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Brian Masinick
MX Linux:
pinxi -b System: Host: BrianMX Kernel: 6.0.0-3mx-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce v: 4.16.0 Distro: MX-21.2.1_ahs_x64 Wildflower August 28 2022 Machine: Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%) CPU: Info: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 1556 min/max: 1400/4056 Graphics: Device-1: AMD Lucienne driver: amdgpu v: kernel Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.14 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.0.5 renderer: AMD RENOIR (LLVM 14.0.5 DRM 3.48 6.0.0-3mx-amd64) Network: Device-1: Realtek driver: rtw89_8852ae Drives: Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 12.59 GiB (5.3%) Info: Processes: 317 Uptime: 27m Memory: 7.1 GiB used: 1.72 GiB (24.2%) Shell: Bash pinxi: 3.3.23-3By the way, I’ve been over here, looking around at the various programs and tools, and it’s almost exactly what I anticipated: the categories in the Package Installer are nearly identical to antiX except for a couple of things: 1) there are one or two MORE categories in the MX Linux implementation of MX Package Installer and 2) the number of applications in each grouping has more applications, tools, and utilities compared to antiX, which is EXACTLY what I anticipated seeing.
To me, MX Linux is one of the TOP full featured, general purpose operating systems. It is a “moderate” system, not nearly as excessive in the choices of applications, their image size or capabilities compared to most full featured general purpose operating systems. Neither is it a lean, mean, bare bones kind of system.
I love MX Linux as an excellent general purpose system. When I want to use such a system, this is where I come.
I love antiX as a lean, mean, efficient system, designed primarily to ensure that it runs as well as possible on older hardware, even if that means it doesn’t always run without modification on the newest and most capable new systems. The compromises antiX makes favor lean efficiency. The compromises of MX Linux favor a smooth every day experience for reasonably modern systems, and offer AHS – Advanced Hardware Support in order to function well with fairly current hardware.
I always keep these two distributions in my personal software collection; while there is overlap, since they still have a lot of common components, it is clear that each of them serves a decidedly different set of attributes and distribution priorities.
Their Package Managers have the same architecture, but their contents are not identical or 100% equivalent; MX Linux has more offerings, antiX emphasizes efficient choices.
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Brian Masinickseaken64
Brian, I agree 100%. When I put MX on a system I always either add an antiX partition or a frugal install. Or, sometimes I use a Virtual Machine for antiX. I like having both available on every system I set up. The computer may be capable of running MX KDE just fine but I can’t resist firing up antiX every once in a while. I tend to not use anything but antiX on a Pentium 4 or earlier, but I do have one Pentium 4 with Hyper Threading and 3.2 Ghz plus 4GB of RAM running 32-bit MX. MX is actually pretty lean for such a full featured OS.
Seaken64
Brian Masinick
siduction this time, as I’m updating my distros (I’ve already updated antiX today):
pinxi -b System: Host: brian-hplaptop14fq1025nr Kernel: 6.0.6-1-siduction-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce v: 4.16.1 Distro: siduction 21.3.0 Wintersky - xfce - (202112231826) Machine: Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%) CPU: Info: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 1423 min/max: 1400/4056 Graphics: Device-1: AMD Lucienne driver: amdgpu v: kernel Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.4 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.2.2 renderer: RENOIR (renoir LLVM 15.0.2 DRM 3.48 6.0.6-1-siduction-amd64) Network: Device-1: Realtek driver: rtw89_8852ae Drives: Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 27.29 GiB (11.4%) Info: Processes: 306 Uptime: 9m Memory: 7.11 GiB used: 1.75 GiB (24.6%) Shell: Bash pinxi: 3.3.23-3--
Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
Back to my trusty antiX on my newest computer. Notice that on this computer I have to use newer system kernels. I’ve found xanmod1. For a while, this was the leading kernel to offer Linux V6 kernels; others have since caught up, but it’s still a nice kernel and has a lot of similarities to the Liquorix kernels that I’ve often used.
pinxi -b System: Host: brian-antix-hp-14fq1025nr Kernel: 6.0.7-x64v3-xanmod1 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.1.0 Distro: antiX-21-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 30 October 2021 Machine: Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%) CPU: Info: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 4056 min/max: 400/4056 Graphics: Device-1: AMD Lucienne driver: amdgpu v: kernel Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.5 renderer: AMD RENOIR (DRM 3.48.0 6.0.7-x64v3-xanmod1 LLVM 11.0.1) Network: Device-1: Realtek driver: rtw89_8852ae Drives: Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 29.81 GiB (12.5%) Info: Processes: 291 Uptime: 2m Memory: 7.1 GiB used: 604.7 MiB (8.3%) Shell: Bash pinxi: 3.3.23-3--
Brian Masinick
techore
A refurbished Asus laptop–new battery at $55 +tax USD, but otherwise it appears to be in good shape. It’s is to be my primary development box for the antix-core dwm respin. I just completed my second full test of the build script and using it now to post here. There are problems but those are all my doing not the Asus laptop. I do need to research why the fans are ramping up and wifi driver.
inxi -v3z System: Kernel: 4.9.0-326-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 Desktop: dwm v: 6.4 Distro: antiX-22-runit_x64-core Grup Yorum 18 October 2022 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) Machine: Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: X705UDR v: 1.0 serial: <filter> Mobo: ASUSTeK model: X705UDR v: 1.0 serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends v: X705UDR.317 date: 04/17/2019 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 39.5 Wh (89.0%) condition: 44.4/42.1 Wh (105.5%) volts: 11.5 min: 11.5 model: ASUSTeK ASUS Battery status: discharging CPU: Info: quad core model: Intel Core i7-8550U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Coffee Lake rev: A cache: L1: 256 KiB L2: 1024 KiB L3: 8 MiB Speed (MHz): avg: 3081 high: 3100 min/max: 400/4000 cores: 1: 3100 2: 3100 3: 3100 4: 3100 5: 2951 6: 3100 7: 3100 8: 3100 bogomips: 31872 Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx Graphics: Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 620 vendor: ASUSTeK driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen9.5 bus-ID: 00:02.0 Device-2: NVIDIA GP107M [GeForce GTX 1050 Mobile] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: N/A arch: Pascal bus-ID: 01:00.0 Device-3: IMC Networks USB2.0 VGA UVC WebCam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-5:2 Display: server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa gpu: i915 resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz Message: Unable to show GL data. Required tool glxinfo missing. Network: Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: ASUSTeK driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: d000 bus-ID: 02:00.0 IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> Device-2: Realtek RTL8822BE 802.11a/b/g/n/ac WiFi adapter vendor: AzureWave driver: N/A port: c000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 Drives: Local Storage: total: 1.14 TiB used: 3.12 GiB (0.3%) Info: Processes: 192 Uptime: 1h 53m Memory: 15.62 GiB used: 1.06 GiB (6.8%) Init: runit runlevel: 2 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 Packages: 975 Shell: fish v: 3.1.2 inxi: 3.3.19Here’s a throwback. An Athlon XP with 1.25MB RAM, 32-bit, single core.
I was reading yesterday that someone was installing antiX to an Athlon XP so I decided to pull this old machine out and see what it can do. I do have antiX-21 running on it but I am currently here with MX-18. I am still setting up antiX 21 with wifi. The already installed MX was a little easier to get working today.
I do not like the keyboard on this thing. I’m used to Lenovo and Thinkpad. Making a lot of errors. But I have confirmed the backspace key works! The built-in wifi is also flakey. I had to use a USB dongle. And the LCD screen has some vertical lines in it. But it is not too distracting. I keep this machine around for testing.
Using SeaMonkey to access the forum. Not “snappy” but quite acceptable.
Seaken64
$ inxi -Fxz System: Kernel: 4.15.0-1-686-pae i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 Distro: MX-18.3_386 Continuum March 12 2017 base: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) Machine: Type: Laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: Pavilion zv5200 (PT277UA#ABA) v: F.34 serial: <filter> Mobo: Compal model: 08A0 v: 32.41 serial: <filter> BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: F.34 date: 12/23/2004 Battery: ID-1: BAT1 charge: 0% condition: N/A volts: 1.0 min: 14.8 model: Hewlett-Packard Primary status: Unknown CPU: Info: Single Core model: AMD Athlon XP 3000+ bits: 32 type: UP arch: K8 rev: 0 cache: L2: 256 KiB flags: nx pae sse sse2 bogomips: 3191 Speed: 1600 MHz min/max: 800/1600 MHz Core speed (MHz): 1: 1600 Graphics: Device-1: NVIDIA NV17M [GeForce4 420 Go 32M] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: nouveau v: kernel bus-ID: 01:00.0 Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: loaded: nouveau unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1024x768~60Hz OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI nv17 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE2 v: 1.2 Mesa 18.2.8 direct render: Yes Audio: Device-1: NVIDIA nForce3 Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_intel8x0 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:06.0 Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k4.15.0-1-686-pae running: yes Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 10.0 running: yes Network: Device-1: Realtek RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter driver: 8139too v: 0.9.28 port: 7000 bus-ID: 02:01.0 IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> Device-2: Broadcom Limited BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: N/A port: 7000 bus-ID: 02:02.0 Device-3: Belkin F5D7050 Wireless G Adapter v3000 [Ralink RT2571W] type: USB driver: rt73usb bus-ID: 1-3:3 IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> Drives: Local Storage: total: 55.89 GiB used: 6.68 GiB (11.9%) ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Toshiba model: MK6025GAS size: 55.89 GiB Partition: ID-1: / size: 16.88 GiB used: 6.67 GiB (39.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda7 Swap: ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 2.45 GiB used: 7.5 MiB (0.3%) dev: /dev/sda5 Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 51.0 C mobo: N/A Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A Info: Processes: 155 Uptime: 2h 4m Memory: 1.23 GiB used: 769.9 MiB (61.3%) Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 6.3.0 Packages: 1937 Shell: Bash v: 4.4.12 inxi: 3.3.06
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Hello Mister Brian
You are settled in on the high resolution display fourteen inch
for a time. comfortable?
When You step back to the Inspiron Your eyes will see difference. (?)Brian Masinick
Hello Mister Brian
You are settled in on the high resolution display fourteen inch
for a time. comfortable?
When You step back to the Inspiron Your eyes will see difference. (?)I put a SSD in the Dell Inspiron laptop so it is reasonably functional but nowhere near the HP-14.
Yeah, there’s a lot of difference.
My Acer Chromebook 715 and the HP-14, and the ex Acer Aspire 5, replaced by the HP-14 are all modern systems. The Dell is about seven years old now so it’s my best “old system” by a Long shot and usable but mostly with antiX. Other distributions work because it has the most memory of any system and that does help, and makes running 100% from RAM.--
Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
Brian Masinick
Here’s my latest information update; nothing anywhere near as “cool” as what @techore: posted yesterday, but this system is humming along very smoothly and it’s currently my fastest distribution on recent hardware, which also means I had to manually update both wireless firmware, library modules and newer kernels in order to get it to work, so this one is a favorite because it is highly customized to get it to work just right:
pinxi -zv2 System: Kernel: 6.0.7-x64v3-xanmod1 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.1.0 Distro: antiX-21-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 30 October 2021 Machine: Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%) CPU: Info: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 2941 min/max: 400/4056 Graphics: Device-1: AMD Lucienne driver: amdgpu v: kernel Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.5 renderer: AMD RENOIR (DRM 3.48.0 6.0.7-x64v3-xanmod1 LLVM 11.0.1) Network: Device-1: Realtek driver: rtw89_8852ae Drives: Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 29.98 GiB (12.6%) Info: Processes: 287 Uptime: 1h 1m Memory: 7.1 GiB used: 2.49 GiB (35.0%) Shell: Bash pinxi: 3.3.23-3--
Brian Masinicktechore
nothing anywhere near as “cool” as what @techore: posted yesterday
Thank you, Brian. I have a relatively small stable in comparison to you. 🙂
@masinick, I have been meaning to ask you (and the others) what kernel would you recommend for AMD 5000 family CPU an 6000 family GPU? I assembled a desktop and bought a laptop with parts manufactured in 2020 to 2021.
At cursory glance, I believe I saw support as far back as 5.10.x <– I don’t recall what patch, but interested in your opinion not only for the version but do I go with antiX kernel or Liquorix kernel or something entirely different?
Thank you.
techore
@techore: I spotted your use of fish as your shell; very cool!
Yes. Still learning its quirks but nice to have all the features you can get with zsh without the work. Only annoyance is autocomplete which I need to fix or break. I am set in my ways, I suppose.
Brian Masinick
For the HP-14, which has an AMD Ryzen 5 5500U 6 core CPU chipset, anti told me I needed a newer kernel, so I just copied one of the newer ones I had on a working MX Linux system with AHS, Advanced Hardware Support.
Actually the system will boot, it just doesn’t support the wireless modules I needed.
My approach was to find a system that works and was as similar as possible; that made copying files between partitions and systems easier.
Copying the kernel wasn’t enough; I discovered that the wireless modules were incomplete so I fixed that and discovered that there are also library directories matching each kernel.
When each of these three components are copied (entire directory tree for each) then wireless networks function properly,
Summary: you can get antiX to work with a new hardware unit IF you can find a similar distribution that works, then copy all components that need to be changed or added:
* Wireless network modules for your card
* a kernel that has support for all of your hardware and
* the modules and libraries that are required for the kernel you are supporting--
Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
Regarding the Liquorix kernel series, yes they are very good for interactive workload and modern hardware.
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rokytnji
looking over here. It does not seem your wifi chip is too exotic technore.
http://linux-hardware.org/?id=pci:10ec-b822-103c-831b
supported by kernels 4.14 and newer. Not sure why n/a shows up in your inxi report.I am here on my chromebook my wife bought me.
So no /system specs in this post.I did pull the trigger on 5th generation I3 Intel NUC box. Cost 50 bucks with no OS. Waiting on mini hdmi adapters I ordered that I don’t have.
Also pulled the Trigger on Dell P22 Chromebook with Kali Linux preinstalled. 50 bucks also
So. One down for hdmi connector. The Kali Chromebook aint here yet.
The NUC is going to be a antiX 22 Full Iso 64 bit box.
When the adapters get here. I’ll post the specs here in the thread.Paypal is easier on my chromebook. Plus I need to boot it up once in a while. It’ll be a antiX box also later when the updates quit. it is a HP X360 chromebook.
Works OK for a google box.Sometimes I drive a crooked road to get my mind straight.
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