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  • #117133
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    Brian Masinick

      I started the morning with antiX 23 runit and then I updated my other systems, including my antiX 23 sysVinit instance here on the HP-14, and now I’m back with antiX 23 runit. I may not use every possible feature, but this specific instance is the easiest (and for this system) the fastest overall).

      I used to use antiX Core or Base all the time; these days it’s a bit harder to accomplish, at least on this system, but I did decide to take an antiX 23 Base image and get it going on my Dell Inspiron 5558; I now have 3 antiX installations there, all three are now antiX 23, but one of them was an antiX 21/22 release updated to antiX 23 and another was a classic antiX 23 sysVinit full, so I added an antiX 23 Base; I think those are all sysVinit, so they are “honoring” or remembering what may end up to be the last release actively running sysVinit, depending on whether we’re able to keep it in antiX 24 or whatever our next version is; I’m really looking forward to trying out s6 or dinit and wondering if one or the other will be functional enough to replace sysVinit – hopefully s6 can do that.

      I was thinking of messing around with init, but if I’m not really careful, I might totally wreck the start up procedure, so I may not take that idea forward unless I can find some solid, reproducible instructions for carefully replacing one running init type with another! In the OLD DAYS, I DEFINITELY would have taken this on, but with only a wireless configuration to work with (and maybe a bit of sneaker-net to copy stuff from one place to another), it’s not an easy endeavour! I have been willing to practically destroy stuff in the past; these days I’d rather have the time to read my Technology and Sports reports than hack and debug (or wreck and replace) a system!

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      #117135
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      Brian Masinick

        http://www.howtogeek.com/713847/the-best-linux-distributions-without-systemd/ provides a pretty good high level description of init processes, what they were originally intended to do (and do one thing, and one thing well) in the original model. It also discusses s6-Linux-init: s6 is a replacement for SysV init that tries to address the serial nature of SysV init and remain true to the Unix philosophy. If I can gain anything worthwhile from this, maybe I can get a head start on experimenting with this!

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        #117136
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        Brian Masinick

          http://skarnet.org/software/s6-linux-init/ has some information about s6-linux-init, describes
          What is it?
          s6-linux-init is a set of minimalistic tools used to create a s6-based init system, including a /sbin/init binary, on a Linux kernel. It is a part of the s6 ecosystem.

          The resulting architecture follows the Unix philosophy (one job → one tool) as closely as possible, and is fully dedicated to the s6 way of managing a system:

          s6-svscan runs as process 1 for the whole machine lifetime.
          Every daemon is supervised.
          No logs are ever lost.
          Policy is entirely left to the user. Typically, any service manager can be run on top of s6-linux-init.
          Nevertheless, the architecture is fully compliant with various empirical and historical specifications. For instance, it provides:

          utmp management compatible with sysvinit
          runlevel management, with a configurable default, overridable from the kernel command line
          sysvinit-like commands to shut the system down, including a shutdown command that follows the LSB specification

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          #117140
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          Brian Masinick

            http://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/15.0/system/s6-linux-init/README provides some initial documentation for getting started with the s6-based init system, including a /sbin/init binary, on a Linux kernel.


            “At some point in boot time, an instance of s6-svscan will become PID 1”

            Hopefully this is something that can be adopted; looking forward to seeing it in action!

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            #117141
            Moderator
            Brian Masinick

              Meanwhile, here’s what I’m using now –

              sudo ps_mem.py; pinxi -zv5
               Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program
              112.0 KiB +  16.5 KiB = 128.5 KiB	runit
              128.0 KiB +  20.5 KiB = 148.5 KiB	runsvdir
              152.0 KiB +  32.5 KiB = 184.5 KiB	seatd
              220.0 KiB +  25.5 KiB = 245.5 KiB	AppRun
              260.0 KiB + 193.5 KiB = 453.5 KiB	startup
              392.0 KiB + 101.5 KiB = 493.5 KiB	dbus-launch
              356.0 KiB + 174.5 KiB = 530.5 KiB	udevil
              364.0 KiB + 195.5 KiB = 559.5 KiB	icewm-session
              636.0 KiB + 325.5 KiB = 961.5 KiB	devmon
              736.0 KiB + 295.5 KiB =   1.0 MiB	gconfd-2
                1.0 MiB +  29.5 KiB =   1.1 MiB	ungoogled-chromium_117.0.5938.88-1.1.AppImage
              820.0 KiB + 339.5 KiB =   1.1 MiB	desktop-session
              832.0 KiB + 440.0 KiB =   1.2 MiB	getty (6)
                1.0 MiB + 273.5 KiB =   1.3 MiB	runsv (11)
                1.0 MiB + 548.5 KiB =   1.6 MiB	dbus-daemon (3)
              884.0 KiB + 789.0 KiB =   1.6 MiB	sudo (2)
                1.6 MiB + 276.5 KiB =   1.9 MiB	udevd
                2.0 MiB +  33.5 KiB =   2.0 MiB	dhclient
                1.4 MiB + 648.5 KiB =   2.1 MiB	pipewire-pulse
                1.8 MiB + 379.5 KiB =   2.2 MiB	bash
                2.6 MiB + 384.5 KiB =   3.0 MiB	dconf-service
                2.9 MiB + 559.5 KiB =   3.4 MiB	at-spi2-registryd
                4.7 MiB +  65.5 KiB =   4.8 MiB	wpa_supplicant
                4.1 MiB + 669.5 KiB =   4.8 MiB	conky
                4.2 MiB +   1.1 MiB =   5.3 MiB	slimski
                4.8 MiB + 578.5 KiB =   5.4 MiB	at-spi-bus-launcher
                5.9 MiB +   1.1 MiB =   7.1 MiB	pipewire
                5.8 MiB +   2.1 MiB =   7.9 MiB	icewm
                7.7 MiB +   1.5 MiB =   9.2 MiB	wireplumber
               18.1 MiB +   3.6 MiB =  21.7 MiB	roxterm
               23.0 MiB +  20.6 MiB =  43.7 MiB	volumeicon
               58.8 MiB +  22.8 MiB =  81.6 MiB	Xorg
              340.3 MiB + 151.6 MiB = 491.9 MiB	chrome (9)
              ---------------------------------
                                      710.4 MiB
              =================================
              System:
                Kernel: 6.1.42-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
                  v: 13.2.0 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.4.1 Distro: antiX-23-runit_x64-full Arditi
                  del Popolo 26 August 2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
              Machine:
                Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A
                  serial: <superuser required>
                Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI
                  v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021
              Battery:
                ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%)
                  volts: 12.8 min: 11.3 model: HP Primary status: not charging
              Memory:
                System RAM: total: 8 GiB note: est. available: 7.1 GiB
                  used: 970.8 MiB (13.4%)
                RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges
                  required.
              CPU:
                Info: 6-core model: AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics bits: 64
                  type: MT MCP arch: Zen 2 rev: 1 cache: L1: 384 KiB L2: 3 MiB L3: 8 MiB
                Speed (MHz): avg: 1516 high: 2100 min/max: 1400/4056 boost: enabled cores:
                  1: 1400 2: 1400 3: 1397 4: 2100 5: 1400 6: 1400 7: 1400 8: 1400 9: 1397
                  10: 1400 11: 2100 12: 1400 bogomips: 50304
                Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
              Graphics:
                Device-1: AMD Lucienne vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: amdgpu v: kernel
                  arch: GCN-5 bus-ID: 03:00.0 temp: 44.0 C
                Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera driver: uvcvideo type: USB
                  bus-ID: 1-3:3
                Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
                  unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu
                  resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
                API: EGL v: 1.4,1.5 drivers: kms_swrast,radeonsi,swrast platforms:
                  active: gbm,x11,surfaceless,device inactive: wayland
                API: OpenGL v: 4.6 vendor: amd mesa v: 22.3.6 glx-v: 1.4
                  direct-render: yes renderer: AMD Radeon Graphics (renoir LLVM 15.0.6 DRM
                  3.49 6.1.42-antix.1-amd64-smp)
              Audio:
                Device-1: AMD Renoir Radeon High Definition Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard
                  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 03:00.1
                Device-2: AMD ACP/ACP3X/ACP6x Audio Coprocessor vendor: Hewlett-Packard
                  driver: snd_rn_pci_acp3x v: kernel bus-ID: 03:00.5
                Device-3: AMD Family 17h/19h HD Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard
                  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 03:00.6
                API: ALSA v: k6.1.42-antix.1-amd64-smp status: kernel-api
                Server-1: PipeWire v: 0.3.65 status: active
              Network:
                Device-1: Realtek vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: rtw89_8852ae v: kernel
                  port: f000 bus-ID: 01:00.0
                IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
              Bluetooth:
                Device-1: Realtek Bluetooth Radio driver: btusb v: 0.8 type: USB
                  bus-ID: 1-4:4
                Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: down bt-service: disabled
                  rfk-block: hardware: no software: no address: <filter>
              Drives:
                Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 22.99 GiB (9.6%)
                ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Toshiba model: KBG40ZNV256G KIOXIA
                  size: 238.47 GiB temp: 29.9 C
                Message: No optical or floppy data found.
              Partition:
                ID-1: / size: 47.76 GiB used: 22.93 GiB (48.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3
                  label: antiX-Frugal uuid: d6047e51-d501-4884-8c95-5d7ec16a4b44
                ID-2: /boot/efi size: 1.23 GiB used: 61 MiB (4.9%) fs: vfat
                  dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 label: N/A uuid: E253-D9ED
              Swap:
                ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 7.81 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%)
                  dev: /dev/nvme0n1p6 label: N/A uuid: d5ee9225-6bf8-4ea5-9299-547b7272c289
                ID-2: swap-2 type: file size: 3 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) file: /swap/swap
              Sensors:
                System Temperatures: cpu: 48.2 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 45.0 C
                Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A
              Info:
                Processes: 242 Uptime: 1h 24m Init: runit runlevel: 2 Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0
                Packages: 1781 Shell: Bash v: 5.2.15 pinxi: 3.3.29-26

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              Brian Masinick

              #117148
              Moderator
              Brian Masinick

                Friends, I occasionally read documentation, believe it or not, and today I looked at stuff that h2 has been writing about inxi and pinxi. Over time, both of them will be moving – READ THIS:

                “Packagers: Make sure to change your package URLs and repos to use codeberg.org.

                For inxi, after version 3.3.30 is released (probably in later September, 2023),
                it’s unlikely any further updates will be mirrored to github because am redoing
                the structure of the inxi repo fundamentally, splitting it into separate repos
                for each unrelated branch like inxi-docs, inxi-perl (aka pinxi), and so on.

                pinxi has been split into its own repo, codeberg.org/smxi/pinxi. This change
                will not be mirrored to github, so that will be the cutoff point. The pinxi and
                inxi versions on github will continue to be mirrored for a while longer, and
                have the proper URLs for updaters and docs.”

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                #117149
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                Brian Masinick
                  #117152
                  Moderator
                  Brian Masinick

                    I also saw a (probably biased” chart with data about various browsers;
                    I’d say the overall conclusion is that Librewolf was one of the better browsers,
                    though the bias in the report might suggest that the “Brave browser” was “best”;
                    it may be “good” at a few things, but their trustworthiness is as much, if not
                    more, in question than many of the other browsers in the list.

                    I actually expected Ungoogled Chromium to do better than what the check boxes
                    suggest; given the source, maybe IT was one of the better ones!

                    Based on my own informal tests, Librewolf and Ungoogled Chromium are two of
                    the better browsers out there, and they DO get updated reasonably often too!

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                    #117196
                    Moderator
                    Brian Masinick
                      uptime;pinxi -v4
                       12:08:37 up 19:39,  1 user,  load average: 0.54, 0.55, 0.45
                      System:
                        Host: antix23-hp-14-fq1025 Kernel: 6.1.42-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64
                          bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 13.2.0 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.4.1
                          Distro: antiX-23-runit_x64-full Arditi del Popolo 26 August 2023
                          base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
                      Machine:
                        Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A
                          serial: <superuser required>
                        Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI
                          v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021
                      Battery:
                        ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%)
                          volts: 12.8 min: 11.3 model: HP Primary status: not charging
                      CPU:
                        Info: 6-core model: AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics bits: 64
                          type: MT MCP arch: Zen 2 rev: 1 cache: L1: 384 KiB L2: 3 MiB L3: 8 MiB
                        Speed (MHz): avg: 1458 high: 2100 min/max: 1400/4056 boost: enabled cores:
                          1: 1400 2: 1400 3: 1400 4: 1400 5: 1400 6: 1400 7: 1397 8: 1400 9: 2100
                          10: 1400 11: 1400 12: 1400 bogomips: 50309
                        Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
                      Graphics:
                        Device-1: AMD Lucienne vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: amdgpu v: kernel
                          arch: GCN-5 bus-ID: 03:00.0 temp: 48.0 C
                        Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera driver: uvcvideo type: USB
                          bus-ID: 1-3:3
                        Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
                          unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu
                          resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
                        API: OpenGL v: 4.6 vendor: amd mesa v: 22.3.6 glx-v: 1.4
                          direct-render: yes renderer: AMD Radeon Graphics (renoir LLVM 15.0.6 DRM
                          3.49 6.1.42-antix.1-amd64-smp)
                      Network:
                        Device-1: Realtek vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: rtw89_8852ae v: kernel
                          port: f000 bus-ID: 01:00.0
                        IF: wlan0 state: up mac: d8:80:83:b7:f8:bd
                      Drives:
                        Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 23.4 GiB (9.8%)
                        ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Toshiba model: KBG40ZNV256G KIOXIA
                          size: 238.47 GiB temp: 27.9 C
                      Partition:
                        ID-1: / size: 47.76 GiB used: 23.34 GiB (48.9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3
                        ID-2: /boot/efi size: 1.23 GiB used: 61 MiB (4.9%) fs: vfat
                          dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
                        ID-3: swap-1 size: 7.81 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap
                          dev: /dev/nvme0n1p6
                      Info:
                        Processes: 256 Uptime: 19h 39m Memory: total: 8 GiB note: est.
                        available: 7.1 GiB used: 2.37 GiB (33.4%) Init: runit runlevel: 2 Compilers:
                        gcc: 12.2.0 Packages: 1787 Shell: Bash v: 5.2.15 pinxi: 3.3.29-27

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                      #117202
                      Moderator
                      Brian Masinick
                        sudo ps_mem.py;uptime
                         Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program
                        112.0 KiB +  15.5 KiB = 127.5 KiB	runit
                        124.0 KiB +  18.5 KiB = 142.5 KiB	runsvdir
                        152.0 KiB +  29.5 KiB = 181.5 KiB	seatd
                        360.0 KiB +  98.5 KiB = 458.5 KiB	icewm-session
                        264.0 KiB + 197.5 KiB = 461.5 KiB	startup
                        352.0 KiB + 133.5 KiB = 485.5 KiB	udevil
                        736.0 KiB + 185.0 KiB = 921.0 KiB	dbus-launch (2)
                        764.0 KiB + 171.5 KiB = 935.5 KiB	gconfd-2
                        696.0 KiB + 271.5 KiB = 967.5 KiB	dconf-service
                        680.0 KiB + 311.5 KiB = 991.5 KiB	devmon
                        816.0 KiB + 309.5 KiB =   1.1 MiB	desktop-session
                        824.0 KiB + 330.0 KiB =   1.1 MiB	getty (6)
                          1.0 MiB + 240.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB	runsv (11)
                        852.0 KiB + 449.5 KiB =   1.3 MiB	at-spi-bus-launcher
                          1.2 MiB + 344.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB	upowerd
                        960.0 KiB + 725.0 KiB =   1.6 MiB	sudo (2)
                          1.4 MiB + 516.0 KiB =   1.9 MiB	dbus-daemon (4)
                          2.4 MiB + 204.5 KiB =   2.6 MiB	udevd
                          2.4 MiB + 351.5 KiB =   2.7 MiB	bash
                          1.8 MiB +   1.1 MiB =   2.8 MiB	dhclient (2)
                          2.9 MiB + 376.5 KiB =   3.2 MiB	at-spi2-registryd
                          4.1 MiB + 411.5 KiB =   4.5 MiB	conky
                          4.9 MiB + 145.5 KiB =   5.0 MiB	wpa_supplicant
                          4.8 MiB + 626.5 KiB =   5.4 MiB	slimski
                          5.9 MiB + 582.5 KiB =   6.5 MiB	pipewire-pulse
                          5.9 MiB +   1.3 MiB =   7.2 MiB	icewm
                          7.6 MiB +   1.1 MiB =   8.6 MiB	pipewire
                          7.6 MiB +   1.4 MiB =   9.0 MiB	wireplumber
                         18.4 MiB +   2.5 MiB =  20.9 MiB	roxterm
                         22.9 MiB +  19.6 MiB =  42.5 MiB	volumeicon
                         65.1 MiB +  22.1 MiB =  87.2 MiB	Xorg
                          1.2 GiB + 138.9 MiB =   1.3 GiB	librewolf (14)
                        ---------------------------------
                                                  1.5 GiB
                        =================================
                         12:44:08 up 20:14,  1 user,  load average: 0.40, 0.50, 0.41

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                        Brian Masinick

                        #117218
                        Moderator
                        Brian Masinick
                          sudo ps_mem.py 
                          [sudo] password for masinick: 
                           Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program
                          112.0 KiB +  15.5 KiB = 127.5 KiB	runit
                          124.0 KiB +  19.5 KiB = 143.5 KiB	runsvdir
                          152.0 KiB +  30.5 KiB = 182.5 KiB	seatd
                          224.0 KiB +  24.5 KiB = 248.5 KiB	AppRun
                          264.0 KiB + 197.5 KiB = 461.5 KiB	startup
                          352.0 KiB + 159.5 KiB = 511.5 KiB	udevil
                          360.0 KiB + 191.5 KiB = 551.5 KiB	icewm-session
                          736.0 KiB + 193.0 KiB = 929.0 KiB	dbus-launch (2)
                          680.0 KiB + 318.5 KiB = 998.5 KiB	devmon
                          696.0 KiB + 319.5 KiB =   1.0 MiB	dconf-service
                          764.0 KiB + 283.5 KiB =   1.0 MiB	gconfd-2
                            1.0 MiB +  25.5 KiB =   1.0 MiB	ungoogled-chromium_117.0.5938.88-1.1.AppImage
                          816.0 KiB + 316.5 KiB =   1.1 MiB	desktop-session
                            1.0 MiB + 248.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB	runsv (11)
                          844.0 KiB + 461.0 KiB =   1.3 MiB	getty (6)
                          852.0 KiB + 505.5 KiB =   1.3 MiB	at-spi-bus-launcher
                            1.2 MiB + 387.5 KiB =   1.6 MiB	upowerd
                          928.0 KiB + 807.0 KiB =   1.7 MiB	sudo (2)
                            1.6 MiB + 276.5 KiB =   1.9 MiB	udevd
                            1.4 MiB + 574.0 KiB =   2.0 MiB	dbus-daemon (4)
                            2.4 MiB + 359.5 KiB =   2.7 MiB	bash
                            1.8 MiB +   1.1 MiB =   2.8 MiB	dhclient (2)
                            2.9 MiB + 458.5 KiB =   3.3 MiB	at-spi2-registryd
                            4.1 MiB + 618.5 KiB =   4.7 MiB	conky
                            4.9 MiB +  62.5 KiB =   5.0 MiB	wpa_supplicant
                            4.8 MiB +   1.0 MiB =   5.8 MiB	slimski
                            5.8 MiB + 666.5 KiB =   6.5 MiB	pipewire-pulse
                            6.1 MiB +   2.1 MiB =   8.2 MiB	icewm
                            7.6 MiB +   1.1 MiB =   8.7 MiB	pipewire
                            7.6 MiB +   1.4 MiB =   9.1 MiB	wireplumber
                           18.6 MiB +   3.5 MiB =  22.1 MiB	roxterm
                           23.4 MiB +  20.7 MiB =  44.1 MiB	volumeicon
                           64.5 MiB +  22.9 MiB =  87.4 MiB	Xorg
                          376.7 MiB + 178.9 MiB = 555.6 MiB	chrome (11)
                          ---------------------------------
                                                  785.2 MiB
                          =================================

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                          Brian Masinick

                          #117222
                          Moderator
                          Brian Masinick

                            mixing a few different information options today –

                            pinxi -GaEv3
                            System:
                              Host: antix23-hp-14-fq1025 Kernel: 6.1.42-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64
                                bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 13.2.0 clocksource: tsc available: hpet,acpi_pm
                                parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.42-antix.1-amd64-smp
                                root=UUID=d6047e51-d501-4884-8c95-5d7ec16a4b44 ro quiet selinux=0
                              Desktop: IceWM v: 3.4.1 dm: slimski v: 1.5.0
                                Distro: antiX-23-runit_x64-full Arditi del Popolo 26 August 2023 base: Debian
                                GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
                            Machine:
                              Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A
                                serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
                              Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI
                                v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021
                            Battery:
                              ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%)
                                volts: 12.8 min: 11.3 model: HP Primary type: Li-ion serial: SerialNumber
                                status: not charging
                            CPU:
                              Info: model: AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics bits: 64 type: MT MCP
                                arch: Zen 2 gen: 3 level: v3 note: check built: 2020-22
                                process: TSMC n7 (7nm) family: 0x17 (23) model-id: 0x68 (104) stepping: 1
                                microcode: 0x8608103
                              Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 6 tpc: 2 threads: 12 smt: enabled cache:
                                L1: 384 KiB desc: d-6x32 KiB; i-6x32 KiB L2: 3 MiB desc: 6x512 KiB L3: 8 MiB
                                desc: 2x4 MiB
                              Speed (MHz): avg: 1458 high: 2100 min/max: 1400/4056 boost: enabled
                                scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: schedutil cores: 1: 1400 2: 1400
                                3: 1400 4: 1400 5: 1400 6: 1400 7: 1400 8: 1400 9: 2100 10: 1400 11: 1397
                                12: 1400 bogomips: 50309
                              Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
                              Vulnerabilities:
                              Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
                              Type: l1tf status: Not affected
                              Type: mds status: Not affected
                              Type: meltdown status: Not affected
                              Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
                              Type: retbleed mitigation: untrained return thunk; SMT enabled with STIBP
                                protection
                              Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via
                                prctl
                              Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer
                                sanitization
                              Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, STIBP:
                                always-on, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
                              Type: srbds status: Not affected
                              Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
                            Graphics:
                              Device-1: AMD Lucienne vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: amdgpu v: kernel
                                arch: GCN-5 code: Vega process: GF 14nm built: 2017-20 pcie: gen: 3
                                speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s ports:
                                active: eDP-1 empty: HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:164c
                                class-ID: 0300 temp: 44.0 C
                              Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera driver: uvcvideo type: USB
                                rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 1-3:3 chip-ID: 04f2:b6f1
                                class-ID: 0e02 serial: 0001
                              Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
                                unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0.0
                                screens: 1
                              Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22")
                                s-diag: 582mm (22.93")
                              Monitor-1: eDP-1 mapped: eDP model: ChiMei InnoLux 0x1429 built: 2020
                                res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 158 gamma: 1.2 size: 309x173mm (12.17x6.81")
                                diag: 354mm (13.9") ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 640x480
                              API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: amd radeonsi platforms: device: 0 drv: radeonsi
                                device: 1 drv: swrast gbm: egl: 1.4 drv: kms_swrast surfaceless:
                                drv: radeonsi x11: drv: radeonsi inactive: wayland
                              API: OpenGL v: 4.6 vendor: amd mesa v: 22.3.6 glx-v: 1.4 es-v: 3.2
                                direct-render: yes renderer: AMD Radeon Graphics (renoir LLVM 15.0.6 DRM
                                3.49 6.1.42-antix.1-amd64-smp) device-ID: 1002:164c memory: 500 MiB
                                unified: no
                            Network:
                              Device-1: Realtek vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: rtw89_8852ae v: kernel
                                modules: wl pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: f000 bus-ID: 01:00.0
                                chip-ID: 10ec:a85a class-ID: 0280
                              IF: wlan0 state: up mac: d8:80:83:b7:f8:bd
                            Bluetooth:
                              Device-1: Realtek Bluetooth Radio driver: btusb v: 0.8 type: USB rev: 1.0
                                speed: 12 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 bus-ID: 1-4:4 chip-ID: 0bda:385a
                                class-ID: e001 serial: 00e04c000001
                              Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: down bt-service: disabled
                                rfk-block: hardware: no software: no address: D8:80:83:B7:F8:BE
                              Info: acl-mtu: 1021:6 sco-mtu: 255:12 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff park
                                link-mode: peripheral accept
                            Drives:
                              Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 23.56 GiB (9.9%)
                            Info:
                              Processes: 249 Uptime: 23h 7m wakeups: 21682 Memory: total: 8 GiB note: est.
                              available: 7.1 GiB used: 1.63 GiB (22.9%) Init: runit v: N/A runlevel: 2
                              tool: service Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12 Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 1787
                              libs: 868 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,synaptic Shell: Bash v: 5.2.15
                              running-in: roxterm pinxi: 3.3.29-27

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                            Brian Masinick

                            #117227
                            Moderator
                            Brian Masinick

                              I moved over to my other antiX 23 instance, the SysVinit version –

                              uptime; pinxi -bop
                               19:50:37 up  2:16,  1 user,  load average: 0.14, 0.21, 0.18
                              System:
                                Host: antiX23-HP-14-fq1025 Kernel: 6.1.42-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64
                                  bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.4.1 Distro: antiX-23_x64-full Arditi del
                                  Popolo 27 August 2023
                              Machine:
                                Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A
                                  serial: <superuser required>
                                Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI
                                  v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021
                              Battery:
                                ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%)
                              CPU:
                                Info: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics [MT MCP] speed (MHz):
                                  avg: 1401 min/max: 1400/4056
                              Graphics:
                                Device-1: AMD Lucienne driver: amdgpu v: kernel
                                Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera driver: uvcvideo type: USB
                                Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
                                  unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu
                                  resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
                                API: OpenGL v: 4.6 vendor: amd mesa v: 22.3.6 renderer: AMD Radeon
                                  Graphics (renoir LLVM 15.0.6 DRM 3.49 6.1.42-antix.1-amd64-smp)
                              Network:
                                Device-1: Realtek driver: rtw89_8852ae
                              Drives:
                                Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 12.43 GiB (5.2%)
                              Partition:
                                ID-1: / size: 47.76 GiB used: 12.37 GiB (25.9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p5
                                ID-2: /boot size: 1.23 GiB used: 61 MiB (4.9%) fs: vfat
                                  dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
                                ID-3: swap-1 size: 7.81 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap
                                  dev: /dev/nvme0n1p6
                              Unmounted:
                                ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1p3 size: 48.83 GiB fs: ext4
                                ID-2: /dev/nvme0n1p4 size: 48.83 GiB fs: ext4
                                ID-3: /dev/nvme0n1p7 size: 35.09 GiB fs: ext4
                                ID-4: /dev/nvme0n1p8 size: 47.85 GiB fs: ext4
                              Info:
                                Processes: 264 Uptime: 2h 16m Memory: total: 8 GiB note: est.
                                available: 7.1 GiB used: 1.8 GiB (25.4%) Shell: Bash pinxi: 3.3.29-27

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                              Brian Masinick

                              #117265
                              Moderator
                              Brian Masinick
                                uptime;pinxi -v4
                                 09:13:52 up 15:39,  1 user,  load average: 0.04, 0.08, 0.04
                                System:
                                  Host: antiX23-HP-14-fq1025 Kernel: 6.1.42-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64
                                    bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 13.2.0 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.4.1
                                    Distro: antiX-23_x64-full Arditi del Popolo 27 August 2023 base: Debian
                                    GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
                                Machine:
                                  Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A
                                    serial: <superuser required>
                                  Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI
                                    v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021
                                Battery:
                                  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%)
                                    volts: 12.7 min: 11.3 model: HP Primary status: not charging
                                CPU:
                                  Info: 6-core model: AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics bits: 64
                                    type: MT MCP arch: Zen 2 rev: 1 cache: L1: 384 KiB L2: 3 MiB L3: 8 MiB
                                  Speed (MHz): avg: 1615 high: 2100 min/max: 1400/4056 boost: enabled cores:
                                    1: 1400 2: 1400 3: 2100 4: 1400 5: 1400 6: 1400 7: 1400 8: 1400 9: 1885
                                    10: 2100 11: 1397 12: 2100 bogomips: 50303
                                  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
                                Graphics:
                                  Device-1: AMD Lucienne vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: amdgpu v: kernel
                                    arch: GCN-5 bus-ID: 03:00.0 temp: 44.0 C
                                  Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera driver: uvcvideo type: USB
                                    bus-ID: 1-3:3
                                  Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
                                    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu
                                    resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
                                  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 vendor: amd mesa v: 22.3.6 glx-v: 1.4
                                    direct-render: yes renderer: AMD Radeon Graphics (renoir LLVM 15.0.6 DRM
                                    3.49 6.1.42-antix.1-amd64-smp)
                                Network:
                                  Device-1: Realtek vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: rtw89_8852ae v: kernel
                                    port: f000 bus-ID: 01:00.0
                                  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: d8:80:83:b7:f8:bd
                                Drives:
                                  Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 12.46 GiB (5.2%)
                                  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Toshiba model: KBG40ZNV256G KIOXIA
                                    size: 238.47 GiB temp: 24.9 C
                                Partition:
                                  ID-1: / size: 47.76 GiB used: 12.4 GiB (26.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p5
                                  ID-2: /boot size: 1.23 GiB used: 61 MiB (4.9%) fs: vfat
                                    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
                                  ID-3: swap-1 size: 7.81 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap
                                    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p6
                                Info:
                                  Processes: 255 Uptime: 15h 39m Memory: total: 8 GiB note: est.
                                  available: 7.1 GiB used: 1.16 GiB (16.4%) Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5
                                  Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 Packages: 1684 Shell: Bash v: 5.2.15 pinxi: 3.3.29-27

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                                Brian Masinick

                                #117311
                                Moderator
                                Brian Masinick

                                  I have Ungoogled Chromium and Librewolf, along with Firefox (installed in the released version, Developer Edition and Nightly installed in my own directory tree). The Ungoogled Chromium is the most conservative in memory usage; Librewolf is similar in hungry memory usage to the Firefox versions.

                                  Here’s the memory usage when I have my Firefox Nightly and two tabs –

                                  sudo ps_mem.py 
                                   Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program
                                  152.0 KiB +  30.5 KiB = 182.5 KiB	seatd
                                  192.0 KiB +  17.5 KiB = 209.5 KiB	gpm
                                  228.0 KiB +  35.5 KiB = 263.5 KiB	init
                                  292.0 KiB +  41.5 KiB = 333.5 KiB	cron
                                  272.0 KiB + 180.5 KiB = 452.5 KiB	startup
                                  356.0 KiB + 117.5 KiB = 473.5 KiB	udevil
                                  364.0 KiB + 110.5 KiB = 474.5 KiB	icewm-session
                                  460.0 KiB +  24.5 KiB = 484.5 KiB	acpid
                                  520.0 KiB +  31.5 KiB = 551.5 KiB	rpc.idmapd
                                  464.0 KiB +  98.5 KiB = 562.5 KiB	rpc.statd
                                  476.0 KiB +  97.5 KiB = 573.5 KiB	rpcbind
                                  168.0 KiB + 534.0 KiB = 702.0 KiB	saned (2)
                                  728.0 KiB + 158.5 KiB = 886.5 KiB	gconfd-2
                                  736.0 KiB + 169.0 KiB = 905.0 KiB	dbus-launch (2)
                                  652.0 KiB + 269.5 KiB = 921.5 KiB	dconf-service
                                  636.0 KiB + 331.5 KiB = 967.5 KiB	devmon
                                  816.0 KiB + 328.5 KiB =   1.1 MiB	desktop-session
                                    1.2 MiB +  16.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB	smartd
                                  860.0 KiB + 426.0 KiB =   1.3 MiB	getty (6)
                                  972.0 KiB + 705.0 KiB =   1.6 MiB	sudo (2)
                                    1.7 MiB +  20.5 KiB =   1.7 MiB	sshd
                                    1.9 MiB +  26.5 KiB =   1.9 MiB	dhclient
                                    1.7 MiB + 374.0 KiB =   2.1 MiB	dbus-daemon (4)
                                    2.0 MiB + 192.5 KiB =   2.2 MiB	bluetoothd
                                    2.3 MiB + 370.5 KiB =   2.7 MiB	bash
                                    2.6 MiB + 408.5 KiB =   3.0 MiB	udevd
                                    2.5 MiB + 552.5 KiB =   3.1 MiB	cupsd
                                    3.2 MiB +  12.5 KiB =   3.2 MiB	haveged
                                    3.2 MiB + 316.5 KiB =   3.5 MiB	upowerd
                                    3.7 MiB + 705.5 KiB =   4.4 MiB	slimski
                                    4.1 MiB + 396.5 KiB =   4.5 MiB	conky
                                    4.8 MiB + 443.5 KiB =   5.2 MiB	at-spi-bus-launcher
                                    4.9 MiB + 376.5 KiB =   5.3 MiB	at-spi2-registryd
                                    3.5 MiB +   2.8 MiB =   6.3 MiB	volumeicon
                                    5.3 MiB +   1.6 MiB =   6.9 MiB	icewm
                                    6.3 MiB +   1.1 MiB =   7.4 MiB	pipewire
                                    7.8 MiB +   1.4 MiB =   9.1 MiB	wireplumber
                                    5.9 MiB +   3.8 MiB =   9.6 MiB	wpa_supplicant (2)
                                   10.7 MiB + 586.5 KiB =  11.3 MiB	pipewire-pulse
                                   14.4 MiB +   3.9 MiB =  18.3 MiB	roxterm
                                   15.5 MiB +   3.0 MiB =  18.5 MiB	zzzfm
                                   67.1 MiB +  29.8 MiB =  96.9 MiB	Xorg
                                  944.5 MiB + 134.6 MiB =   1.1 GiB	firefox-bin (13)
                                  ---------------------------------
                                                            1.3 GiB
                                  =================================

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