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andyprough
I’m back on my 2011 17-inch Dell Inspiron today, using antiX-21 Libre respin 32-bit. The cpu is 64-bit, but 32-bit antiX runs with about half the memory. The kernel is Linux-libre, and there’s an Atheros AR9271 usb wifi dongle providing the internet with libre drivers inside the kernel. For an 11-year-old computer, it’s still pretty snappy, and the full-sized keyboard and number pad on this laptop is very comfortable.
The usb wifi dongle has a long cord and a 6-inch-long antenna, and I tape the whole mess to the top of the laptop lid to keep it portable and keep from getting tangled in the cord.
inxi -Fxz System: Kernel: 4.19.246-gnu1 i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 11.3.0 Desktop: JWM 2.4.0 Distro: antiX-21_386-base Grup Yorum 31 October 2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) Machine: Type: Portable System: Dell product: Inspiron N7010 v: A04 serial: <filter> Mobo: Dell model: N/A v: A04 serial: <filter> BIOS: Dell v: A04 date: 06/11/2010 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 1.5 Wh (100.0%) condition: 1.5/4.4 Wh (35.2%) volts: 12.2 min: 11.1 model: SIMPLO Dell status: Charging CPU: Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5 M 460 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Nehalem rev: 5 cache: L2: 3 MiB flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 20216 Speed: 1625 MHz min/max: 1199/2534 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1625 2: 1704 3: 2180 4: 1911 Graphics: Device-1: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 Device-2: Microdia 1.3 MPixel Integrated Webcam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-1.4:3 Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1600x900~60Hz OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (ILK) v: 2.1 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes Audio: Device-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k4.19.246-gnu1 running: yes Network: Device-1: Intel Centrino Advanced-N + WiMAX 6250 [Kilmer Peak] driver: N/A port: 1860 bus-ID: 03:00.0 Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR8152 v1.1 Fast Ethernet vendor: Dell driver: atl1c v: 1.0.1.1-NAPI port: 2000 bus-ID: 04:00.0 IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> Device-3: IMC Networks AW-NU137 802.11bgn Wireless Module [Atheros AR9271] type: USB driver: ath9k_htc bus-ID: 2-1.2:3 IF: wlan1 state: up mac: <filter> Drives: Local Storage: total: 223.57 GiB used: 3.77 GiB (1.7%) ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Kingston model: SA400S37240G size: 223.57 GiB Partition: ID-1: / size: 214.69 GiB used: 3.77 GiB (1.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 Swap: ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 4.37 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) dev: /dev/sda2 Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 53.0 C mobo: 0.0 C Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 Info: Processes: 151 Uptime: 24m Memory: 5.65 GiB used: 1.09 GiB (19.3%) Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: N/A Packages: 1214 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 inxi: 3.3.06calciumsodium
A friend had given me an old motherboard built in 2003. I put together a computer based on that motherboard from various computer parts. The chassis from one computer, a CD drive from another computer, a hard drive from a different computer. An old graphics card from I don’t know where. I was able find two ram sticks totaling 500 MB that would fit on this computer. I was able to install antiX21 nonpae 32 bit OS on this computer. I am typing this post in Palemoon. I check my email and get the local weather radar without any problems using Seamonkey on this computer. I use ytfzf to watch youtube videos at 240p resolution. Any higher resolution is too much for this old machine. So this frankenstein computer is almost 20 years old running the latest Seamonkey and Palemoon on antiX21. How cool is that?
Also, I have a windows partition that runs windows 7. I was able to hook up an old 3.5″ floppy drive. I was able to load some old DOS chess games on some 3.5″ floppy disks. I run those old DOS chess games directly using windows 7. No need for DOSBOX when you have the original DOS.
$ inxi -Fxz System: Kernel: 4.9.0-294-antix.1-486-smp i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 Desktop: IceWM 2.7.0 Distro: antiX-21-b2_386-full Grup Yorum 6 September 2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) Machine: Type: Unknown Mobo: Intel model: D845PEBT2 v: AAC12587-405 serial: <filter> BIOS: Intel v: BT84520A.86A.0024.P10.0308081142 date: 08/08/2003 CPU: Info: Single Core model: Intel Celeron bits: 32 type: MCP arch: Netburst Northwood rev: 7 cache: L2: 128 KiB flags: pae sse sse2 bogomips: 4800 Speed: 2400 MHz min/max: N/A Core speed (MHz): 1: 2400 Graphics: Device-1: NVIDIA NV5 [Riva TNT2 Model 64 / Model 64 Pro] driver: nouveau v: kernel bus-ID: 02:00.0 Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: nouveau unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1280x1024~60Hz OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI nv05 x86/MMX/SSE2 v: 1.2 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes Audio: Device-1: Intel 82801DB/DBL/DBM AC97 Audio driver: snd_intel8x0 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1f.5 Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k4.9.0-294-antix.1-486-smp running: yes Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: no Network: Device-1: Intel 82801DB PRO/100 VE Ethernet driver: e100 v: 3.5.24-k2-NAPI port: d080 bus-ID: 02:08.0 IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> Device-2: Realtek RTL8188FTV 802.11b/g/n 1T1R 2.4G WLAN Adapter type: USB driver: rtl8188fu bus-ID: 1-2:2 IF: wlan1 state: up mac: <filter> Drives: Local Storage: total: 37.29 GiB used: 11.47 GiB (30.8%) ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Maxtor model: 4K040H2 size: 37.29 GiB Partition: ID-1: / size: 20.12 GiB used: 11.47 GiB (57.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 Swap: ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 2 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) dev: /dev/sda2 Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 37.0 C mobo: 24.0 C Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 4724 fan-2: 0 fan-3: 0 fan-4: 0 Power: 12v: 11.88 5v: 5.13 3.3v: 3.32 vbat: N/A Info: Processes: 137 Uptime: 2m Memory: 493 MiB used: 116 MiB (23.5%) Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 Packages: 2028 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 inxi: 3.3.06
Brian Masinick
@calciumsodium: I see that I am not the only one who sometimes uses old Alpha and Beta test versions.
I noticed that depending on which images I’m using, some of them are x64 images and others are amd64 images.
I may have some 32 images around somewhere but all of my frequently used systems are now 64-bit systems.
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Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
I think it is VERY COOL that you can put together components that are collectively around 20 years old and get a moderately functional system.
I took out some REALLY old CDs several months ago and had difficulty even finding a system where they’d work!
I AM able to go back as far as antiX 17.4 or 17.5 on this Dell Inspiron 5558 laptop; it may be possible to go back somewhat earlier than that, but of course the capabilities are limited.I’ll have to get on that HP laptop with the broken hinge and see how old it is; EDIT: Found my reference to the HP; yours is at least 5 years older:
Hewlett-Packard product: HP Compaq 2510p Notebook PC v: F.0E serial: <filter> Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 30C9 v: KBC Version 75.28 serial: <filter> BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: 68MSP Ver. F.0E date: 11/04/2008Anyway, congratulations on your efforts. I love running old stuff too when I can get a hold of it; I had a much larger set of old systems and disks in the past; in fact, at one point an old friend from the New York area actually drove one day from a northern NYC suburb all the way up to Concord, NH and gave me a trunk full of systems that people actually put out on the curb. Not every system worked by itself, but I took components from several of them, sometimes fans or power supplies, sometimes disks or whatever worked; it provided me with stuff to experiment with for at least a couple of years!
- This reply was modified 11 months, 1 week ago by Brian Masinick.
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Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
I’m back once again with my Dell Latitude 5558 laptop today, and I’m continuing with testing various systems. After using quite a few of my antiX images, here’s the MX-21.1_x64 Wildflower October 20 2021, updated today with the most recent Bullseye version of the Liquorix kernel. Note that
Liquorix also has 5.18 kernels available in their unstable repository; I noticed at least one of them earlier today.inxi -Fxz System: Kernel: 5.17.0-13.1-liquorix-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 Distro: MX-21.1_x64 Wildflower October 20 2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) Machine: Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Inspiron 5558 v: 01 serial: <superuser required> Mobo: Dell model: 086DKN v: A00 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Dell v: A04 date: 08/06/2015 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 30.1 Wh (100.0%) condition: 30.1/41.4 Wh (72.6%) volts: 16.2 min: 14.8 model: Samsung SDI DELL 07G07587587 status: Full CPU: Info: dual core model: Intel Core i7-5500U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Broadwell rev: 4 cache: L1: 128 KiB L2: 512 KiB L3: 4 MiB Speed (MHz): avg: 2932 high: 2981 min/max: 500/2401 boost: enabled cores: 1: 2959 2: 2894 3: 2981 4: 2895 bogomips: 19156 Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx Graphics: Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 5500 vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 Device-2: NVIDIA GK208BM [GeForce 920M] vendor: Dell driver: N/A bus-ID: 08:00.0 Device-3: Suyin Integrated_Webcam_HD type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 2-5:3 Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1366x768~60Hz OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 5500 (BDW GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes Audio: Device-1: Intel Broadwell-U Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:03.0 Device-2: Intel Wildcat Point-LP High Definition Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 Device-3: NVIDIA GK208 HDMI/DP Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 08:00.1 Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.17.0-13.1-liquorix-amd64 running: yes Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes Network: Device-1: Intel Wireless 3160 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel bus-ID: 06:00.0 IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> Device-2: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet vendor: Dell driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e000 bus-ID: 07:00.0 IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> Bluetooth: Device-1: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 2-6:4 Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.0 Drives: Local Storage: total: 447.13 GiB used: 9.64 GiB (2.2%) ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Kingston model: SA400S37480G size: 447.13 GiB temp: 28 C Partition: ID-1: / size: 116.6 GiB used: 9.64 GiB (8.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda7 ID-2: /boot/efi size: 98.4 MiB used: 2.1 MiB (2.1%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda1 Swap: Alert: No swap data was found. Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 65.0 C mobo: 25.0 C sodimm: SODIMM C Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 4000 Info: Processes: 188 Uptime: 14m Memory: 7.68 GiB used: 1.15 GiB (15.0%) Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 Packages: 2078 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 inxi: 3.3.12--
Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
I switched to the HP Compaq 2510p Notebook PC and I installed all of the antiX 4.9.0-294 kernels, amd64-smp, 686-smp-pae and 486-smp.
If time permits I will test each of them.
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Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
I don’t know why but the only kernels that boot are the amd64 kernels; the other ones kernel panic, have difficulty properly reading and utilizing the initrd images even though they exist.
It ended up worse than that; the presence of the other images seemed to mess up cmst too and I was unable to use the network. I removed all 294 kernels, rebooted and it works again. I’m concerned that the hardware is not working very well but it’s not a primary system so I can experiment.
Oh well, here is what works:
inxi -Fxz System: Kernel: 4.9.0-279-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 Desktop: IceWM 2.9.7 Distro: antiX-21-runit_x64-base Grup Yorum 30 October 2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) Machine: Type: Laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Compaq 2510p Notebook PC v: F.0E serial: <filter> Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 30C9 v: KBC Version 75.28 serial: <filter> BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: 68MSP Ver. F.0E date: 11/04/2008 Battery: ID-1: C23D charge: 33.9 Wh (45.4%) condition: 74.6/74.6 Wh (100.0%) volts: 11.7 min: 10.8 model: Hewlett-Packard Primary status: Unknown CPU: Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo U7600 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Core Merom rev: D cache: L2: 2 MiB flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 4788 Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 800/1200 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800 Graphics: Device-1: Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: intel resolution: 1280x800~60Hz OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 965GM (CL) v: 2.1 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes Audio: Device-1: Intel 82801H HD Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k4.9.0-279-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes Network: Device-1: Intel 82566MM Gigabit Network vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: 2060 bus-ID: 00:19.0 IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> Device-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network driver: iwl4965 v: in-tree: port: 2120 bus-ID: 10:00.0 IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> Drives: Local Storage: total: 74.53 GiB used: 3.56 GiB (4.8%) ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Toshiba model: MK8009GAH size: 74.53 GiB Partition: ID-1: / size: 69.85 GiB used: 3.56 GiB (5.1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 Swap: ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 3 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) dev: /dev/sda2 Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 59.0 C mobo: 25.0 C Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A Info: Processes: 171 Uptime: 9m Memory: 1.93 GiB used: 966.1 MiB (48.8%) Init: runit runlevel: 2 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 Packages: 1216 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 inxi: 3.3.06- This reply was modified 11 months, 1 week ago by Brian Masinick.
- This reply was modified 11 months, 1 week ago by Brian Masinick.
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Brian MasinickLinux-libre
I downloaded @andyprough’s antiX libre respin that fits into a CD. I was able to pare down the iso without having to uninstall any programs. As a result, I was able to create an iso that contains both abrowser and seamonkey that came in at 635 MB, enough to fit into one of my old 650 MB CDs. I also learned how to update the libre kernel. @andyprough’s iso had the 4.9.309-gnu1 kernel. I was able to update to the 316 kernel and purge the 309 kernel.
Basically I had to sudo apt install
linux-firmware-image-4.9.316-gnu1 linux-image-4.9.316-gnu1 linux-libre-4-9and then sudo apt purge
linux-firmware-image-4.9.309-gnu1 linux-image-4.9.309-gnu1This kernel update and purge of the old kernel produced an iso snapshot of 637 MB.
I am running this antiX21 libre respin on this old laptop that I had bought brand new for my oldest son 8 years ago. He gave it back to me last year with the mouse touchpad broken and a broken hard drive. I run this antiX21 libre respin live as a CD. I also found a way to use the keyboard numeric pad as a mouse.
antix@antix:~ $ inxi -Fxz System: Kernel: 4.9.316-gnu1 i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 11.3.0 Desktop: IceWM 2.9.6 Distro: antiX-21_386-base Grup Yorum 31 October 2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) Machine: Type: Laptop System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite C55-B v: PSCMLU-03X09J serial: <filter> Mobo: TOSHIBA model: ZBWAA v: 1.00 serial: <filter> UEFI: TOSHIBA v: 1.40 date: 07/25/2014 Battery: ID-1: BAT1 charge: 1.5 Wh (14.4%) condition: 10.4/31.7 Wh (32.8%) volts: 14.7 min: 14.4 model: TOSHIBA PABAS0241231 status: Charging CPU: Info: Dual Core model: Intel Celeron N2840 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Silvermont rev: 8 cache: L2: 1024 KiB flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 8663 Speed: 520 MHz min/max: 500/2582 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 520 2: 1481 Graphics: Device-1: Intel Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Graphics & Display vendor: Toshiba driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 Device-2: Chicony TOSHIBA Web Camera - HD type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-3:2 Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1366x768~60Hz OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (BYT) v: 4.2 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes Audio: Device-1: Intel Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series High Definition Audio vendor: Toshiba driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k4.9.316-gnu1 running: yes Network: Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Lite-On driver: ath9k v: kernel port: f000 bus-ID: 02:00.0 IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> Drives: Local Storage: total: 0 KiB used: 0 KiB Partition: Message: No partition data found. Swap: Alert: No swap data was found. Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 35.0 C mobo: N/A Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A Info: Processes: 128 Uptime: 3m Memory: 3.76 GiB used: 479.9 MiB (12.5%) Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: N/A Packages: 1198 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 inxi: 3.3.06 antix@antix:~ $Brian Masinick
Very cool @calciumsodium: !
Looking forward to seeing more of your creativity with ~20 year old hardware.--
Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
Wonder of wonders! I found an antiX-16.2_x64-full Berta Cáceres 15 June 2017 USB in my little box of USB sticks and it actually boots and runs with this old HP Compaq 2510p Notebook!
I also found a REALLY old antiX M11 disk but that one may have been damaged; it started to boot but failed to recognize any kernel,though in theory it would work on this old box.Anyway, here is the proof on this one! Notice the OLD version of inxi and everything else!
inxi -Fxz System: Host: antix1 Kernel: 4.4.10-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 4.9.2) Desktop: IceWM 1.3.8 Distro: antiX-16.2_x64-full Berta Cáceres 15 June 2017 Machine: Device: laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Compaq 2510p Notebook PC v: F.0E Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 30C9 v: KBC Version 75.28 BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: 68MSP Ver. F.0E date: 11/04/2008 Battery C23D: charge: 31.4 Wh 45.5% condition: 69.1/69.1 Wh (100%) model: Hewlett-Packard Primary status: N/A CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 Duo U7600 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 4788 clock speeds: max: 1200 MHz 1: 1067 MHz 2: 933 MHz Graphics: Card: Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) bus-ID: 00:02.0 Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 driver: intel Resolution: 1280x800@60.00hz GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 965GM GLX Version: 2.1 Direct Rendering: Yes Audio: Card Intel 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.10-antix.1-amd64-smp Network: Card-1: Intel 82566MM Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: 2060 bus-ID: 00:19.0 IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> Card-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection driver: iwl4965 v: in-tree: bus-ID: 10:00.0 IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> Drives: HDD Total Size: 112.1GB (3.4% used) ID-1: /dev/sda model: TOSHIBA_MK8009GA size: 80.0GB ID-2: USB /dev/sdb model: Flash_Drive size: 32.1GB Partition: ID-1: / size: 1.6G used: 28M (2%) fs: overlay dev: N/A ID-2: swap-1 size: 3.22GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2 Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 60.0C mobo: 25.0C Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A Info: Processes: 142 Uptime: 9 min Memory: 401.7/1979.3MB Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.9.2 Client: Shell (bash 4.3.301) inxi: 2.3.21--
Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
I found a “similar” USB image, antiX-16_x64-full Berta Cáceres 26 June 2016. I got this one to work with wicd; I got ceni to work with the antiX 16.2 image:
inxi -Fxz System: Host: antix1 Kernel: 4.4.10-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 4.9.3) Desktop: IceWM 1.3.8 Distro: antiX-16_x64-full Berta Cáceres 26 June 2016 Machine: System: Hewlett-Packard (portable) product: HP Compaq 2510p Notebook PC v: F.0E Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 30C9 v: KBC Version 75.28 Bios: Hewlett-Packard v: 68MSP Ver. F.0E date: 11/04/2008 Battery C23D: charge: 31.4 Wh 45.5% condition: 69.1/69.1 Wh (100%) model: Hewlett-Packard Primary status: N/A CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 Duo U7600 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 4788 clock speeds: max: 1200 MHz 1: 1200 MHz 2: 1200 MHz Graphics: Card: Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) bus-ID: 00:02.0 Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 driver: intel Resolution: 1280x800@60.00hz GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 965GM GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 10.3.2 Direct Rendering: Yes Audio: Card Intel 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.10-antix.1-amd64-smp Network: Card-1: Intel 82566MM Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: 2060 bus-ID: 00:19.0 IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> Card-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection driver: iwl4965 v: in-tree: bus-ID: 10:00.0 IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> Drives: HDD Total Size: 95.5GB (5.2% used) ID-1: /dev/sda model: TOSHIBA_MK8009GA size: 80.0GB ID-2: USB /dev/sdb model: DataTraveler_2.0 size: 15.5GB Partition: ID-1: / size: 1.6G used: 30M (2%) fs: overlay dev: N/A ID-2: swap-1 size: 3.22GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2 Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 68.0C mobo: 25.0C Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A Info: Processes: 144 Uptime: 9 min Memory: 384.9/1979.4MB Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.9.2 Client: Shell (bash 4.3.301) inxi: 2.3.0- This reply was modified 11 months, 1 week ago by Brian Masinick.
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Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
Despite the age of this system (2011 vs. the 2015 date of my Dell Inspiron 5558), this one, in my opinion, was made with higher quality components.
Even at over a decade old, this runs well with either antiX or MX Linux (or Debian, for that matter).This is my final comparison of the day (and I’ve shown this one before):
inxi -Fxz System: Kernel: 5.11.0-21.2-liquorix-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 Desktop: IceWM 2.9.7 Distro: antiX-21-runit_x64-base Grup Yorum 30 October 2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) Machine: Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 3249CTO v: ThinkPad X201 serial: <filter> Mobo: LENOVO model: 3249CTO serial: <filter> BIOS: LENOVO v: 6QET66WW (1.36 ) date: 05/31/2011 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 79.4 Wh (100.0%) condition: 79.4/84.2 Wh (94.2%) volts: 12.2 min: 10.8 model: Panasonic 42T4696 status: Full CPU: Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core i7 M 620 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Nehalem rev: 5 cache: L2: 4 MiB flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 bogomips: 21279 Speed: 3216 MHz min/max: 1199/2667 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 3216 2: 1584 3: 2854 4: 1589 Graphics: Device-1: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 Device-2: Lenovo Integrated Webcam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-1.6:5 Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: intel resolution: 1280x800~60Hz OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (ILK) v: 2.1 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes Audio: Device-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.11.0-21.2-liquorix-amd64 running: yes Network: Device-1: Intel 82577LM Gigabit Network vendor: Lenovo driver: e1000e v: kernel port: 1820 bus-ID: 00:19.0 IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> Device-2: Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: 1880 bus-ID: 02:00.0 IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> Drives: Local Storage: total: 119.24 GiB used: 8.46 GiB (7.1%) ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Toshiba model: THNS128GG4BAAA-NonFDE size: 119.24 GiB Partition: ID-1: / size: 110.9 GiB used: 8.46 GiB (7.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 Swap: ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 6 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) dev: /dev/sda2 Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 42.0 C mobo: 0.0 C Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 1956 Info: Processes: 169 Uptime: 14m Memory: 7.58 GiB used: 479.2 MiB (6.2%) Init: runit runlevel: 2 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 Packages: 1255 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 inxi: 3.3.06--
Brian Masinickandyprough
I downloaded @andyprough’s antiX libre respin that fits into a CD. I was able to pare down the iso without having to uninstall any programs. As a result, I was able to create an iso that contains both abrowser and seamonkey that came in at 635 MB, enough to fit into one of my old 650 MB CDs. I also learned how to update the libre kernel. @andyprough’s iso had the 4.9.309-gnu1 kernel. I was able to update to the 316 kernel and purge the 309 kernel.
Basically I had to sudo apt install
linux-firmware-image-4.9.316-gnu1 linux-image-4.9.316-gnu1 linux-libre-4-9and then sudo apt purge
linux-firmware-image-4.9.309-gnu1 linux-image-4.9.309-gnu1This kernel update and purge of the old kernel produced an iso snapshot of 637 MB.
I am running this antiX21 libre respin on this old laptop that I had bought brand new for my oldest son 8 years ago. He gave it back to me last year with the mouse touchpad broken and a broken hard drive. I run this antiX21 libre respin live as a CD. I also found a way to use the keyboard numeric pad as a mouse.
That’s awesome @calciumsodium, glad to see that the libre respin is coming in handy for you. And you’ve got the Atheros AR9485 wifi card that runs with the libre kernel drivers, so you probably have good wifi I assume. Very cool the way that you upgraded the ISO. What packages were you able to remove from the ISO in order to get it down smaller? I felt like I was taking out everything I could without making it non-functional, I’d be interested how you got it so much smaller so I can do that in the future.
Hi @Brian,
I enjoyed learning about your different computer setups and enjoy reading your comments.And you’ve got the Atheros AR9485 wifi card that runs with the libre kernel drivers, so you probably have good wifi I assume. Very cool the way that you upgraded the ISO. What packages were you able to remove from the ISO in order to get it down smaller? I felt like I was taking out everything I could without making it non-functional, I’d be interested how you got it so much smaller so I can do that in the future.
I get very good wifi on this machine. On other machines that I have, I have buffering issues when watching youtube videos using ytfzf. Never on this machine. The cache builds up very quickly when watching youtube videos using ytfzf on this machine. Thanks for letting me know that the wifi card is optimized for the libre kernel drivers.
How did I pare down the original iso?
This is how I did it. Others might not like the approach. But I wanted to make something that would work for me.
First, I made it a requirement not to delete any programs. Because each program in antiX is useful eventually.
I found out that most of the nonprogram disk space was taken up by the folder /user/share/locale. In your original iso, that folder took up I think 188 Mb of disk space. In my antiX21 64 bit system, that I am typing up this post from, this folder has 320 Mb. Since I am mainly fluid in english, I deleted every folder but the /usr/share/locale/en folder.
That wiped away almost all of the 188 Mb of disk space that the iso took. If a person uses a different locale, then keep that particular locale that you are using and then delete everything else. Or keep a few folders that are useful.
Then /usr/share/doc takes up a lot of space also. I copied that folder as a backup for future reference and then I deleted the entire folder.
I only use the antiX theme in slim/slimski. So I kept the /usr/share/slimski/antiX folder, but deleted every other folder in /usr/share/slimski
This next one is at your own risk. I deleted some of the folders in /usr/share/icons. I predominantly use icewm so I kept the antiX-papirus and the default. I basically kept everything that has to do with papirus and deleted everything else. But after several trials and errors, it was not too bad. I miss some icons. But if you are going to use other window managers, best to leave the /usr/share/icons folder alone.
The abrowser folder actually had some locale in it. So I deleted the ones I did not use.
One can delete a lot more, but I stopped there. I started with the antiX libre respin that had the abrowser. It was originally at 670 Mb size. After doing the above steps, I was able to get it down to about 450 Mb. The abrowser folder alone was 234 Mb. That tells you that the antiX21 base can basically run with only 220 Mb!!!!
I was then able to add seamonkey, add the original ytfzf and the ytfzf v2. I like to use both versions. I was able to install lynx browser in addition to the links2 that your already have. I was able to install DOSBOX and added some chess programs. I actually added more programs than you had in the original iso.
I now have a two different versions of the iso. One with seamonkey and abrowser, and one with seamonkey and kodi with two different addons. The ~/.kodi folder with the two add-ons ended up with 76 Mb of disk space alone. The ~/.mozilla folder that contains the seamonkey config folder ended up with 35 Mb size.
Each of the two different versions of the iso, with the 4.9.316-gnu1 libre kernel, are at 637 Mb size, easily fitting into the 650 Mb CD.- This reply was modified 11 months, 1 week ago by calciumsodium.
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