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April 1, 2023 at 5:04 pm #103841Moderator
Brian Masinick
::pinxi -b System: Host: brian-antix-hp-14fq1025nr Kernel: 6.2.9-1-liquorix-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.2 Distro: antiX-21-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 30 October 2021 Machine: Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%) CPU: Info: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 1924 min/max: 1400/4056 Graphics: Device-1: AMD Lucienne driver: amdgpu v: kernel Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo Display: server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.5 renderer: AMD RENOIR (DRM 3.49.0 6.2.9-1-liquorix-amd64 LLVM 11.0.1) Network: Device-1: Realtek driver: rtw89_8852ae Drives: Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 30.6 GiB (12.8%) Info: Processes: 269 Uptime: 37m Memory: 7.1 GiB used: 1.33 GiB (18.7%) Shell: Bash pinxi: 3.3.26-4--
Brian MasinickApril 2, 2023 at 2:18 pm #103913Moderator
Brian Masinick
::I haven’t been back to my antiX systems today YET, but fear not, if I use my computers much, I always get back to them and I will today too.
I’m here at the start with a family friend, MX Linux –pinxi -b System: Host: mx Kernel: 6.2.9-1-liquorix-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 Distro: MX-21.3_ahs_x64 Wildflower January 15 2023 Machine: Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%) CPU: Info: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 1483 min/max: 1400/4056 Graphics: Device-1: AMD Lucienne driver: amdgpu v: kernel Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.14 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.0.5 renderer: AMD RENOIR (LLVM 14.0.5 DRM 3.49 6.2.9-1-liquorix-amd64) Network: Device-1: Realtek driver: rtw89_8852ae Drives: Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 24.3 GiB (10.2%) Info: Processes: 320 Uptime: 1h 17m Memory: 7.1 GiB used: 2.33 GiB (32.8%) Shell: Bash pinxi: 3.3.26-5--
Brian MasinickApril 2, 2023 at 2:48 pm #103916Moderator
Brian Masinick
::Back with antiX 23 Beta 1
pinxi -b System: Host: antixBeta-hp-14-fq-1025 Kernel: 6.2.9-2-liquorix-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.2 Distro: antiX-23-beta1-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 21 March 2023 Machine: Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%) CPU: Info: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 2355 min/max: 1400/4056 Graphics: Device-1: AMD Lucienne driver: amdgpu v: kernel Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: AMD Radeon Graphics (renoir LLVM 15.0.6 DRM 3.49 6.2.9-2-liquorix-amd64) Network: Device-1: Realtek driver: rtw89_8852ae Drives: Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 20.31 GiB (8.5%) Info: Processes: 235 Uptime: 11m Memory: 7.09 GiB used: 1.27 GiB (17.9%) Shell: Bash pinxi: 3.3.26-5--
Brian MasinickApril 2, 2023 at 11:37 pm #103953Forum Admin
rokytnji
::harry@shop:~ $ curl wttr.in/pecos Weather report: pecos \ / Sunny .-. +86(80) °F ― ( ) ― ↗ 16 mph9 mi
/ \ 0.0 in `Finishing up my fence. Out in the shop rearranging antiX shop computer also. Kinda spring cleaning. Lots of dust.
harry@shop:~ $ pinxi -Aa -Fxxxz System: Kernel: 5.10.153-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.153-antix.1-amd64-smp root=UUID=f1b7ea1f-dd9f-479b-8bf1-56d1ac2e1a8b ro quiet Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.2 vt: 7 dm: slimski v: 1.5.0 Distro: antiX-21_x64-full Grup Yorum 31 October 2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) Machine: Type: Desktop System: LENOVO product: 6075BHU v: ThinkCentre M57 serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 3 serial: <superuser required> Mobo: LENOVO model: LENOVO serial: <superuser required> BIOS: LENOVO v: 2RKT41AUS date: 03/20/2008 CPU: Info: model: Intel Pentium Dual E2160 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Core2 Merom level: v1 built: 2006-09 process: Intel 65nm family: 6 model-id: 0xF (15) stepping: 0xD (13) microcode: 0xA4 Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 128 KiB desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB L2: 1024 KiB desc: 1x1024 KiB Speed (MHz): avg: 1512 high: 1760 min/max: 1200/1800 scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: performance cores: 1: 1760 2: 1264 bogomips: 7181harry@shop:~ $ pinxi -Aa -Fxxxz System: Kernel: 5.10.153-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.153-antix.1-amd64-smp root=UUID=f1b7ea1f-dd9f-479b-8bf1-56d1ac2e1a8b ro quiet Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.2 vt: 7 dm: slimski v: 1.5.0 Distro: antiX-21_x64-full Grup Yorum 31 October 2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) Machine: Type: Desktop System: LENOVO product: 6075BHU v: ThinkCentre M57 serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 3 serial: <superuser required> Mobo: LENOVO model: LENOVO serial: <superuser required> BIOS: LENOVO v: 2RKT41AUS date: 03/20/2008 CPU: Info: model: Intel Pentium Dual E2160 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Core2 Merom level: v1 built: 2006-09 process: Intel 65nm family: 6 model-id: 0xF (15) stepping: 0xD (13) microcode: 0xA4 Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 128 KiB desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB L2: 1024 KiB desc: 1x1024 KiB Speed (MHz): avg: 1512 high: 1760 min/max: 1200/1800 scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: performance cores: 1: 1760 2: 1264 bogomips: 7181 Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations Type: retbleed status: Not affected Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected Type: srbds status: Not affected Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected Graphics: Device-1: Intel 82Q35 Express Integrated Graphics vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-4 process: Intel 65n built: 2006-07 ports: active: VGA-1 empty: none bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:29b2 class-ID: 0300 Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: intel unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: i915 gpu: i915 display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1280x1024 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 338x270mm (13.31x10.63") s-diag: 433mm (17.03") Monitor-1: VGA-1 mapped: VGA1 model: ViewSonic VA912-3SERIES serial: <filter> built: 2006 res: 1280x1024 hz: 60 dpi: 86 gamma: 1.2 size: 380x300mm (14.96x11.81") diag: 482mm (19") ratio: 5:4 modes: max: 1280x1024 min: 720x400 API: OpenGL v: 1.4 Mesa 20.3.5 renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Q35 direct-render: Yes Audio: Device-1: Intel 82801I HD Audio vendor: Lenovo driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:293e class-ID: 0403 API: ALSA v: k5.10.153-antix.1-amd64-smp status: kernel-api with: apulse type: pulse-emulator tools: alsamixer,amixer Network: Device-1: Intel 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network vendor: Lenovo driver: e1000e v: kernel port: 1820 bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:10bd class-ID: 0200 IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> Device-2: Realtek RTL8191SU 802.11n WLAN Adapter type: USB driver: r8712u bus-ID: 2-6.4:5 chip-ID: 0bda:8172 class-ID: 0000 serial: <filter> IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> Drives: Local Storage: total: 298.09 GiB used: 30.81 GiB (10.3%) SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WD3200AAKS-00B3A0 size: 298.09 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: <unknown> type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 3A01 scheme: MBR Partition: ID-1: / raw-size: 257.62 GiB size: 252.52 GiB (98.02%) used: 30.81 GiB (12.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda4 maj-min: 8:4 Swap: Kernel: swappiness: 10 (default 60) cache-pressure: 50 (default 100) ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 3.91 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 55.0 C mobo: N/A Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A Info: Processes: 137 Uptime: 43m wakeups: 1 Memory: 3.58 GiB used: 1.09 GiB (30.5%) Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: service Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 1691 libs: 801 tools: apt,apt-get,synaptic Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 running-in: roxterm pinxi: 3.3.26-1 Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations Type: retbleed status: Not affected Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected Type: srbds status: Not affected Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected Graphics: Device-1: Intel 82Q35 Express Integrated Graphics vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-4 process: Intel 65n built: 2006-07 ports: active: VGA-1 empty: none bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:29b2 class-ID: 0300 Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: intel unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: i915 gpu: i915 display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1280x1024 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 338x270mm (13.31x10.63") s-diag: 433mm (17.03") Monitor-1: VGA-1 mapped: VGA1 model: ViewSonic VA912-3SERIES serial: <filter> built: 2006 res: 1280x1024 hz: 60 dpi: 86 gamma: 1.2 size: 380x300mm (14.96x11.81") diag: 482mm (19") ratio: 5:4 modes: max: 1280x1024 min: 720x400 API: OpenGL v: 1.4 Mesa 20.3.5 renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Q35 direct-render: Yes Audio: Device-1: Intel 82801I HD Audio vendor: Lenovo driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:293e class-ID: 0403 API: ALSA v: k5.10.153-antix.1-amd64-smp status: kernel-api with: apulse type: pulse-emulator tools: alsamixer,amixer Network: Device-1: Intel 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network vendor: Lenovo driver: e1000e v: kernel port: 1820 bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:10bd class-ID: 0200 IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> Device-2: Realtek RTL8191SU 802.11n WLAN Adapter type: USB driver: r8712u bus-ID: 2-6.4:5 chip-ID: 0bda:8172 class-ID: 0000 serial: <filter> IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> Drives: Local Storage: total: 298.09 GiB used: 30.81 GiB (10.3%) SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WD3200AAKS-00B3A0 size: 298.09 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: <unknown> type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 3A01 scheme: MBR Partition: ID-1: / raw-size: 257.62 GiB size: 252.52 GiB (98.02%) used: 30.81 GiB (12.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda4 maj-min: 8:4 Swap: Kernel: swappiness: 10 (default 60) cache-pressure: 50 (default 100) ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 3.91 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 55.0 C mobo: N/A Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A Info: Processes: 137 Uptime: 43m wakeups: 1 Memory: 3.58 GiB used: 1.09 GiB (30.5%) Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: service Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 1691 libs: 801 tools: apt,apt-get,synaptic Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 running-in: roxterm pinxi: 3.3.26-1Old workhorse stays running. Best 50 bucks I ever spent.
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How to Search for AntiX solutions to your problemsApril 3, 2023 at 11:57 am #103988Moderator
Brian Masinick
::@rokytnji looks like your weather warmed up more than ours. We had a couple of pretty warm days, then some high winds brought in change, some rain overnight between Friday and Saturday then temps right around 70 the rest of the weekend, which was actually quite nice.
As far as systems go I have one Lenovo X201 laptop I got free from my brother in law. He had at least three computer systems, two laptops and a desktop with a large monitor that were pretty good systems in their day. I’ve done the most with the X201. It was running hot but I opened it up recently and carefully adjusted a few things and put it back together. The last time I used it I carefully placed it on top of my HP-14 laptop. Not sure if it was placing it on top of the aluminum chassis or opening and closing the unit that helped but the last time I used it the system ran well for several hours with antiX 23 Beta 1 installed.
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Brian MasinickApril 3, 2023 at 3:33 pm #104002Moderator
Brian Masinick
::Monday, April 2, 2023
pinxi -b System: Host: antixBeta-hp-14-fq-1025 Kernel: 6.1.18-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.2 Distro: antiX-23-beta1-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 21 March 2023 Machine: Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%) CPU: Info: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 1691 min/max: 1400/4056 Graphics: Device-1: AMD Lucienne driver: amdgpu v: kernel Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: AMD Radeon Graphics (renoir LLVM 15.0.6 DRM 3.49 6.1.18-antix.1-amd64-smp) Network: Device-1: Realtek driver: rtw89_8852ae Drives: Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 19.67 GiB (8.2%) Info: Processes: 245 Uptime: 4m Memory: 7.1 GiB used: 676.9 MiB (9.3%) Shell: Bash pinxi: 3.3.26-7--
Brian MasinickApril 3, 2023 at 5:58 pm #104010Moderator
Brian Masinick
::pinxi -b System: Host: brian-antix-hp-14fq1025nr Kernel: 6.2.9-x64v3-xanmod1 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.2 Distro: antiX-21-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 30 October 2021 Machine: Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%) CPU: Info: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 1985 min/max: 1400/4056 Graphics: Device-1: AMD Lucienne driver: amdgpu v: kernel Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo Display: server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.5 renderer: AMD RENOIR (DRM 3.49.0 6.2.9-x64v3-xanmod1 LLVM 11.0.1) Network: Device-1: Realtek driver: rtw89_8852ae Drives: Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 30.95 GiB (13.0%) Info: Processes: 275 Uptime: 3m Memory: 7.09 GiB used: 616.8 MiB (8.5%) Shell: Bash pinxi: 3.3.26-7--
Brian MasinickApril 3, 2023 at 7:37 pm #104012Moderator
Brian Masinick
::https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/travelers-rest/29690/weather-forecast/340598
Current Weather
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Cloud Ceiling 5300 ft- This reply was modified 1 month, 1 week ago by Brian Masinick.
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Brian MasinickApril 3, 2023 at 7:39 pm #104014Moderator
Brian Masinick
::pinxi -Gb System: Host: antixBeta-hp-14-fq-1025 Kernel: 6.2.9-4-liquorix-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.2 Distro: antiX-23-beta1-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 21 March 2023 Machine: Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%) CPU: Info: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 1982 min/max: 1400/4056 Graphics: Device-1: AMD Lucienne driver: amdgpu v: kernel Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: AMD Radeon Graphics (renoir LLVM 15.0.6 DRM 3.49 6.2.9-4-liquorix-amd64) Network: Device-1: Realtek driver: rtw89_8852ae Drives: Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 19.67 GiB (8.2%) Info: Processes: 230 Uptime: 1m Memory: 7.08 GiB used: 624.6 MiB (8.6%) Shell: Bash pinxi: 3.3.26-7--
Brian MasinickApril 3, 2023 at 11:02 pm #104022Member
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::Hello Mister Brian , did a remaster usb on the cloned beta that was experiment; it worked saving home files; then did a rollback; started fresh again; printing works; all updated; that is twice a success.
demo@antix1:~ $ time env-info OS: antiX-23-runit Grup Yorum Kernel: Linux 6.1.18-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4012Y CPU @ 1.50GHz Init: runit Packages: 1631 Shell: /bin/bash Terminal: xterm WM: zzz-jwm GTK Theme: Arc-EvoPro2 GTK Icons: papirus-antix hello real 0m0.098s user 0m0.039s sys 0m0.048s demo@antix1:~ $ time linuxinfo Linux antix1 6.1.18-antix.1-amd64-smp #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Mar 11 19:13:33 EET 2023 Four Intel Unknown 1097MHz processors, 11972.08 total bogomips, 3813M RAM System library 2.36.0 real 0m0.015s user 0m0.000s sys 0m0.015s demo@antix1:~ $ time inxi CPU: dual core Intel Core i3-4012Y (-MT MCP-) speed/min/max: 1273/600/1500 MHz Kernel: 6.1.18-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 Up: 1h 25m Mem: 1693.1/3813.6 MiB (44.4%) Storage: 494.88 GiB (0.6% used) Procs: 151 Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.25 real 0m0.817s user 0m0.338s sys 0m0.111sApril 3, 2023 at 11:30 pm #104023Moderator
Brian Masinick
::@ile that’s cool and the stats you ran are also interesting. The inxi program is a sophisticated perl program. It did pretty well but consumed orders of magnitude more time resources than the info tools. linuxinfo was pretty fast, using no user space.
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Brian MasinickApril 4, 2023 at 12:41 am #104025Memberh2
::Lines of code is always a challenge, and the quality of the language, like Perl, makes solving things unfortunately both possible and relatively easy when it comes to the actual code, the research and testing is always a pain, easily 95% or more of any feature or fix usually.
Howeve,r you can’t compare these tools at all, inxi is now almost 34k lines of fairly tight Perl code, which handles Linux, BSD, and x86/x86_64/ARM/MIPS/PPC/SPARC etc, multiple optional data sources, and runs reasonably well on almost 20 year old Linux operating systems without any modification and almost no dependencies beyond Perl 5.008, and remains roughly agnostic to what is being used to make the OS you use.
This takes a lot of code, unfortunately. Luckily I have yet to find any case Perl could not handle well, but compiling 34k LOC Perl takes time, that’s a big chunk of the execution time, tested on 200mhz 192 MiB ram laptop, takes about 10 seconds to compile the program, then about 10 seconds to execute it with -v8, depends really on how much L1,L2 cache is available more than anything else I find, more than CPU speed. Querying in subshells is slow too, I’ve run optimizers many times on inxi and the bottom line is once compiled and started, subshells take up some 80% or so, maybe more, of the execution time, that’s other things being slow, and kernel forking just being inherently slow and inefficient, though I keep pulling performance gains when I do focused optimizations, but the low hanging fruit is almost all gone now.
Systems without any caching at all, like old 486 cpus, take forever to run this much perl, I think one guy timed it at 9 minutes, but I think that’s because it had to start using the disk swap file. But it ran, without issues or errors. Takes about 20 seconds on Pentium M 200 mhz laptop, that speed hasn’t gone up too much over time, I think when inxi was around 20k LOC, it was around 12 seconds, give or take.
If systems were internally consistent, and if all desktops and window managers and distros did things the same way consistently, and if hardware vendors always filled out their info correctly and completely and reliably and consistently, and if I could droop BSD and ARM type support, I could probably slash 1/2 or more of the inxi codebase and have the output look roughly the same, but sadly, none of those cases are ever going to happen, randomness will rul under the covers, and inxi will try to make some sense of it, and that just takes a lot of code to do.
However comparing execution time in this sense isn’t really relevant, similar to comparing the weight of some sandals to your pickup truck, the things aren’t the same, even if both have something to do with locomotion and movement.
The main thing I realized after worrying a bit about how big inxi was getting was that you don’t run it all the time, it’s made to generate a fairly advanced report on many facets of your operating system and underlying hardware, which involves dealing with a massive amount of garbage data, randomness, and differing methods of doing similar things with different tools, that in general require an internal mapping to consistent data structures that can then be used to generate relatively consistent output. And to handle many many many corner and fringe and failure cases, and many different platforms, both hardware and OS.
Still a sys admin tool first I think, and an end user tool second, that’s how it was started, and it’s still roughly how it develops, though end user support has taken on a bigger chunk of that admin than previously. To put it into perspective, to get a decent but not complete desktoo/wm/distro report takes about 1300 lines of code, give or take, plus internal utilities that are used, because every project is different, none are reliable or consistent, so just endless exceptions added year after year. And still runs, quite well, on the 2.4 kernel, lol, just fixed some weaknesses there today in fact.
I opted for accuracy and reliability in the end, which just takes a whole lot of code, more as the years go by, since the old stuff remains supported, as the new stuff comes, so it just forms cascades of tests and data sources, all mapped to internal consistent data structures whenever possible so inxi can make sense of the stuff.
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inxi system information script (install info) :: inxi git
April 4, 2023 at 12:06 pm #104039Moderator
Brian Masinick
::I know perfectly well that inxi is a complete tool. Those other tools, with barely any resource usage are, more than likely grabbing a couple quick values from /proc and that’s it.
While they are useful for a specific item or two, anyone who has been paying attention knows that inxi is able to report about CPU, memory, audio, graphics, kernels, partitions and virtually anything we need to know about the system.
Thanks for another thorough explanation of what the inxi design is doing. As you clearly explain, there are good reasons why it’s large and complex.
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Brian MasinickApril 4, 2023 at 2:28 pm #104047Moderator
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::As I often do, I’m going through my various distributions and updating them one by one.
So far, I’ve updated Endeavour OS and siduction this morning.--
Brian MasinickApril 4, 2023 at 2:36 pm #104048Moderator
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::pinxi -b System: Host: brian-antix-hp-14fq1025nr Kernel: 6.2.9-x64v3-xanmod1 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.2 Distro: antiX-21-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 30 October 2021 Machine: Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 35.2 Wh (86.5%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%) CPU: Info: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 2439 min/max: 1400/4056 Graphics: Device-1: AMD Lucienne driver: amdgpu v: kernel Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo Display: server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.5 renderer: AMD RENOIR (DRM 3.49.0 6.2.9-x64v3-xanmod1 LLVM 11.0.1) Network: Device-1: Realtek driver: rtw89_8852ae Drives: Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 30.97 GiB (13.0%) Info: Processes: 270 Uptime: 1m Memory: 7.09 GiB used: 575.4 MiB (7.9%) Shell: Bash pinxi: 3.3.26-9--
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