientações a seguir:

          Independentemente do seu nível de conhecimento sobre GNU/Linux, eu recomendo você ler estes excelentes tutoriais criados pelo @PPC:

          Short essential how-to list for the complete Linux newbie e How-to install applications – 2020 version.

          Eu não sei escrever em inglês e te envio os meus textos traduzidos pelo tradutor da internet, eu espero que você consiga compreender tudo. Por favor, traduza para o seu idioma os textos dos sítios que eu te informo a seguir.

          Por acaso o seu computador é este dos sítios abaixo?

          http://www.dell.com/support/home/pt-br?app=products&~ck=mn

          Em “Pesquisar no suporte:” Digite o número da etiqueta de serviço da Dell, a ID do produto da Dell EMC ou o modelo.

          http://www.dell.com/support/home/pt-br/product-support/product/optiplex-5480-aio/docs
          http://dl.dell.com/topicspdf/optiplex-5480-aio_owners-manual2_pt-br.pdf

          http://www.dell.com/community/Vostro-Laptops/Configura%C3%A7%C3%A3o-da-BIOS-para-aceitar-Pendrive-Bootavel-com-Windows/td-p/5488541

          Eu não consegui encontrar facilmente na internet todas as imagens do seu BIOS do OptiPlex 5480 All-In-One, tente alterar as opções:

          Secure Boot <Disabled>
          Load Legacy Option ROM <Enable>

          Encontre a opção que tenha um texto semelhante a este “BIOS Boot Setting: Windows UEFI/Other OS” ou “OS Optimized Defaults” e altere “Win7” ou “Win8” ou “Win10” para <Other OS>, o texto é semelhante ao da imagem do Lenovo YOGA 3-1170 http://support.lenovo.com/tr/pt/solutions/ht103352

          Neste sítio explica o que é necessário configurar no BIOS para instalar o Windows 8 ou 10, a ideia aqui é fazer o inverso ao mencionado, pois o antiX que é uma distribuição GNU/Linux.

          Eu espero que estas informações possam ser úteis e que te ajudem.

          Quando você iniciar algum tópico ou participar com alguma postagem, lembre-se de marcar a opção “Notify me of follow-up replies via email”, marcando esta opção, você receberá uma mensagem na sua caixa de e-mail sempre que houver respostas do tópico em questão.

          marcelocripe
          (Texto original em Português do Brasil)

          #62593
          Member
          rych

            If the Welcome to grub welcome screen is different, please ignore the above recommendation and provide a screenshot or photo so we may know what you are seeing.

            I’m not getting to the any “Welcome to antiX…” yet. Allow me to describe the 2 images.

            1) an almost empty backlit black screen with nothing on it except small white letters in the upper top corner saying “Welcome to GRUB!”. It is quickly replaced by

            2) a completely empty backlit black screen, with an unresponsive keyboard

            #62594
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            marcelocripe

              I’m not getting to the any “Welcome to antiX…” yet. Allow me to describe the 2 images.

              1) an almost empty backlit black screen with nothing on it except small white letters in the upper top corner saying “Welcome to GRUB!”. It is quickly replaced by

              2) a completely empty backlit black screen, with an unresponsive keyboard

              @rych,

              With this information alone I think it will be hard for anyone to help you.
              Where did you download the antiX ISO from?
              Which antiX ISO did you download?
              Did you check the md5sum or sha256sum of the ISO?
              Did you burn the ISO to a DVD or did you prepare it on a USB stick?
              If you prepared the antiX ISO on a USB stick, what program did you use?

              See if this tutorial can be useful for you: https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/como-criar-pendrive-inicializavel-usando-o-ventoy-2/, please translate the texts into your language, the pictures are in English.

              You will certainly get help here, even from people who write and read in English, but you have to give as much detail as you can about what is asked of you. If you are not a native English speaker, please translate my Brazilian Portuguese (pt-BR) text directly into your language.

              Remember that we cannot see what is happening with your computer and that we only know what you write or send by image.

              marcelocripe

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              @rych,

              Apenas com estas informações eu acho que será difícil alguém poder te ajudar.
              Você baixou a ISO do antiX de qual sítio?
              Qual ISO do antiX você baixou?
              Você verificou o md5sum ou o sha256sum da ISO?
              Gravou a ISO em um DVD ou preparou em um dispositivo USB?
              Se você preparou em um dispositivo USB a ISO do antiX, qual programa você utilizou?

              Verifique se este tutorial pode ser útil para você: https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/como-criar-pendrive-inicializavel-usando-o-ventoy-2/, por favor traduza para o seu idioma os textos, as imagens estão em idioma inglês.

              Aqui você certamente receberá ajuda, inclusive de pessoas que escrevem e leem em inglês, mas você terá que informar com o máximo de detalhes tudo que for solicitado. Se você não for nativo do idioma inglês, por favor, traduza o meu texto em Português do Brasil (pt-BR) direto para o seu idioma, provavelmente obterá resultados melhores.

              Lembre-se que não podemos ver o que está acontecendo com o seu computador e que sabemos somente o que você escreve ou envia por imagem.

              marcelocripe

              #62823
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              seaken64

                This sounds like a UEFI/BIOS setting. Can you detail for us the exact steps you took to get to this “Welcome to Grub!” display?

                The Live USB does not usually use Grub to boot, but Isolinux or Syslinux. After the opening Isolinux menu you select from one of the choices. Which choice did you select?

                If you cannot get a Legacy boot then you need an UEFI boot. There are UEFI boot utilities that can help if you can’t get it figured out from the UEFI/BIOS settings.

                There are some folks here a lot smarter about UEFI booting than me. But start by giving us a play-by-play description of exactly what steps you are taking.

                Seaken64

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