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Brian Masinick
Using inxi today with antiX 22 and an active Web browser
inxi -b System: Host: brian-antix-hp-14fq1025nr Kernel: 6.2.11-3-liquorix-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.2 Distro: antiX-21-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 30 October 2021 Machine: Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%) CPU: Info: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 2274 min/max: 1400/4056 Graphics: Device-1: AMD Lucienne driver: amdgpu v: kernel Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo Display: server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.5 renderer: AMD RENOIR (DRM 3.49.0 6.2.11-3-liquorix-amd64 LLVM 11.0.1) Network: Device-1: Realtek driver: rtw89_8852ae Drives: Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 30.52 GiB (12.8%) Info: Processes: 268 Uptime: 23m Memory: 7.1 GiB used: 1.49 GiB (21.1%) Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.26--
Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
Today’s forecast: 80°F | 59°F, currently in Greenville, SC at the “Mountain Shadows Station”
near Travelers Rest, SC, it is 73°F and also feels like 73°F.Today: Sunny, with a high near 81°F. Southwest wind 5 to 7 mph.
Tonight: Increasing clouds, with a low around 59°F. Light southwest wind.
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Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
Mid day Saturday, April 15, 2023.
Yesterday afternoon, my wife, an Italian American (born in the US to American parents, one of whom had Sicilian parents and the other who had Italian parents, so my wife has always had a natural curiosity about the “Italian Mafia”. Not only has their been movies about “The Godfather”, there have also been comedies like “Analyze This” and probably a few others. Yesterday was the opening of another Mafia drama/comedy romance called “Mafia Mama” and it certainly was entertaining.
Back to the “quiet, safe life”, here’s the standard setup for my current test instance of antiX 23 in Beta testing.
At this point, there are relatively minor differences with the current antiX 22 release, mostly new packages and
a modest number of areas that need work, localization and completion. Looking very good indeed!inxi -b Host: antixBeta-hp-14-fq-1025 Kernel: 6.1.18-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.2 Distro: antiX-23-beta1-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 21 March 2023 Machine: Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%) CPU: Info: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 1532 min/max: 1400/4056 Graphics: Device-1: AMD Lucienne driver: amdgpu v: kernel Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: AMD Radeon Graphics (renoir LLVM 15.0.6 DRM 3.49 6.1.18-antix.1-amd64-smp) Network: Device-1: Realtek driver: rtw89_8852ae Drives: Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 20.45 GiB (8.6%) Info: Processes: 248 Uptime: 1m Memory: 7.1 GiB used: 655.6 MiB (9.0%) Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.26--
Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
pinxi -b System: Host: brian-antix-hp-14fq1025nr Kernel: 6.1.18-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.2 Distro: antiX-21-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 30 October 2021 Machine: Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%) CPU: Info: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 1399 min/max: 1400/4056 Graphics: Device-1: AMD Lucienne driver: amdgpu v: kernel Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo Display: server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.5 renderer: AMD RENOIR (DRM 3.49.0 6.1.18-antix.1-amd64-smp LLVM 11.0.1) Network: Device-1: Realtek driver: rtw89_8852ae Drives: Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 30.52 GiB (12.8%) Info: Processes: 250 Uptime: 1h 2m Memory: 7.1 GiB used: 733.4 MiB (10.1%) Shell: Bash pinxi: 3.3.26-13--
Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
Currently at GSP, Greenville-Spartanburg Airport it's Fair and 76°F, 24°C Humidity 43% Wind Speed N 7 mph Barometer 29.97 in (1014.1 mb) Dewpoint 52°F (11°C) Visibility 10.00 mi Heat Index 78°F (26°C) Last update 15 Apr 2:53 pm EDT--
Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
Brian Masinick
Quite a few antiX updated packages for the antiX 23 Beta test instance today,
Sunday, April 16, 2023, including antiX named packages, goodies, etc.pinxi -b System: Host: antixBeta-hp-14-fq-1025 Kernel: 6.2.11-3-liquorix-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.3 Distro: antiX-23-beta1-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 21 March 2023 Machine: Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%) CPU: Info: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 2041 min/max: 1400/4056 Graphics: Device-1: AMD Lucienne driver: amdgpu v: kernel Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: AMD Radeon Graphics (renoir LLVM 15.0.6 DRM 3.49 6.2.11-3-liquorix-amd64) Network: Device-1: Realtek driver: rtw89_8852ae Drives: Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 20.5 GiB (8.6%) Info: Processes: 245 Uptime: 1m Memory: 7.08 GiB used: 673.6 MiB (9.3%) Shell: Bash pinxi: 3.3.26-15--
Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
Messing around with various USB images now; depending on the packaging, sometimes it’s hard to write down what I’ve stored on various disks.
This one is our friendly sibling, MX Linux AHS 21.3, which I also have installed on my HP-14. I do have something in which to put this disk so now I can label it accordingly, so “mission accomplished”. Like antiX it runs great from a live image.--
Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
Now I’m here with another USB that’s running antiX Beta 1.
inxi -b System: Host: antix1 Kernel: 6.1.18-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.3 Distro: antiX-23-beta1-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 21 March 2023 Machine: Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%) CPU: Info: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 1398 min/max: 1400/4056 Graphics: Device-1: AMD Lucienne driver: amdgpu v: kernel Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: AMD Radeon Graphics (renoir LLVM 15.0.6 DRM 3.49 6.1.18-antix.1-amd64-smp) Network: Device-1: Realtek driver: rtw89_8852ae Drives: Local Storage: total: 295.77 GiB used: 1.57 GiB (0.5%) Info: Processes: 231 Uptime: 23m Memory: 7.1 GiB used: 2.71 GiB (38.2%) Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.25--
Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
inxi -b System: Host: antix23 Kernel: 6.1.18-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.3 Distro: antiX-23-beta1-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 21 March 2023 Machine: Type: Desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: s5747c v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Mobo: PEGATRON model: 2A6C v: 5.00 serial: <superuser required> BIOS: American Megatrends v: 6.01 date: 09/29/2010 CPU: Info: dual core AMD Athlon II X2 255 [MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 3114 Graphics: Device-1: NVIDIA C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] driver: N/A Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: nouveau,vesa unloaded: fbdev,modesetting dri: swrast gpu: N/A resolution: 1024x768 API: OpenGL v: 4.5 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 15.0.6 128 bits) Network: Device-1: NVIDIA MCP61 Ethernet type: network bridge driver: forcedeth Device-2: Ralink RT2790 Wireless 802.11n 1T/2R PCIe driver: rt2800pci Drives: Local Storage: total: 698.64 GiB used: 7.52 GiB (1.1%) Info: Processes: 147 Uptime: 4m Memory: 3.58 GiB used: 974.7 MiB (26.6%) Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.25--
Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
Notice that I’m now here with the much older HP Desktop System s5747c instead of the much newer HP-14 laptop.
Much slower than the laptop but this one has been testing out well too.
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Brian Masinickh2
Working on enhanced USB 3 support which will then kick in as soon as we start seeing USB 4 in the wilds, note the new fields ‘lanes:’ and ‘mode:’. Still polishing up and finding corner cases, but it’s shaping up nicely. Also was useful to once and for all force me to learn how the USB wiring actually works.
Answer, roughly: the power goes over dedicated power wires, for usb 3 and 4, sends usb 2 down its own wires, I think, which is why you see USB 2 device inserted into a usb 3 port, it shoots up to another usb 2 hub on the circuit. This is why sometimes usb 2 devices don’t work on usb 3 hubs, or why usb 3 adapters might fail to pass a signal from a usb 2 device. There’s more to it than that, but that is sort of how it works. USB 3 and 4 use dedicated lanes, like PCIe, with an up, or transfer channel (tx) and an in, or receive channel (rx). The kernel calls these rx_lanes/tx_lanes, but basically 1 standard lane is 1 rx and 1 tx lane. Except for USB4 v2 120 Gbps, which uses 3 lanes, but 2 of them are dedicated tx, and 1 dedicated rx.
This will start becoming an issue over next year when people post about why a device doesn’t show up, or why a usb 1 or 2 device shows up on a usb 2 hub when connected to a usb 3 or 4 hub or port.
There’s more to it than this, but this is far enough to let me update inxi to show this USB data.
pinxi -Jazy1 --vs pinxi 3.3.26-16 (2023-04-16) USB: Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 14 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900 Device-1: 1-4:2 info: Wacom ET-0405A [Graphire2 (4x5)] type: mouse driver: usbhid,wacom interfaces: 1 rev: 1.1 speed: 1.5 Mb/s power: 40mA chip-ID: 056a:0011 class-ID: 0301 Device-2: 1-9:3 info: Tangtop HID Keyboard type: keyboard,mouse driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 1.5 Mb/s power: 100mA chip-ID: 0d3d:0001 class-ID: 0301 Device-3: 1-10:4 info: Microsoft Natural Keyboard Elite type: keyboard driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 1.0 speed: 1.5 Mb/s power: 100mA chip-ID: 045e:000b class-ID: 0301 Hub-2: 2-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 8 rev: 3.1 speed: 10 Gb/s lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x2 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003 class-ID: 0900 Device-1: 2-8:5 info: SanDisk Ultra type: mass storage driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 3.0 speed: 5 Gb/s lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 power: 896mA chip-ID: 0781:5581 class-ID: 0806 serial: <filter> Hub-3: 3-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900 Hub-4: 4-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 2 rev: 3.1 speed: 10 Gb/s lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x2 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003 class-ID: 0900 Hub-5: 5-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 4 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900 Device-1: 5-4:3 info: American Power Conversion Uninterruptible Supply type: HID driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 1.1 speed: 1.5 Mb/s power: 2mA chip-ID: 051d:0002 class-ID: 0300 serial: <filter> Hub-6: 6-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 4 rev: 3.0 speed: 5 Gb/s lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003 class-ID: 0900 Hub-7: 6-1:2 info: VIA Labs USB3.0 Hub ports: 4 rev: 3.2 speed: 5 Gb/s lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 chip-ID: 2109:0817 class-ID: 0900 Hub-8: 6-1.3:3 info: VIA Labs USB3.0 Hub ports: 4 rev: 3.2 speed: 5 Gb/s lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 chip-ID: 2109:0817 class-ID: 0900inxi system information script (install info) :: inxi git
Brian Masinick
h2, you may be old enough to remember RS232 (and RS232C I think it may have been)? RS232 was a 25 pin serial bus standard, then there was a 9 pin variation because the 25 pins were rarely used in applications; I’d go so far as to say that even the 9 pins were not always used, which is one reason we went to USB, then we have the wide and narrow variations, and the one I PREFER, when available, USB C, which plugs in whichever way you happen to plug it in, as long as the plug is inserted completely into the right location!
I also find it interesting that things like Ethernet and a few of the other high speed interfaces are rapidly falling off; I’ve not even been able to find a live Ethernet port within several miles of where I am, though fortunately some form of 5G or a variation of it is fairly prevalent and mostly stable at this point in time.
As far as USB 2 and USB 3, and whatever else, I’ll have to look that up to know precisely what it is, though generally speaking, I understand that they are all serial bus interfaces with a variety of connectors and specific locations where whatever active signals “remain” are placed to the various “pins” (or little “slices”) whatever you want to call what’s in the connectors these days!
If you are referring to the USB 2.0 interface versus the USB 3.0 interface, yeah – “USB 2.0 was released in the year 2000, which is also referred to as Hi-Speed USB.”
“USB 3.0 was released in November 2008, which is the third major version of the Universal Serial Bus standard for interfacing computers and electronic devices.
… the major one is the data transfer rate. The data transfer rate of USB 3.0 is up to 5 Gbit/s, which is about 10 times faster than the USB 2.0 standard.”“Actually, it is not difficult to tell their physical difference. The USB 2.0 Connectors is colored white or black inside, while the USB 3.0 is colored blue inside.
So if you want to find out whether the USB port on your computer or USB flash drive is 2.0 or 3.0, you can distinguish them by the USB port color inside.”
“Another physical difference between USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 is the number of wire connections.
USB 2.0 has a total of 4 connector wires, supporting half-duplex communication. As for USB 3.0, it has a total of 9 connector wires. With these five additional wires, it increases the bandwidth of USB 3.0 by permitting two-way communications simultaneously.”
There we have it: RS232 was 25 pin, then we went down to 9 pin, then USB went to 4 pin, but we eventually found a reason – SPEED – to add back 5 more pins to get more serial bus speed, now that we can actually take advantage of it (and more) in our electrical components!
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Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
Looking forward to seeing the new stuff in action; I use USB C 4′ cables to do so-called “fast charging” with my Android stuff.
As far as networking, it’s been 100% wireless because at least near me I can’t find any kind of wired connection; even our TV stuff uses 5G WiFi for the network interface and a single HDMI plug to connect between Hi-Def equipment components. Those “cables” are pretty short too, I think I may have a 6″ or 1′ HDMI between a BluRay and cable company interface.Regarding that, I still can’t believe those buffoons! Despite that virtually everything is 100% digital, you still have to “fast forward” or fast reverse through recorded programs and there isn’t any easy way to punch in 75% forward, or some other value; ridiculous in my opinion. Too bad I’m retired; I’d revamp every interface in some of these devices and make a simple mechanism to navigate too!
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Brian Masinickhttps://tripplite.eaton.com/products/usb-connectivity-types-standards
that has a diagram of the wires of the usb c connector, and explains it nicely.
This one has very nice color coded connector diagrams:
https://fabiensanglard.net/usbcheat/index.html which is maybe the fastest / easiest way to understand it.A few takeaways: only usb c connector can be used for usb 3.2 and 4, they need those 4 lane configurations.
USB 3.x and 4 are easiest to understand if you know how PCIe works, which is similar, 1 lane is 2 channels, one up, one down, though USB 4 120Gbps uses 3 lanes, but seems to use 2 of them as transmit dedicated at 60 Gbps each, and 2 dedicated as receive, thus the ‘asynchronous’ name.
This is my release notes:
These are the known possible combinations:
rev: 3.0 mode: 3.2 gen-1×1 lanes: 1 speed: 5 Gbps
rev: 3.0 mode: 3.2 gen-1×2 lanes: 2 speed: 10 Gbps
rev: 3.1 mode: 3.2 gen-1×1 lanes: 1 speed: 5 Gbps
rev: 3.1 mode: 3.2 gen-1×2 lanes: 2 speed: 10 Gbps
rev: 3.2 mode: 3.2 gen-1×1 lanes: 1 speed: 5 Gbps [wrong rev: seen this case]
rev: 3.2 mode: 3.2 gen-1×2 lanes: 2 speed: 10 Gbps [wrong rev: possible case]
rev: 3.2 mode: 3.2 gen-2×1 lanes: 1 speed: 10 Gbps
rev: 3.2 mode: 3.2 gen-2×2 lanes: 2 speed: 20 Gbps
rev: 4 mode: v1 gen-2×1 lanes; 1 speed: 10 Gbps
rev: 4 mode: v1 gen-2×2 lanes: 2 speed: 20 Gbps
rev: 4 mode: v1 gen-3×1 lanes: 1 speed: 20 Gbps
rev: 4 mode: v2 gen-3×2 lanes: 2 speed: 40 Gbps
rev: 4 mode: v2 gen-4×1 lanes: 1 speed: 40 Gbps
rev: 4 mode: v2 gen-4×2 lanes: 2 speed: 80 Gbps
rev: 4 mode: v2 gen-4×3-asymmetric lanes: 3 up, 1 down speed:120 GbpsUSB4 v2 has figured out how to go from 5 Gbps per channel to 40.
I still need to coinfirm some of this stuff before I release.
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