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August 21, 2022 at 4:11 pm #87536

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I’m here with the Dell Inspiron 5558 laptop; I grabbed the stats just prior to opening the Web browser this time, and I used the 4.9 kernel, which (like others) I feel uses fewer resources, for those systems which are able to support it.

inxi -v1
System:
  Host: antix21 Kernel: 4.9.0-294-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64
    Desktop: IceWM v: 2.9.9 Distro: antiX-21-runit_x64-base Grup Yorum 30
    October 2021
CPU:
  Info: dual core Intel Core i7-5500U [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 725
    min/max: 500/2401
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 5500 driver: i915 v: kernel
  Device-2: NVIDIA GK208BM [GeForce 920M] driver: N/A
  Device-3: Suyin Integrated_Webcam_HD type: USB driver: uvcvideo
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
    unloaded: fbdev,vesa gpu: i915 resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 11.0.1 256 bits) v: 4.5 Mesa 20.3.5
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 447.13 GiB used: 26.8 GiB (6.0%)
Info:
  Processes: 186 Uptime: 0m Memory: 7.77 GiB used: 452 MiB (5.7%) Shell: Bash
  inxi: 3.3.20

I added ‘top’ to get a different view of the system after adding the browser.

top - 12:10:36 up 4 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.20, 0.21, 0.09
Tasks: 195 total,   1 running, 194 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s):  5.6 us,  1.8 sy,  0.0 ni, 92.2 id,  0.0 wa,  0.3 hi,  0.1 si,  0.0 st
MiB Mem :   7961.1 total,   6142.0 free,    757.3 used,   1061.8 buff/cache
MiB Swap:   8192.0 total,   8192.0 free,      0.0 used.   6954.9 avail Mem

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August 21, 2022 at 4:14 pm #87538

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Turned off the browser briefly to get another set of stats:

top - 12:13:16 up 7 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.40, 0.40, 0.19
Tasks: 180 total,   1 running, 179 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s):  1.5 us,  3.0 sy,  0.0 ni, 94.0 id,  0.0 wa,  0.0 hi,  1.5 si,  0.0 st
MiB Mem :   7961.1 total,   7055.4 free,    <strong>203.3 used</strong>,    702.4 buff/cache
MiB Swap:   8192.0 total,   8192.0 free,      0.0 used.   7521.6 avail Mem

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August 21, 2022 at 4:28 pm #87539

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Rebooted with a new Liquorix kernel, then copied some stats into a buffer in the geany editor, and copied them here:

top;inxi -v1

top - 12:23:55 up 0 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.30, 0.10, 0.03
Tasks: 163 total,   2 running, 161 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s):  0.2 us,  0.2 sy,  0.0 ni, 99.7 id,  0.0 wa,  0.0 hi,  0.0 si,  0.0 st
MiB Mem :   7867.2 total,   7413.6 free,    186.1 used,    267.4 buff/cache
MiB Swap:   8192.0 total,   8192.0 free,      0.0 used.   7421.9 avail Mem

System:
  Host: antix21 Kernel: 5.19.0-2.1-liquorix-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
    Desktop: IceWM v: 2.9.9 Distro: antiX-21-runit_x64-base Grup Yorum 30
    October 2021
CPU:
  Info: dual core Intel Core i7-5500U [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 2398
    min/max: 500/2401
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 5500 driver: i915 v: kernel
  Device-2: NVIDIA GK208BM [GeForce 920M] driver: nvidiafb v: kernel
  Device-3: Suyin Integrated_Webcam_HD type: USB driver: uvcvideo
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
    unloaded: fbdev,vesa gpu: i915 resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 5500 (BDW GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa
    20.3.5
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 447.13 GiB used: 26.62 GiB (6.0%)
Info:
  Processes: 164 Uptime: 0m Memory: 7.68 GiB used: 482.5 MiB (6.1%)
  Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.20

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August 21, 2022 at 4:33 pm #87540

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I do notice that the initial ‘top’ memory shows up a bit LOWER, not higher than when I used the 4.9 kernel; however, I had been using a browser.
I’ll reboot and run that test again, and I predict a DIFFERENT result. The reason is that some of the cached memory allocated when the browser was started was not all released following browser closure, but if the stats had been collected immediately after boot, a different, lower memory allocation is expected. I will attempt to confirm this. If I’m right, this will confirm my understanding of the current Linux kernel memory allocation in the scheduler.

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August 21, 2022 at 4:36 pm #87541

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top - 12:34:19 up 0 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.13, 0.03, 0.01
Tasks: 194 total,   1 running, 193 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s):  3.1 us,  3.1 sy,  0.0 ni, 93.8 id,  0.0 wa,  0.0 hi,  0.0 si,  0.0 st
MiB Mem :   7961.1 total,   7569.6 free,    191.4 used,    200.1 buff/cache
MiB Swap:   8192.0 total,   8192.0 free,      0.0 used.   7543.0 avail Mem

Hmm, the Liquorix kernel seems to be slightly more memory conservative than the 4.9 kernel with these stats; I’ll compare to the 5.10 kernel next.

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August 21, 2022 at 4:40 pm #87542

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Tasks: 170 total,   1 running, 169 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s):  0.0 us,  0.0 sy,  0.0 ni,100.0 id,  0.0 wa,  0.0 hi,  0.0 si,  0.0 st
MiB Mem :   7868.6 total,   7428.2 free,    178.4 used,    262.0 buff/cache
MiB Swap:   8192.0 total,   8192.0 free,      0.0 used.   7429.0 avail Mem
--- 5.10 antiX kernel

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August 21, 2022 at 4:43 pm #87543

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Tasks: 187 total,   2 running, 185 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s):  0.7 us,  1.0 sy,  0.0 ni, 97.9 id,  0.0 wa,  0.2 hi,  0.1 si,  0.0 st
MiB Mem :   7961.1 total,   7536.2 free,    193.8 used,    231.0 buff/cache
MiB Swap:   8192.0 total,   8192.0 free,      0.0 used.   7540.1 avail Mem
--- antiX 4.9 kernel

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August 21, 2022 at 4:53 pm #87545

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More processes run with the 4.9 kernel, that appears to explain the memory usage difference.
If you look at the first stat in this group, the one with the FIRST Liquorix 5.19 kernel in this grouping only had 163 tasks running; the first run with the 4.9 kernel had 193 tasks running; the run with the 5.10 kernel had 170 tasks running and the 4.9 kernel had 187 tasks running; with this information, it appears that the 5.10 kernel uses (or at least had) fewer tasks running and appears, in that context, to be slightly more memory conservative.

Whatever actual memory used that is saved appears to be a rather small difference in the kernel sizes and is much more impacted by the virtual memory used by additional processes; that makes sense. To conserve the most possible memory, you’d want to remove any daemon processes that you do not use in your workload – as long as they are NOT required to operate the overall system. If you’re not sure, leave them alone; you can see by these statistics that the differences are not very significant; opening an editor or Web Browser definitely consumes considerably more memory than these few lightweight daemon processes!

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August 21, 2022 at 4:57 pm #87546

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Also note in this brief “study”; while the conditions are not perfectly validated, they do give us a rough idea about the memory utilization on one system using a few different startup routines with three different system kernels.

A much larger sample size would be necessary to make these observations statistically valid, but they do provide a general idea of what took place in my tests today.

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August 22, 2022 at 7:32 pm #87597

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Woo hoo! I picked up an inexpensive tp-link AC600 high gain wireless dual band USB adapter, and now this adapter is recognized when booting from the previously created image that I used to install antiX-21-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum on my Dell Inspiron 5558 laptop; now I can run it on my Acer Aspire 5 Model A515-55 too!

inxi -b
System:
  Host: antix1 Kernel: 5.10.57-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64
    Desktop: IceWM v: 2.8.0 Distro: antiX-21-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 30
    October 2021
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Acer product: Aspire A515-55 v: V1.12
    serial: NA
  Mobo: IL model: Doc_IL v: V1.12 serial: NA
    UEFI: Insyde v: 1.12 date: 09/07/2020
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT1 charge: 47.8 Wh (100.0%) condition: 47.8/47.8 Wh (100.0%)
CPU:
  Info: dual core Intel Core i3-1005G1 [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 3014
    min/max: 400/3400
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Iris Plus Graphics G1 driver: i915 v: kernel
  Device-2: Quanta HD User Facing type: USB driver: uvcvideo
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
    unloaded: fbdev,vesa gpu: i915 resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics (ICL GT1) v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.5
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Killer Wi-Fi 6 AX1650i 160MHz Wireless Network Adapter
    driver: iwlwifi
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
    driver: r8169
  Device-3: TP-Link 802.11ac WLAN Adapter type: USB driver: N/A
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 148.54 GiB used: 4 MiB (0.0%)
Info:
  Processes: 166 Uptime: 5m Memory: 3.62 GiB used: 1.04 GiB (28.6%)
  Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.20

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August 22, 2022 at 7:45 pm #87599

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This also means that whether or not the upcoming antiX 22 solves my wireless networking issues (or not) on my Acer Aspire 5 A515-55, I’ll be able to run antiX on it!

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August 22, 2022 at 9:22 pm #87605

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INSTALLED!

inxi -Cb
System:
  Host: antixMas Kernel: 5.10.57-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64
    Desktop: IceWM v: 2.9.9 Distro: antiX-21-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 30
    October 2021
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Acer product: Aspire A515-55 v: V1.12
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: IL model: Doc_IL v: V1.12 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Insyde
    v: 1.12 date: 09/07/2020
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT1 charge: 47.8 Wh (100.0%) condition: 47.8/47.8 Wh (100.0%)
CPU:
  Info: dual core model: Intel Core i3-1005G1 bits: 64 type: MT MCP cache:
    L2: 1024 KiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 2544 min/max: 400/3400 cores: 1: 2872 2: 2488 3: 1520
    4: 3299
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Iris Plus Graphics G1 driver: i915 v: kernel
  Device-2: Quanta HD User Facing type: USB driver: uvcvideo
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
    unloaded: fbdev,vesa gpu: i915 resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics (ICL GT1) v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.5
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Killer Wi-Fi 6 AX1650i 160MHz Wireless Network Adapter
    driver: iwlwifi
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
    driver: r8169
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 119.24 GiB used: 5.17 GiB (4.3%)
Info:
  Processes: 201 Uptime: 16m Memory: 3.62 GiB used: 2.55 GiB (70.5%)
  Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.20

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August 23, 2022 at 1:08 am #87619

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Sure was nice to get the WiFi network going.

Replaced MX Linux with antiX 21 runit on the Acer Aspire 5 laptop. I still have another system with MX Linux and antiX so they’re both still available in my group of systems.

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August 23, 2022 at 6:58 pm #87636

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Back with my Acer Aspire 5 and antiX 21 runit:

inxi -v1
System:
  Host: antixMas Kernel: 5.10.104-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64
    Desktop: IceWM v: 2.9.9 Distro: antiX-21-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 30
    October 2021
CPU:
  Info: dual core Intel Core i3-1005G1 [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 3056
    min/max: 400/3400
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Iris Plus Graphics G1 driver: i915 v: kernel
  Device-2: Quanta HD User Facing type: USB driver: uvcvideo
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
    unloaded: fbdev,vesa gpu: i915 resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics (ICL GT1) v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.5
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 119.24 GiB used: 6.34 GiB (5.3%)
Info:
  Processes: 178 Uptime: 39m Memory: 3.62 GiB used: 1.7 GiB (46.8%)
  Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.20

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August 23, 2022 at 6:59 pm #87637

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inxi -v2
System:
  Host: antixMas Kernel: 5.10.104-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64
    Desktop: IceWM v: 2.9.9 Distro: antiX-21-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 30
    October 2021
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Acer product: Aspire A515-55 v: V1.12
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: IL model: Doc_IL v: V1.12 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Insyde
    v: 1.12 date: 09/07/2020
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT1 charge: 47.8 Wh (100.0%) condition: 47.8/47.8 Wh (100.0%)
CPU:
  Info: dual core Intel Core i3-1005G1 [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 3009
    min/max: 400/3400
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Iris Plus Graphics G1 driver: i915 v: kernel
  Device-2: Quanta HD User Facing type: USB driver: uvcvideo
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
    unloaded: fbdev,vesa gpu: i915 resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics (ICL GT1) v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.5
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Killer Wi-Fi 6 AX1650i 160MHz Wireless Network Adapter
    driver: iwlwifi
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
    driver: r8169
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 119.24 GiB used: 6.34 GiB (5.3%)
Info:
  Processes: 177 Uptime: 40m Memory: 3.62 GiB used: 1.68 GiB (46.3%)
  Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.20

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