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JesusGod-Pope666.Info
Hey hey there all… I have yet to try the system, but wanted to check out the Forum.
Trying to sort out something for a Slim Client, and looking into a lightweight system for it.You know if Windows Portable Apps can run directly on the system or if there is anyway to make Windows Portable apps work on Linux?
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rokytnji
If everything is self contained in the portable app that needs to run.
Go ahead and test for us then. See if it runs. If it ends in .exe. I don’t hold much hope
out there for you. So let’s google search and see.after searching. Looks like you need to run these using wine.
https://www.winehq.org/harry@biker:~ $ apt-cache policy wine wine: Installed: (none) Candidate: 5.0.3-3 Version table: 5.0.3-3 500 500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian bullseye/main i386 Packagesas you can see. I am not wine type of guy.
https://portableapps.com/node/60803
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_application#Portability_on_Linux_and_UNIX-like_systemsAs always. Howdy and Welcome. Have fun.
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playonlinux
PlayOnLinux is a front-end for wine. It permits you to easily install Windows Games and software on Linux. It is advised to have a functional internet connection
PPC
You know if Windows Portable Apps can run directly on the system or if there is anyway to make Windows Portable apps work on Linux?
Windows apps do not run natively in Linux, But there’s a way to run many thousands of windows apps in Linux, using Wine (that works kinda like a emulator, but not quite). Wine is the basis of Proton, the system that Valve uses to run thousands of Windows only games in Steam’s Linux version. Previous posts already mentioned tools that else some windows apps run in Wine. EDIT: Like Playonlinux (sorry, I forgot to mention that, thanks, Robin)
Last time I tried to run a Windows Portable app in Linux, years ago, I was unable to do it, but just like real wine, Wine improves with age, so it may work with your app.
Another option is runing Windows Portable Apps inside a Windows Virtual Machine, in Linux- that would get an almost 100% success rate, if your system is fast enough to virtualize Windows – try Virtualbox, with any of the freely windows available isos that MS provides – you can use those virtual machines legally.P.
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Robin
But there’s a way to run many thousands of windows apps in Linux, using Wine
Yes, this is true generally, but unfortunately it is known many applications only work in a specific wine version, or when specific patches to a specific wine version have been applied. So best advice was from user2022, not to install wine itself, but playonlinux instead. This will allow you to set up a distinctive wine environment including specific different wine versions for each windows alien program you want to run. From rokitnyis suggestion take the WineHQ App database and look up your program in this database. There you’ll get information which wine version works best with a specific windows program, and which additonal steps are needed. But first check out the prepared readymade setups playonlinux comes with for many windows applications, that could save you some manually work.
And for sure, as PPC already said: If your system has the power, just setup a virtualised windows, either using qemu or virtualbox. Then every native windows program will run fine, since it will actually run on windows, sandboxed in Linux.
Windows is like a submarine. Open a window and serious problems will start.
BobC
Windows Portable apps means they are Windows apps that you can run under Windows from a portable flashdrive inserted into a different machine, not that it can or cannot be run on any other OS other than Windows was the way I read it.
For example Notepad++
anticapitalista
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I smell spam.
Maybe, but I hope not – more people should take the trouble to register and ask in the Distro’s forum (be it ours or any other) if the OS can perform the tasks they need it to do… It would make life for people that try to help out on the forum much better!
One very good point would be: if you want to run a Windows app, then use Windows, it’s most probably the best tool for the job (not always- I had some very old games that ran better on Linux than in Windows, and there are some people, today, that are commenting that some games do run faster on Proton for Linux than in Windows).Unrelated small ramble:
The current trend to use “webapps” for every single thing if beneficial to Linux – if you run your Office suite inside a browser, then, any browser can do it, even the ones that run in Linux… The same goes for your Email client, Phototoshop, Streaming video platforms, Streaming audio platforms, Ebook on-line readers- even Streaming video games!- I used to game a bit in Stadia (there are some nice free games there, I think the platform will work until middle of January 2023). I think “Xbox” still offers the possibility of streaming games in browser and that works in Linux…
So, if your Office Suite, PhotoShop AND your games work via browser in Linux, what is keeping you from using Linux? And, to boot, you still have an Officesuite, graphics software, and games (casual or real hardcore games) that run natively in your device, no network connection, no payment required! And, with antiX, all that does work in devices that are from the last century! (I can’t testify on that myself. I think my oldest device, my Laptop is from 2003?- it still has Windows XP on it- just in case I need to run something that requires Windows, the same goes for my netbook, that came with 7 and Word pre-installed and fully licensed- occupying some GB of disk space, but that may come in handy, if I even need to run some windows only software from a long time ago…)P.
rokytnji
I smell spam.
I was wondering myself last night. But being late. I gave the benefit of the doubt. I try and not be cranky before I go to bed.
I guess time will tell. One way or the other. My post bumps this thread to the top again.Sometimes I drive a crooked road to get my mind straight.
Not all who Wander are Lost.
I'm not outa place. I'm from outer space.Linux Registered User # 475019
How to Search for AntiX solutions to your problemsJesusGod-Pope666.Info
No I’m sorting out a Slim Client (3-7 watts usage) Dell N03D for off grid use and trying to sort out the best options, I have Windows Portable applications package as well on the way, some of the details are on the website but have not finished a fully package product yet: https://jesusgod-pope666.info/portableapps.php *It’s messy I know! but it is what it is*
It would be nice if I could run these on both Windows machines AND Gnulix *Linux*.
Not sure the unit would be fast enough to emulate a windows version on top of Linux itself, it’s not a very fast unit out of the box. It can run windows 7, but it is pretty slow but running, but what to expect from a system only using in general of 3-7 watts of power compared to my Stationary beast that does 100-300 watts…
At the moment I’m looking at overall options, I have always been a portable guy from long time ago and have used this approach as it equals freedom for the user.
– Darkijah
By the way, this is the unit I have bought, sadly not been able to make it run Windows 2000 or XP but Windows 7 *WES7* with legal license although somewhat slow but working and have released it from its own DELL version and fixed a bigger harddrive and 16GB of RAM*8 GB most likely are more then enough as the CPU is lagging in power to further use them all up with apps and browser tabs* and sorted out updates and drivers although I do have issues with the Android drivers on WES7, which works fine on my legal Win7HomePrem *Hardware locked* Stationary power hungry beast but not for my WES7, everything else now works and it pretty much fully updated : https://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/wyse/3030/
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It would be nice if I could run these on both Windows machines AND Gnulix *Linux*.
You actually can do this, but I consider it to be some task for a very talented programmer. You’d need to compile all binaries in your portable package fit for execution on multiple OS types. Here you can see an example how it could be done to have executables compiled on Linux, able to run on Linux, MacOS, Windows, FreeBSD and elsewhere. Further reading.
An other approach would be to use a scripting language present on all OS you want to serve, e.g. python or go. Again, this needs high skills in programming, your script then must handle all OS specific hickups. (the way to analyze and construct paths, the way how devices are used etc)
I can tell you only from theoretical point of view, not being a programmer at all, but I know there exist such multi-os binaries and scripts. This is the basics you need before you can package it to a truely portable package, installable and usable on multiple OS.
Windows is like a submarine. Open a window and serious problems will start.
*It’s messy I know
Too messy for me to understand- but you do have lots of apps there that have their own native Linux port, that run fine in antiX – like Opera, Firefox, VLC, handbreak, audacity, etc.- you seem to already be a FOSS user- those apps run fine in Windows and Linux – some, even are available in .appimage format (Linux’s equivalent to “Portable apps”).
Edit: Robin typed faster than me- he really knows more about that subject than me, but, if I were you, I would have 2 different versions of that applist- one for Windows and other for Linux – most of the apps there run perfectly in antiX (and you can even create .appimages for those, but I do not know how to do that), like the OpenOffice.org .appimage that was made available here in the forum – I’m using it right now!
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JesusGod-Pope666.Info
I found this https://itsfoss.com/orb-linux-apps/ but that is mostly for apps on Linux, and not sure if there project is still ongoing.
But of cause looking for something that could run the windows portable apps in Linux…
I do recall years ago getting myWord to work somehow… But it needed a good amount of help and work, I had a code I used in the terminal that did make it work but that is long gone lost. I wonder what I used for that.But maybe the solution would be a windows system installed on top on Gnulix, I’m just not sure how well it will work on this little SlimClient, but I guess it is worth a try. If you can run windows apps directly in it, then I guess the Portable apps should work in it, that would be kinda awesome if so! 🙂 But the speed… I wonder… I have enough RAM at least in it to spare to such things, 16 GB in total so I should have enough of that to share.
What is the best and lightest option then for an system emulation app to do that? I guess there is only one way, and that is to try things out.
If I can’t make the Portable apps run easily inside Gnulix, then the other option might be a better idea, maybe.
There does not exist something where you can pinpoint a Gnulix app or something, to a folder of Windows Portables, and then have them all work like that running directly in Gnulix?
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What is the best and lightest option then for an system emulation
Virtualbox is the most used option, but I believe that Qemu can be configured to run almost at the native speed of the emulated system- dig around the web for info on that…
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JesusGod-Pope666.Info
And for sure, as PPC already said: If your system has the power, just setup a virtualised windows, either using qemu or virtualbox. Then every native windows program will run fine, since it will actually run on windows, sandboxed in Linux.
Yea, I think it might be the first solution to try out, if that can be done… That would be fine with me if that worked. Maybe I could even install windows 2000 pro that is very lightweight compared to Win7 and have much of it working, most although not all, apps are 32bit. I don’t think it will run nicely with WES7, as it is already slow in native installed.
I just got an idea… I wonder if there exist a lightweight version of Windows 7 for slower computers that might help me on those levels overall… I don’t know why I did not think about that weeks ago using my time getting it installed native on the slim client. If there exist a low usage version of windows 7 of some kind, that will help me on multiple levels then.
Seems there is a Lite version of Windows 7, I wonder if it is less hungry then WES7.
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