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April 13, 2018 at 8:58 am #9081Forum Admin
Your sources.list entry is probably wrong.
For antiX-17 you could add this:
# MX Community Main and Test Repos deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ stretch main non-free #deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/testrepo/ stretch test
I would not leave it enabled though.
- This reply was modified 8 months ago by anticapitalista. Reason: fixed typo
Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.April 13, 2018 at 12:27 pm #9093Member
I don’t know if it is more appropriate to open a specific topic, but here it goes.
Debian seems to have removed (wasn’t it there before?) aqemu from buster/testing.
It exists in the remaining distributions in variety of versions while qemu is also varying from wheezy to sid.
So where does one get the right one? I am tending to believe that sid may work, and it did for the brief testing I did.
The next question is why? I searched and found no easy answer. Is it QT5?
If it is Qt5, is Qt resisting some of the dependency frenzy debian is into and buster has become the test bed to expand the spider web of the sysDesease?
This is puzzling after they made gksu disappear.
It seems as buster may be so different that it is like a totally different distribution than the rest of debian.
????April 13, 2018 at 12:37 pm #9096Forum Admin
Buster is going to be the next stable and the apps that are removed from there are usually the ones that are not going to be in the new stable release.
So, for example, gksu will not be in new stable – they want users to use policykit instead (pbexec synaptic will give ‘root’ privileges)
Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.April 13, 2018 at 5:22 pm #9100Member
Ok, but sid still has gksu and aqemu, why?
And you said nothing in specific on why wouldn’t aqemu be in there, or is there something to replace it, or to get back to the subject, where does one get a gui to run qemu vm’s from.
About 2 years ago I think, with a couple of years delay, sid caught up to qupzilla, but qupzilla couldn’t be installed because its qt5 (webkit ..) dependencies were missing. There was an open bug report about it and all they did was send a note to the maintainer to do something about it. The actual bug was closed before the issue was taken care of. Even though downloading a much later version from qupzilla and running it was not a problem. What was in sid was already old and buggy to begin with. That sid I think was the foundation of buster.
I don’t really like qt stuff, but maybe they are about the only platform that is consciously resisting in adding sysDsease on.April 14, 2018 at 3:17 am #9109Forum Admin
I think you have answered your own question re aqemu ie what you said about qt. At the moment there are lots of qt upgrades that they probably do not want to put in testing, yet.
Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.April 15, 2018 at 3:30 am #9145Member
So far I could not get the pkexec command to work properly in any case.
Which packages are required? Do I need to change certain system settings?
$ pkexec synaptic
==== AUTHENTICATING FOR com.ubuntu.pkexec.synaptic ===
Authentication is required to run the Synaptic Package Manager
Authenticating as: demo
polkit-agent-helper-1: error response to PolicyKit daemon: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed: No session for cookie
==== AUTHENTICATION FAILED ===
Error executing command as another user: Not authorized
This incident has been reported.
$April 15, 2018 at 7:44 am #9157Member
I think you are missing the appropriate policy kit for the desktop you are using, or it is not active. Once you find it place it in autostart ~/.config/…
That is how pkexec it is told whether it should seek authorization or not for starting an above user rights application.
sudo synaptic should work from terminal (test it)
and also if you can program menus “gksudo synaptic” will workApril 15, 2018 at 2:09 pm #9170Member
Thank you. I have installed lxpolkit and consolekit and now pkexec is working with some programs (i.e. synaptic and gparted). But some other programs (i.e. grsync, minstall, isosnapshot) do not start with pkexec and still need sudo/gksudo. This seems to become rather a complicated mess than a security improvement.April 15, 2018 at 2:27 pm #9171Forum Admin
Xaver – you don’t have to use pkexec at all on antiX. Use sudo or gksu.
If you are building from net or core, that will mean editing the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications for, for example, synaptic.
Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.April 16, 2018 at 12:14 pm #9246Member
grsync can be used by user without root privileges while other software as gparted can’t. That is one of the differences you are encountering.
pkexec is clearly an attempt by the sysD-sease gang to reach deeper into userspace and control aspects of it. It should not be used as much as possible, even if you have to dig and re-edit menus and things.April 16, 2018 at 2:34 pm #9251Member
@ anticapitalista – Thanks – My problems with gksu were due to a corrupted install media.
On April 13th you have written: “gksu will not be in new stable – they want users to use policykit instead”
So far gksu still is in the sid-repo. But should we be prepared to lose it soon?
That sounds reasonable but it is not. Synaptic can be used as normal user too. Actually I never use it with root privileges.
A security concept, that focuses on complex rules and automatisms must make things worse. Security should be based on clearity, simplicity and responsibility.April 16, 2018 at 2:40 pm #9253Member
@xaver I know, but it is desktop specific and that is what desktop specific polkit does. In lxde you can’t open synaptic without privileges. In your desktop you can probably browse but can’t renew or install anything without entering a password. Lxde must think, if you can’t (are not allowed to) remove, install, or upgrade, what the hell are you doing looking through synaptic for? You can run apt search but you can’t run apt update, it is the sys-admin’s duty to control this.
I didn’t make the rules.
April 16, 2018 at 2:51 pm #9256Forum Admin
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Xaver – I added gksu to antiX testing repos.
Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.April 16, 2018 at 3:39 pm #9257Member
@ anticapitalista – That is great. Thank you!
The command to open synaptic as normal user is ‘/usr/sbin/synaptic’.April 19, 2018 at 2:52 am #9391Member
@xaver with all the years of lxde openbox using lxpolkit (I suspect lxqt might be the same) synaptic alone would not open without su/sudo Even in debian list with devs around they were surprised of why that would be. It is an old issue, has it changed?
I wouldn’t think this is only for lxpolkit, there must be others.
Subject: aqemu 0.9.2-2.1 MIGRATED to testing
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 04:39:16 +0000
From: Debian testing watch <email@example.com>
FYI: The status of the aqemu source package
in Debian’s testing distribution has changed.
Previous version: (not in testing)
Current version: 0.9.2-2.1
So my intuition to pull 0.9.2-2.1 from sid ended up being appropriate, who knows about the dependencies I pulled though.
The bug list I looked at doesn’t indicate a particular problem with aqemu, so it is probably in QT5.
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