Would it be safe to purge the following programs?

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      MPS-Youtube
      SMTube (I’m trying to degoogle as much as I need to)
      antiX ad-blocker
      Gweled
      DOSBox
      Mahjongg
      gFTP
      ROX Filer
      antiX-installer (I’m wondering why is this in the O.S installation instead of just the live USB)
      CherryTree
      Leafpad
      nano
      Calcurse
      mtPaint Graphic Editor
      Midnight Commander Editor
      LibreOffice Draw
      qpdfview
      LibreOffice Math
      Searchmonkey
      Poor Man’s Radio Player (why’s that for?)
      Streamtuner2
      GUVCView
      MPV Media Player (it seems as if I had to download a bunch of stuff in order to delete it)
      All versions of Vi(m) (because I’m seeing something that says “vim-tiny”)
      Any network manager that is not CMST, connmann or GNOME-PPP

      In order to purge all of this, I would like to know their package names.

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      BobC
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        Got a good backup? I make live USB’s to a USB 3.0 SSD. Gparted might do it well, too.

        You can use synaptic to remove things, and it should warn you of dependencies, but I would keep nano, leafpad and rox-filer for sure, and I don’t think you can easily get rid of vim-tiny, maybe not the installer, either. I would never remove Midnight Commander, but that’s just me.

        So, make your backup, use Synaptic, search to find the packages and remove one at a time, then apply each would be the way I would do it.

        Are you sure its worthwhile? I don’t think you will save much space, and will risk having weird things happen if a program expects to run something that isn’t there.

        I’m no expert, but have been down that road before…

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        Xecure
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          antiX-installer (I’m wondering why is this in the O.S installation instead of just the live USB)

          This is in case you create a live USB based on your installed system, so you can install it on another computer.

          nano

          From the list you gave, THIS is the only one I would NOT uninstall. If in the future you cannot access the gui interface, you will need a way to edit files in the terminal to try to fix some things. nano will be the editor you would need to use. If it is not there, you will have a lot of trouble trying to edit and fix files.

          The rest I believe are good to uninstall. If you have no plans of using ROX and only use SpaceFM, then it is also OK to uninstall ROX filer.

          If you use App Select and search for each program, it will give you the package name for most of them in the execute command. You can start there.
          Also, apt search command (or synaptic search function) will aid you to find the package names.

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            If in the future you cannot access the gui interface, you will need a way to edit files in the terminal to try to fix some things. nano will be the editor you would need to use. If it is not there, you will have a lot of trouble trying to edit and fix files.

            antiX ships with a tiny text editor named e3 that often goes under the radar. It runs in both terminal and console environments. It can use the keystrokes of various editors i.e. Wordstar, Emacs, Pico, vi, Nedit.

            Nedit mode is likely to be familiar to most users because it employs many keystrokes that are widely used in GUI text editors.
            e.g.

            CTRL+C  Copy
            CTRL+V  Paste
            CTRL+X  Cut
            CTRL+S  Save
            CTRL+A  Select all
            CTRL+Q  Quit
            ALT+H   Show help

            To run it in a GUI terminal environment open in the alternative antiX terminal, rxvt. This avoids keystroke clashes with those set up in ROXTerm.

            Applications->Accessories->Rxvt
            e3ne

            To run it in a console environment
            e3ne

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              Thanks for the recomendation, SamK. I didn’t know this. I tested e3ne a bit and I like it. Now I have another option when editing from terminal.

              Thanks!

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                Keep in mind that there are programs that are hard coded to run geany, nano and vim, for example. Yes, e3ne is pretty good for a minimal editor.

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                Brian Masinick
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                  Keep in mind that there are programs that are hard coded to run geany, nano and vim, for example. Yes, e3ne is pretty good for a minimal editor.

                  You can change the default programs that antiX runs and we have an easy to use tool to do this.

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                    It may have been from other packages that I installed, not necessarily with ones part of standard antiX. I just reinstalled them to solve it.

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                    Brian Masinick
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                      It may have been from other packages that I installed, not necessarily with ones part of standard antiX. I just reinstalled them to solve it.

                      If you install a different editor, for example levee, a small vi clone, jaxe, an editor with XML highlight features, or jedit, a Java editor, any of these “different” editors could be selected as a default as long as you know their location and name.

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                        Keep in mind that there are programs that are hard coded to run geany

                        You can change the default programs that antiX runs and we have an easy to use tool to do this.

                        It may have been from other packages that I installed,

                        BobC is right, masinick, there are programs hardcoded to run geany, and not external ones. The biggest example is the antiX Control Centre, which is hardcoded to use geany to open any and all text configuration files that are “bundled”. I know because I had to edit it to use a different text editor some time ago (abandoned project, as I return to geany). I believe this is done because most other text editors don’t/can’t open multiple files as tabs in the program, so this is set for all cases that has to open multiple files at the same time.

                        So, BobC is right. If the user uninstalls geany and doesn’t know where to find, for example, the exclude files, the WM configuration files, etc., they have to spend some time searching for them (or directly give up and not edit them) as CC won’t open them. The only exception that does use the preferred applications that has been mentioned, is individual files (like the “Edit conky” option in CC).

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                        Brian Masinick
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                          I am amending my previous comment. If we are specifically using Geany because we know that it can allow for the editing of several files in different tabs, I am OK with that, or ensuring that the editor chosen also provides for this functionality. But to hardcode editing in three or four editors, each for various reasons, ought to be well documented in case someone else comes along and prefers another tool.

                          I just checked to verify this and I know that all of the following editors are able to open a buffer for multiple files and there is the ability to switch between them:

                          Geany, Emacs, Vim, and Nedit. I’m sure that several other editors offer this, but there are four, so if any of these four are listed in the current edit environment variables, they can all perform the functional equivalent operation.

                          • This reply was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by Brian Masinick. Reason: Geany, Emacs, Vim, and Nedit can all edit multiple files from a single command
                          • This reply was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by Brian Masinick.

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                            Just a quick interjection into the discussion of text editors in a GUI environment.

                            The information about e3ne was provided in the context of advice offered by Xecure to the OP, JJ1013.

                            If in the future you cannot access the gui interface, you will need a way to edit files…

                            In that case, a GUI text editor cannot be used, irrespective of whether it is hard coded or not. Nor can any alternative be opened in a GUI terminal environment. An editor that runs in a console will be needed.

                            Someone who usually works with a GUI text editor will be working with an unfamiliar app, in a potentially stressfull situation. In such circumstances having to work with unfamiliar keystrokes will not be welcomed. The benefit of e3 is its ability to employ keystrokes of various GUI text editors.

                            The widest range of users will find e3ne (nedit mode) the easiest and most familiar to use because it employs many keystrokes that are commonly used in the most popular GUI text editors.

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                              Thanks again for highlighting the important part of this thread: which editor can be used when no GUI is present?

                              Again, many choices, but I agree, e3ne is small in size, the e3 image can be used in various modes and therefore is usable for a large amount of the user base.

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                                App Select

                                Where do I find that? Sorry.

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                                BobC
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                                  App Select

                                  Where do I find that? Sorry.

                                  I can’t tell what exact version of antiX you are running, but if you are using an IceWM based desktop, try pressing Ctrl+Space, and it should pop up the App Select app. As far as I know it doesn’t show which package each application was installed under, but it does give a quick description of each program it shows.

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