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argonaut459
Good evening fellow antixer,
I was expirmenting with window tiling, after I learned that info in the FAQ is outdated and the keys for it are different I found them in the config files.
But now if I select tile to LEFT or to RIGHT
It can’t be moved off the top of the screen anymore, only moved left and right along the screen.tiling top left or right moves it to much up, and the status bar can’t be accessed anymore.
At the moment I’m using a vga monitor, and it’s even weirder when using that. But for now I’d be happy if the tiling would work without getting the windows stuck.System: Kernel: 4.9.0-279-antix.1-486-smp arch: i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.2.0 vt: 7 dm: slimski v: 1.5.0 Distro: antiX-21_386-full Grup Yorum 31 October 2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) Machine: Type: Portable System: Dell product: Inspiron 1011 v: A00 serial: <superuser required> Mobo: Dell model: CN0Y53 v: A00 serial: <superuser required> BIOS: Dell v: A00 date: 03/20/2009 Battery: ID-1: BAT1 charge: 30.6 Wh (80.5%) condition: 38.0/44.0 Wh (86.5%) volts: 11.7 min: 11.1 model: Dell type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: discharging Memory: RAM: total: 1.96 GiB used: 577.5 MiB (28.8%) RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required. 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Brian Masinick
For what it’s worth, I have my IceWM configuration settings in /home/masinick/.icewm; perhaps yours is in your .icewm directory.
In my directory, I can see and freely modify these files:keys menu-numix-bevel personal theme toolbar-numix-square menu menu-numix-square preferences toolbar toolbar-papirus menu-applications menu-papirus startup toolbar-numix-bevel winoptionsYours may vary. If you have never created your own custom files, then you may, if you wish, copy files from /usr/share/icewm to /home/your-account/.icewm, then you may leave them intact or customize them to suit your interests.
If you ever accidentally alter them and get in a bind, simply copy all of the files or the ones you are interested in, and modify them.
You can also copy all these files to another (safe) location and/or back them up, your choice.- This reply was modified 5 months, 2 weeks ago by Brian Masinick.
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Brian Masinick
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argonaut459, I suppose you mean titlebar, not ‘statusbar’.
Try switching to a different icewm theme and check does this occur only with a certain theme or all themes?For best help toward fixing this you can create an issue ticket over here https://github.com/bbidulock/icewm/issues
BobC
Once you start moving it left or right, you can then also move it up or down.
argonaut459
Once you start moving it left or right, you can then also move it up or down.
No I can’t, thats the issue. They are pretty stuck on top / buttom of screen. If it were that easy I wouldn’t have asked here 😀
Will try another theme
switched to aidawata dark – still happens.I have my IceWM configuration settings in /home/masinick/.icewm; perhaps yours is in your .icewm directory.
In my directory, I can see and freely modify these filesI have no clue what you are trying to tell me there.
I’ll really have to use a bigger screen and read this while I scrounge around here in the system.
Still somehow I don’t get where to find what and how to open stuff.The sad part is, I can’t even pinpoint why this aggrevates me so much. Maybe its the small screen, maybe jittery mouse.
With the bigger laptop of my GF thats running MX I don’t get so pissed so quick.
Maybe I expect too much from myself when doing my own stuff 😀Ok, well, adawaita is not an IceWM theme. Here is a pic that shows where to change the theme.
My guess is you have the window maximized or fullscreen. If true there is nothing you can do to move it on that screen because you told it to take up the entire screen.
PS: if you right click the title bar of the window or press alt+space you get that pulldown menu in the 2nd pic for that window
Also, did you know you can left click on the titlebar and hold it down for a second, and then drag the window wherever?
The antiX Magic themes are setup for use on laptops, BTW, but they are not the defaults. You can select a different theme by clicking a different one like I show in the first pic.
- This reply was modified 5 months, 2 weeks ago by BobC.
- This reply was modified 5 months, 2 weeks ago by BobC.
argonaut459
Ok, well, adawaita is not an IceWM theme. Here is a pic that shows where to change the theme.
My guess is you have the window maximized or fullscreen. If true there is nothing you can do to move it on that screen because you told it to take up the entire screen.
PS: if you right click the title bar of the window or press alt+space you get that pulldown menu in the 2nd pic for that window
Also, did you know you can left click on the titlebar and hold it down for a second, and then drag the window wherever?
The antiX Magic themes are setup for use on laptops, BTW, but they are not the defaults. You can select a different theme by clicking a different one like I show in the first pic.
The aidawata was just used, as another theme was suggested. Im using Arc Dark, it is atleast pleasant to eye and still readable. That aidawata made black text on black background 😀
For the Taskbar im using BlueDay Medium. Nice color, and the icons aren’t as spread AntiX-Blue Medium.The windows is not maximized when I try to tile it.
And yeah, clicking and dragging is what I tried to move the window 😀If I try to tile the command center to the right, it gets move half of the screen, and using alt+space maximizeVert is selected.
No clue why. All i wanted to do is change the key combo to use the windows key for tiling.
Thats what the icewm key setting looks like######################################################################## ### BobC 06/15/19 - all setting same as std antiX 19b1 except the following: # Wingrid on Ctrl+ 1 thru 0 on number row key "Super+left" wingrid-left.sh key "super+right" wingrid-right.sh key "Alt+Ctrl+3" wingrid-top.sh key "Alt+Ctrl+4" wingrid-bottom.shI thought I put in a post already that said WinGrid is not multi monitor capable? You need to use WinArrange or icesh to handle that. There are posts here, and on the IceWM site and Manual. WinArrange is already in the keys file.
- This reply was modified 5 months, 2 weeks ago by BobC.
argonaut459
Back to topic, as window tiling is still not working as expected.
I hope I changed the right command to “super+left / super+right”
What I expect it to do is tiling the current window left or right, and pressing the same button combo again that it goes back to how it was before tiling.
While being tiled, and I grab the status bar, it should be put anywhere on the desktop.These last two thing are not possible.
I don’t know why it sets “maximize vertical” after I used the command.
I get the feeling I’m doing something wrong. :/see screenshots. Hope they make it kind of clear what is happening.
PPC
What I expect it to do is tiling the current window left or right, and pressing the same button combo again that it goes back to how it was before tiling.
While being tiled, and I grab the status bar, it should be put anywhere on the desktop.These last two thing are not possible.
The first thing is not possible – the IceWM tiling features are not toggles that you can switch on or off – if you select the option to tile the current window to take the left half of the screen that features does just that – it tries to place the window on the left half of the screen, over and over again, it does not try to place the window where you last had it before tiling it… As far as I know there is not way for the Window Manager to “remember” the previous window position. And, if you “tile” a window, it should always display the title bar. I can tile, in IceWM, the window to the top or the lower half of the screen, without any problem, or even any 1/4 of the screen- that’s the way Icewm’s pseudo-tiling should always work.
“While being tiled…”- one thing – “while being tiled” does not exist – in IceWM, it’s not a window state- the computer just calculates where you want to place the window and what size it should have and automates that for you, just the same as if you did it yourself… you can use a “tiled” window just as you would any other- you left click the title bar, hold down the button and drag the window- if you can’t do that, you are doing it wrong or there’s something wrong with your antiX…
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About your problem with “Maximize vertical” – I do not have that problem, but I’m not using the defaul icewm toolbar- If I do it, I still see the title bar of the window. To move it back down, you can “Tile” it to where you want, you can press and hold “Alt” and click in the window and drag it and/or left click it’s lower border and resize it…Edit2:
You may have something wrong with the layer where Icewm’s toolbar is- did you ever mess with those settings?P.
- This reply was modified 5 months, 1 week ago by PPC.
- This reply was modified 5 months, 1 week ago by PPC.
I thought I put in a post already that said WinGrid is not multi monitor capable? You need to use WinArrange or icesh to handle that. There are posts here, and on the IceWM site and Manual. WinArrange is already in the keys file.
Please read the above again.
When you ask WinGrid to fit that window to the 2 right quadrants (right half), it maximizes the vertical as part of that process. If you need to get fancier, use icesh.
What are you expecting Alt-space to do? It just brings up the Window menu. Arrow down to “Move” and press Enter. Now when you press arrows or move mouse the window will move.
Please make sure your system is up to date. Run the antiX Updater from the menu just to be sure.
argonaut459
Don’t have multimonitor, this happens with just this single one.
Don’t know if there is any difference, thats the first I found as the CTRL+ command in the FAQ didn’t work.
http://download.tuxfamily.org/antix/docs-antiX-21/FAQ/wingrid.htmlFound these, and something which mention a KP rose (what ever that may be), and changed the first 2 entries to super+left / right, to see if it works.
PPC,
If you look above he isn’t using IceWM’s Tiling menu options. He has programmed additional keys to run WinGrid functions, so it will work just like those same WinGrid functions if they were run from the normally assigned keys.
He also has multiple screens, which I don’t think WinGrid is designed/tested to work with, but I don’t see that causing trouble right now, so maybe he only has one connected at the moment.
You are correct though that when you ask IceWM to tile a window, it just figures out how big it should be, and moves it where you asked. If there happens to be another window already there in that same space, it will just cover it up. IceWM’s tiling functions don’t automatically move other windows out of the way unless you use the Tile Vertically or Tile Horizontally options off the Tiling submenu or via their assigned keys, and those will rearrange all the windows on the screen, so I never use them.
If you look above he isn’t using IceWM’s Tiling menu options. He has programmed additional keys to run WinGrid functions,
You are right, Bob, of course, but argonaut also said something about using “IceWM’s tiling features”, so I (wrongly) assumed the user was refering Icewm, not wingrid.
To clarify, argonaut: IceWM now has 2 ways to perform “pseudo-tiling” on windows: wingrid (that, since at least since the last ice age, came with antiX, long before it came with other proprietary OSes) and now IceWM’s itself, thanks to Bob’s efforts, has it’s own way to tile windows- it can also be used with keybindings (I’ll post a link to the relevant thread once I find it) or by right clicking the Title bar of a Window > Tile > chose where you want to tile the window to. It’s been reported that Wingrid fails to work with a multiple screen setup (because it treats all screens just like a giant one- the same thing happens if you try to printscreen, using multiple screens). IceWm’s own tiling features do work on multiscreen systems just fine, from what has been reported here in the forum…
Edit: found it- try this, instead of the keybindings you added, it may work better for you:
https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/icewm-moving-windows-with-keyboard-shortcuts/#post-91658edit2: just to cover all the bases, using a previous example from Bob, try to assign your keybindings to this commands:
to tile to the left side of the screen:
icesh -f sizeto 49% 100% top leftto tile to the right side of the screen
icesh -f sizeto 49% 100% top rightI ran out of ideas… good luck with your tilling experiments!
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- This reply was modified 5 months, 1 week ago by PPC.
- This reply was modified 5 months, 1 week ago by PPC.
- This reply was modified 5 months, 1 week ago by PPC.
Argonaut, This is a numeric keypad. Note how the keys have arrows, just like a compass rose.
You press the key pointing in the direction that you want your window to be at. Up makes it the top half, Right makes it the right half. The 9 key makes it that top right corner, Etc. 5 centers it.
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