Why the “Linux Desktop” is not a world wide success

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caprea wrote:

Thanks PPC, the download page looks very clear and simple now.That should prevent any procrastination.

@anticapitalista, there’s one minor issue with the download page.The Signature verification of the ISO described if you scroll down to the bottom does not work.
A way that works is is described here.
https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/antix-22_386-verify-signature-failure-by-newbie/#post-96812
Could this be changed?

Done!

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[Member marcelocripe]

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Anticapitalista, if there is another modification on the https://antixlinux.com/download/ page. Please correct the texts.

In:

Brazil – UFAM – Manaus

Brazil – C3SL – Parana

Brazil – USP – Sao Paolo

For:

Brasil – UFAM – Manaus

Brasil – C3SL – Paraná

Brasil – USP – São Paulo

The mirror “Brasil – C3SL – Paraná” is the best option to be set as default for antiX when it is initialized with the language “pt_BR”. As the connection from “Brasil – UFAM – Manaus” seems to be slower than “Brasil – C3SL – Paraná”. The “Brasil – USP – São Paulo” mirror is the one that has the largest number of GNU/Linux distributions, it tends to be the slowest connection, even for me as I am about 30 km away.

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Anticapitalista, se houver outra modificação na página https://antixlinux.com/download/. Por favor, corrija os textos.

De:

Brazil – UFAM – Manaus

Brazil – C3SL – Parana

Brazil – USP – Sao Paolo

Para:

Brasil – UFAM – Manaus

Brasil – C3SL – Paraná

Brasil – USP – São Paulo

O espelho “Brasil – C3SL – Paraná” é a melhor opção para ser colocada como padrão para o antiX quando é inicializado com o idioma “pt_BR”. Como a conexão de “Brasil – UFAM – Manaus” parece ser mais lenta que a “Brasil – C3SL – Paraná”. O espelho “Brasil – USP – São Paulo” é o que possui a maior quantidade de distribuições GNU/Linux, costuma ser a conexão mais lenta, mesmo para mim que estou a cerca de 30 Km de distância.

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@Marcelocripe – all the names of the countries and cities on the download page are correctly written in English… It makes sense, since the page is in English. But you are right- São Paulo has a typo.

Edit1: Only names of entities (like Universities, etc) are in the original language. That also makes sense, since usually we do not translate names (of persons, entities, etc)…

Edit2: @Marcelocripe – anticapitalista already corrected the typo in São Paulo. If you open the Downloads page, using an on-line translatation service (ex: https://antixlinux-com.translate.goog/download/?_x_tr_sl=en&_x_tr_tl=pt&_x_tr_hl=pt-PT&_x_tr_pto=wapp ), you’ll see that it’s almost 100% correct in your own language!

P.

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[Member marcelocripe]

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Edit1: Only names of entities (like Universities, etc) are in the original language. That also makes sense, since usually we do not translate names (of persons, entities, etc)…

If we didn’t translate the names, then it means that the writing is wrong, because the correct writing has accents in the name of the state of “Paraná” and in the name of the state of “São Paulo”, as well as it is accentuated in the name of “Córdoba” . As for the text being written in English, I have no authority to comment on that.

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Edit1: Only names of entities (like Universities, etc) are in the original language. That also makes sense, since usually we do not translate names (of persons, entities, etc)…

Se nós não traduzimos os nomes, então significa que a escrita está errada, pois a escrita correta possui acentos no nome do estado do “Paraná” e no nome do estado de “São Paulo”, assim como está acentuado no nome de “Córdoba”. Quanto ao texto estar escrito em idioma Inglês, eu não tenho propriedade alguma para comentar sobre isso.

[Member marcelocripe]

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Xunzi_23, on this issue:

Regarding antiX 22 I am unsure when changes to something in the system or older kernel began to cause problems.

The kernel not supporting your graphics card is not your problem alone.

I know very well that Microsoft with each new Windows abandons support for various old devices. Likewise, NVidia, with its famous and expensive video cards, abandons support for several old devices or does not make its code available for use on GNU/Linux and BSDs.

In antiX specifically, we have technical support from many experts on this forum, even if you are a beginner. This situation does not happen in other GNU/Linux distributions.

For example, kernel 4.4 is the only one that works on several video cards from the Via and SIS brands that we have here in Brazil. In the not-too-distant past and here on the forum, Xecure has built 3 fully functional unofficial ISOs, among them the pseudo-antix-19 legacy bet3 com Kernel 4.4.0-264. The @ensabahnur, the creator of respin Pin Linux OS, was the one who guided me and taught me how to do each step of remastering ISOs from antiX 21 full with kernel 4.4.0-296.

I usually do the following sequence:

1 – I try to boot with the latest antiX.
2 – If it doesn’t work with the latest antiX I try the antiX of the previous edition.
3 – If it doesn’t work with antiX from the previous edition, I try the ISO Remastering antiX 21 Full in 32 and 64 bits with Kernel 4.4.0-296.
4 – If it doesn’t work with the antiX 21 remaster ISO with Kernel 4.4.0-296, I’ll try another even older edition.

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Xunzi_23, sobre esta questão:

Regarding antiX 22 I am unsure when changes to something in the system or older kernel began to cause problems.

O kernel que não tem suporte a sua placa de vídeo não é um problema isolado seu.

Eu sei muito bem que a Microsoft em cada novo Windows abandona o suporte a vários dispositivos antigos. Da mesma forma a NVidia com as suas famosas e caras placas de vídeos que abandona o suporte a vários dispositivos antigos ou que não disponibiliza o seu código para ser utilizado nos GNU/Linux e BSDs.

No antiX, mais especificamente, nós temos suporte técnico de vários especialistas neste fórum, mesmo que você seja um iniciante. Esta situação não acontece em outras distribuições GNU/Linux.

Por exemplo, o kernel 4.4 é o único que funciona em várias placas de vídeo das marcas Via e SIS que temos aqui no Brasil. No passado, não muito distante e aqui no fórum, o Xecure construiu 3 ISOs não oficiais totalmente funcionais, entre elas, as ISOs pseudo-antix-19 legacy bet3 com Kernel 4.4.0-264. O  @ensabahnur, o criador do respin Pin Linux OS, foi quem me guiou e me ensinou a fazer cada etapa da remasterização das ISOs do antiX 21 full com o kernel 4.4.0-296.

Eu costumo fazer a seguinte sequência:

1 – Eu tento iniciar com o antiX mais recente.
2 – Se não funcionar com o antiX mais recente eu tento o antiX da edição anterior.
3 – Se não funcionar com o antiX da edição anterior, eu tento a ISO Remasterização do antiX 21 Full de 32 e 64 bits com o Kernel 4.4.0-296.
4 – Se não funcionar com a ISO da remasterização do antiX 21 com o Kernel 4.4.0-296, eu tento outra edição ainda mais antiga, está é a opção que me resta para impedir de jogar no lixo um computador que ainda.

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Kernel 4.4 can be installed via package management too in antiX 22

apt-cache policy linux-image*

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Edit: I tested antiX with 4.4.0-264 kernel in computer which has SIS graphic card, and now it seems to work better. Great tip from @marcelocripe .

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[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

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Be aware though that the 4.4 and 4.9 kernels have reached EOL (end of life) and will not receive any more updates.

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anticapitalista wrote:

Be aware though that the 4.4 and 4.9 kernels have reached EOL (end of life) and will not receive any more updates.

Yeah, if you guys want to see what is supported, I recently wrote a post that has a list of which kernels are still supported, how long they are supported, etc. There were AT LEAST 4 or 5 kernels that ought to have a pretty decent life expectancy.

For those of you who need OLD kernel support, I’m pretty sure that the 4.19 kernel is now the oldest one with continued support; search back and I’m pretty sure I created a table listing the information; if you can’t find it, write here and I’ll find it and reference it again.

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Edit: I tested antiX with 4.4.0-264 kernel in computer which has SIS graphic card, and now it seems to work better. Great tip from @marcelocripe .

I hope to be able to do the same with antiX 23.
Eu espero conseguir fazer o mesmo com o antiX 23.

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Brian Masinick wrote:

anticapitalista wrote:

If users have hardware that requires a 6 series kernel, then they will have to wait for antiX-23.
When antiX-21/22 was released, a 6 series kernel was just a twinkle in Linus’s eye.

This is an excellent case. When antiX 21 (and later 22) were introduced, I had to copy significant modules from other Debian-based systems that had the modern kernel, device support modules, and wireless firmware to support my hardware.

It took me several hours to physically do, but it took at least 3-4 days to locate and capture the details I needed to do the job.
Ultimately I got antiX 21 working, and when I “updated” to 22, of course it all continued to work.

Nevertheless, my current hardware on my HP-14 is NOT supported on antiX 21 or 22, nor is it yet supported on antiX 23 Alpha 1, though I am hoping in one or two baselines, I’ll have the right kernel, then everything else will come along for the ride.

There’s a lot of work that goes into adding more hardware support; I know because I added it myself for ONLY one additional version of hardware, and it took a lot of work. Imagine all of the libraries and modules that have to be added to support 75-80% of the hardware added over the past two years.
For 100%, it’s difficult in space, engineering, development and testing.

I am delighted to update that two of my systems have been actively used to test antiX 23 Beta 1. While I have not gone through every option exhaustively (YET), I have been using two of my computers with antiX 23 over half of my computer time and they’ve held up very well indeed.

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