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April 12, 2023 at 8:49 pm #104632Member
Robin
::Plus those wishing total world dominance by usa.
I don’t understand this statement or it’s relevance. Please clarify.
This is not at all what this film is about. It’s not any kind of stupid „anti USA” video.
We in Germany have good reason to be thankful for all what the people of US did for us in 1945, freeing our country and Europe from the totalitarian slavery the Nazis had brought over us. On the other hand this doesn’t mean everything they do meanwhile is right or good. And all problematic aspects should be allowed to be discussed freely, as this appertains to a free democratic society, to a great country, with many great people, which the USA is.
But all this US related stuff is nothing you’ll find being discussed within this film. You’ll probably need to watch it on your own to find this out. And you might understand these AI algorithms are pretty close to the way of thinking the Nazis based their ideology in „Third Reich” on.
Windows is like a submarine. Open a window and serious problems will start.
April 12, 2023 at 11:29 pm #104633Moderator
Brian Masinick
::Thanks Robin; your words make a lot of sense.
No matter where we live, there are many good people and a few people we’d all prefer to avoid.
I believe you too. If there is anything dastardly going on anywhere history has told us to be careful, and protect our collective integrity and freedom.
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Brian MasinickApril 13, 2023 at 2:29 am #104641Member
marcelocripe
::I managed to download the French version video, I downloaded the subtitle following all Robin’s instructions to get the original subtitle and the version with automatic translation to “pt_BR”.
For those interested in the video and German subtitles, you can download it from GoogleDrive.
I think it’s better for people to watch the video and then discuss here about the subject addressed in it.
Thank you very much Robin.
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Eu consegui baixar o vídeo da versão francesa, baixei a legenda seguindo todas as instruções do Robin para obter a legenda original e a versão com a tradução automática para “pt_BR”.
Para quem tem interesse no vídeo e na legenda Alemã, poderá baixar no GoogleDrive.
Eu acho melhor as pessoas assistirem o vídeo para depois discutir aqui sobre o assunto tratado nele.
Muito obrigado Robin.
April 14, 2023 at 5:11 pm #104704Moderator
Brian Masinick
::To add even more to the ever increasing interest, concern, and watchfulness regarding AI, the concerns, the opportunities, etc., here is yet another site for people to examine. In this case, it’s a group managed by developers. I haven’t studied it in depth to see who or what is behind it, but in this issue and “article” I saw references to AI, so I’m sharing it for your perusal or avoidance, depending upon your personal views and concerns:
https://dev.to/anmolbaranwal/200-free-ai-tools-unleashing-the-power-of-ai-eb0
The group posting the article today is https://dev.to/
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Brian MasinickApril 14, 2023 at 5:52 pm #104713MemberXunzi_23
::Hi Robin, you wrote
AI algorithms are pretty close to the way of thinking the Nazis based their ideology in „Third Reich” on.
Descendants of those involved in WW2 probably had a large hand in training those algorithms.
I would add many, USA has on many occassions, not just in trump era claimed to be the leaders of the world.
After ww2, the German administration remained mostly untouched as removing Nazis would have meant shooting what became Verfassungsschutz
police and majority of adminastrive officials.Leading Nazis were taken to USA. Among other things many were involved in Manhattan Project. One of the results Hiroshima.
Space race, Werner von Braun among others who were involved in V2 Project , stealth aircraft, horten, Jet propulsion, Messerschmitt.
U boat developers torpedo specialists. The list also includes the company still claiming to make the best thumbscrews and other torture
instruments in the world.I am not anti american but see usa as at least as dangerous to freedom as Russia, actualy more so..
It started with Etchelon and the strategy of preventing defensive strikes on US mainland by strategic weapons placement. Now its Google
Microsoft apple Facebook cloudflare and many more.Which country must be hit hardest in a response nuke attack. Germany, especialy the south Poland to follow. It gets more dirty the deeper you go.
Why because USA stations Nukes in Dispensible areas…
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May 7, 2023 at 7:06 pm #106208MemberRobin
::Some further recent reading on AI algorithms:
https://www.heise.de/hintergrund/Erschreckend-wenn-man-das-sieht-KI-Pionier-Geoffrey-Hinton-ueber-KI-Modelle-8985819.html
https://www.heise.de/hintergrund/Erschreckend-wenn-man-das-sieht-KI-Pionier-Geoffrey-Hinton-ueber-KI-Modelle-8985819.html?seite=2
https://www.heise.de/hintergrund/Erschreckend-wenn-man-das-sieht-KI-Pionier-Geoffrey-Hinton-ueber-KI-Modelle-8985819.html?seite=3(you can use Felipe PS traduzir-paginas-web for translating the text to your language)
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P.S.:
You are perfectly right, @RJP. Without knowing, I’ve lived many years right next door to an atomic bomb silo and a chemical weapon silo, less than half a kilometer away from our residential neighbourhood. It was kept top secret, nobody knew about the threat, everybody thought it were simple deployment barracks run by the French allied. Meanwhile the facility was closed down, obviously no longer needed.Windows is like a submarine. Open a window and serious problems will start.
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