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pinxi -b
System:
  Host: antixBeta-hp-14-fq-1025 Kernel: 6.2.10-1-liquorix-amd64 arch: x86_64
    bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.2 Distro: antiX-23-beta1-runit_x64-full Grup
    Yorum 21 March 2023
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI
    v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%)
CPU:
  Info: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics [MT MCP] speed (MHz):
    avg: 2050 min/max: 1400/4056
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Lucienne driver: amdgpu v: kernel
  Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo
  Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu
    resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: AMD Radeon Graphics (renoir LLVM
    15.0.6 DRM 3.49 6.2.10-1-liquorix-amd64)
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek driver: rtw89_8852ae
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 20.47 GiB (8.6%)
Info:
  Processes: 234 Uptime: 0m Memory: 7.08 GiB used: 641.8 MiB (8.8%)
  Shell: Bash pinxi: 3.3.26-10

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Greenville, SC Weather Conditions
71°F Mountain Shadows Station

Today
Sunny, with a high near 78°F. Calm wind becoming south around 5 mph in the afternoon.
Tonight
Clear, with a low around 48°F. South wind around 5 mph becoming calm in the evening.
Thursday
Mostly sunny, with a high near 77°F. Light and variable wind becoming southeast 5 to 8 mph in the morning.

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pinxi -b
System:
  Host: brian-antix-hp-14fq1025nr Kernel: 6.2.10-1-liquorix-amd64 arch: x86_64
    bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.2 Distro: antiX-21-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum
    30 October 2021
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI
    v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%)
CPU:
  Info: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics [MT MCP] speed (MHz):
    avg: 2050 min/max: 1400/4056
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Lucienne driver: amdgpu v: kernel
  Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo
  Display: server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu
    resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.5 renderer: AMD RENOIR (DRM 3.49.0
    6.2.10-1-liquorix-amd64 LLVM 11.0.1)
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek driver: rtw89_8852ae
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 30.49 GiB (12.8%)
Info:
  Processes: 247 Uptime: 10m Memory: 7.1 GiB used: 609 MiB (8.4%) Shell: Bash
  pinxi: 3.3.26-10

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Currently the Accuweather temperature for Travelers Rest, SC is 74°F.
Sunny, RealFeel® 86°F, RealFeel Shade™ 73°F
Max UV Index 8 Very High
Wind E 2 mph, Wind Gusts 4 mph
Humidity 26%, Indoor Humidity 26% (Slightly Dry)
Dew Point 38° F, Pressure ↔ 30.22 in
Cloud Cover 0%, Visibility 12 mi
Cloud Ceiling 40000 ft.

Looks very clear with BLUE skies today!
This would be “summer-like” weather in either Michigan or New Hampshire,
the other states where I have lived.

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Again, some more comments about me and some of the things I’m curious
about and keep coming back to again and again over the years.

Since the advent of the Internet I’ve had some interest in various
different Web browsers, but something that has long preceded that
is my interest in text editors. They’re important, after all,
because we have to enter stuff in various ways.

Here are the sizes of a few different editor images on my system:

ls -l /usr/bin/mg /usr/bin/levee ~/bin/e /usr/bin/nano /usr/bin/emacs-gtk
-rwxr-xr-x 1 masinick masinick 295624 Apr 12 14:43 /home/masinick/bin/e
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6259800 Feb 22 16:08 /usr/bin/emacs-gtk
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 64728 May 5 2018 /usr/bin/levee
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 215312 Jul 29 2020 /usr/bin/mg
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 361128 Jan 19 04:25 /usr/bin/nano

In days past, Emacs was a big editor. I remember the first time I used
a different implementation of Emacs; it was one that was available
on the very advanced for it’s time OS, MULTICS.

As another point of interest, some of the researchers at the AT&T
Bell System Laboratories in the sixties (1960s for you “youngsters”),
AT&T, General Electric, RCA, and Xerox, major US companies at the time,
were all interested in improving the abilities of computer systems.

IBM, of course, did the same, but back then, they were “the big one”
when it came to computer systems. The guys at AT&T were in charge
of the largest phone network in the world at the time, and the research
team had some money to spend, but it was not unlimited. In fact, their
time was “running out” on some of the cool projects and cool equipment
available, including the very cool but very expensive MULTICS system.

That’s where UNIX comes in. The Labs had a small minicomputer and
the guys at AT&T wanted an operating system that would work, even
on that dinky (for that time period) system. Pranksters and punsters
they were, they created UNIX.

Given the small amount of time, system memory, resources, etc. UNIX was
indeed very small at that time. The first editor was ed, a command
line editor; I didn’t bother including it here, but I did use it for a
while in the first UNIX class I took back in 1982. By then, Bill Joy
had already created vi during some work at the University of California
at Berkeley.

Ironically enough, at a very similar period in time, researchers in
other locations were also working on many things. Digital Equipment
Corporation certainly had an editor, and it was powerful, but the
commands looked like “acoustic coupler line noise” for anyone old
enough to understand THAT! The editor was known as TECO – Tape
Editor and Corrector!

To make those macros more useful, a number of people made tools to
quickly access those macros, and they used keystroke combinations
to activate those macros. These were called “editor macros”, and
these became what we now know as Emacs. MULTICS had one of the
earliest versions of Emacs; Digital Equipment Corp. had other versions
on some of their operating systems. In the early eighties Richard
Stallman wrote his own version of Emacs called GNU Emacs.

I wrote this document using three different editors – e, a cutdown
version of Emacs, mg, another small Emacs implementation, and
finished it up with GNU Emacs. This was TOO MUCH to lose in a spam
or forum problem, like the one h2 had the other day, so I started
it in the forum, and quickly removed it and put it in these editors
until now.

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ls -l /usr/bin/vim*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Sep 26 2022 /usr/bin/vim -> /etc/alternatives/vim
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3169376 Sep 30 2021 /usr/bin/vim.basic
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 Sep 26 2022 /usr/bin/vimdiff -> /etc/alternatives/vimdiff
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3908560 Sep 30 2021 /usr/bin/vim.gtk3
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1404616 Sep 30 2021 /usr/bin/vim.tiny
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2121 Sep 30 2021 /usr/bin/vimtutor

another one I just snagged:
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 104512 May 4 2018 /usr/bin/elvis-tiny

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Weather report: 29617

\ / Sunny
.-. 78 °F
― ( ) ― ↗ 9 mph
`-’ 9 mi
/ \ 0.0 in

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blur13 wrote:

Thank you for this detailed explanation! The newer versions of conky differs widely on the reported RAM used compared to the (much older) version used in antiX. I prefer the old version because it aligns more closely with that reported by ps_mem.py, which is the tool I always use for comparison purposes. But it always throws me off for a while when I boot into MX and see high memory usage reported by conky, before I remember it cant be directly compared to antix.

If you want something that is totally unambiguous, just use free.

That’s in essence all inxi does except it uses the /proc/meminfo interface to that same data and parses it since it’s cleaner data and avoids creating the subshell.

I don’t know how ps_mem.py does it, but it doesn’t appear that is trying to do what you are looking for since they say it’s a per program count, I’d skip that and just use a consistent tool like free directly, or if you want to use the same column values of that as inxi uses, that’s going to give the same result more or less.

https://github.com/brndnmtthws/conky/issues/995

Note that this changed in 2020, and as someone in that issue thread notes, it was fixed back then in neofetch, inxi, and htop. That was 3.1.09 2020-11-11 for inxi, FIX 4.

4. Issue #236 by ChrisCheney pointed out that inxi had never updated its default
/proc/meminfo value to use the newer MemAvailable as default if present, which
led to incorrect memory used values showing up. That’s because back in the old
days, we had to construct a synthetic Memory used from MemFree, buffers, cache,
etc, but that wasn’t always right, since sometimes the cache actually isn’t
available, often is, but not always.

https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/34e431b0ae398fc54ea69ff85ec700722c9da773

This commit on the kernel explains it pretty clearly. Thanks Chris for bringing
this to our attention.

If I were you, I’d use what the kernel guys created for this and rely on that, that’s what I did in inxi. I assume conky is fixed by now, if not, that’s odd.

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Travelers Rest, SC As of 10:02 am EDT
64°F, Sunny, Day 77°F • Night 58°F

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pinxi -b
System:
  Host: antixBeta-hp-14-fq-1025 Kernel: 6.2.10-1-liquorix-amd64 arch: x86_64
    bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.2 Distro: antiX-23-beta1-runit_x64-full Grup
    Yorum 21 March 2023
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI
    v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%)
CPU:
  Info: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics [MT MCP] speed (MHz):
    avg: 2041 min/max: 1400/4056
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Lucienne driver: amdgpu v: kernel
  Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo
  Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu
    resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: AMD Radeon Graphics (renoir LLVM
    15.0.6 DRM 3.49 6.2.10-1-liquorix-amd64)
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek driver: rtw89_8852ae
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 20.12 GiB (8.4%)
Info:
  Processes: 232 Uptime: 0m Memory: 7.08 GiB used: 642.3 MiB (8.9%)
  Shell: Bash pinxi: 3.3.26-11

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pinxi -b
System:
  Host: antixBeta-hp-14-fq-1025 Kernel: 6.2.10-1-liquorix-amd64 arch: x86_64
    bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.2 Distro: antiX-23-beta1-runit_x64-full Grup
    Yorum 21 March 2023
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI
    v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%)
CPU:
  Info: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics [MT MCP] speed (MHz):
    avg: 2041 min/max: 1400/4056
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Lucienne driver: amdgpu v: kernel
  Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo
  Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu
    resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: AMD Radeon Graphics (renoir LLVM
    15.0.6 DRM 3.49 6.2.10-1-liquorix-amd64)
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek driver: rtw89_8852ae
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 20.27 GiB (8.5%)
Info:
  Processes: 232 Uptime: 0m Memory: 7.08 GiB used: 638.1 MiB (8.8%)
  Shell: Bash pinxi: 3.3.26-11

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Two booted instances of antiX 23 showed 642.3 MiB (8.9%) and 638.1 MiB (8.8%) memory used with pinxi -b; antiX 22 shows as follows

pinxi -b
System:
  Host: brian-antix-hp-14fq1025nr Kernel: 6.2.10-1-liquorix-amd64 arch: x86_64
    bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.2 Distro: antiX-21-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum
    30 October 2021
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI
    v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%)
CPU:
  Info: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics [MT MCP] speed (MHz):
    avg: 2041 min/max: 1400/4056
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Lucienne driver: amdgpu v: kernel
  Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo
  Display: server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu
    resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.5 renderer: AMD RENOIR (DRM 3.49.0
    6.2.10-1-liquorix-amd64 LLVM 11.0.1)
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek driver: rtw89_8852ae
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 30.38 GiB (12.7%)
Info:
  Processes: 253 Uptime: 4m Memory: 7.1 GiB used: 650 MiB (8.9%) Shell: Bash
  pinxi: 3.3.26-11

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Spending a bit more time with a couple of the “small” Emacs variations. One huge set of advantages the GNU Emacs Gtk version has is integrated documentation, complete with buttons, color, and graphical interface. e, mg, and jove are three of the editors I tried today.

For those who use the classic editors, there are a couple of editors that offer a couple of different interfaces. Vile and xvile, for example, use vi key bindings with emacs-like commands and a couple of Emacs bindings. e3 offers key styles found in Wordstar, Emacs, Pico, Vi, or Nedit.

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I didn’t realize this a few weeks ago, but after I put the SSD in the Dell Inspiron 5558 all of my laptops now have SSD.
I just opened up the Thinkpad T510; like the Thinkpad X201 it has a 128 GB SSD.

I have a 1 TB SSD that can go into the Dell or one of the Thinkpads; I also have a 2 GB SSD that I can put into my HP-14.
The factor to consider on the Dell and the HP is that I have multiple distributions; the two Thinkpad models have a
single distro (antiX) installed.

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Travelers Rest, SC, as recorded by Accuweather:
62°F, Cloudy, RealFeel® 64°F, RealFeel Shade™ 62°F,
Max UV Index 1 Low, Wind NE 2 mph, Wind Gusts 3 mph,
Humidity 94%, Indoor Humidity 76% (Slightly Humid),
Dew Point 60° F, Pressure ↓ 29.91 in. Cloud Cover 99%
Visibility 8 mi, Cloud Ceiling 1000 ft.

Today: Showers likely and possibly a thunderstorm before 11am, then a chance of showers and thunderstorms between 11am and 2pm, then showers likely and possibly a thunderstorm after 2pm. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 72. Light and variable wind becoming south southwest 5 to 7 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New rainfall amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms.

Tonight: Showers likely, mainly before 11pm. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 55. Southwest wind 3 to 6 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New precipitation amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch possible.

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