Xorg – fail Xserver boot on second boot ? udev controls Xorg conf?

[Member kve]

Hi just getting back into linux systems:

used the USB live boot to wipe and just install to a drive on a laptop system

can boot the first time from the drive {didn’t so anything special jut used the vanilla installer and used whole drive as test}

so now upon a boot from the single HD on the system i can get the xserver {it boots like the live USB}

then reboot and no Xserver or a failed Xserver I am presented with a low res screen version and no input devices {it would appear}

so no mouse or Keyboard function :

NOW :

if i boot the live USB access the system drive root and edit /etc/inittab so that the default runlevel is 3

id:3:initdefault:

the system boots to the command prompt and i have mouse and keyboard access.
this all tells me it’s an Xorg problem – this system is an AMD A10 {old}

but i’m left scratching my head as to WHY it will boot the first time – so the drive will boot {and Xserver will work} the first time after an install from the live USB.

this leads me down the rabbit hole of the Xorg.conf file ..

the Xorg.conf file doesn’t exist any more ?? {apparently} so how am I meant to find out what is going wrong???
i can look at the /var/log/xorg.0.log and it says that the config is derived by udev?

so how do i see the udev {hopefully not the systemd virus version} log ?

I STRONGLY suspect that this is why there is a problem on the second boot –
if i am in the operational environment {on the first boot before it fails} and i run the command

df -h

there is a Udev filesystem – this is not present {of course on the live USB system}
I think when a user boots from the HD the first time the sys generates an Xorg configuration and sets that to the udev section
then when booting again the udev Xorg section is wrecking the Xserver.

I little frustrating it seems humanity has fallen a long way – there is no docs even on the {so called} ‘internet’ that ref to any of this?
I can’t seem to find much info at all

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TLDR:

Install from the USB to a Drive
Can boot from that drive once {first boot} {everything is fine}
will not boot the second time – Xorg xserver seems to be broken
Xorg config doesn’t exist?
how do i see the config of the Xserver if it’s being configured by Udev?

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anyone that has any hints or help thank you it might help someone else with Xorg issues.

my issue seems to be very similar to this issue:

https://superuser.com/questions/503617/xorg-input-devices-fail-without-udev

for me this is obviously related to how udev wants to have control & configuration of system devices.

with the systemd virus controlling udev then it has full live control of the whole system. if humanity wants that then sure – but i think that there should be other options also – so now i have to try to generate an Xorg.conf {i guess}

• This topic was modified 4 years, 10 months ago by kve. Reason: texterrors
• This topic was modified 4 years, 10 months ago by kve.

[Member stevesr0]

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Hi kve,

I can’t say why you can boot once after the install, but for failure to boot completely to the GUI desktop, I would look at a grub2 problem.

The following are some very basic things to try:
1. Do a fresh install and see if you have the same problem.
2. If yes, the after a fresh reinstall, (a) boot from the hard drive, (b) pipe/save the log files (dmesg, /var/log/Xorg.0.log, etc) /etc/fstab, and the output of the blkid command to text files for review and (c) update grub (assuming that is your bootloader) by running “update-grub”.
3. If the problem remains the same, you can post relevant lines from the log files, the blkid and the fstab files here and state what you found that looks wrong.

(BTW, there are discussions on the internet of how to launch Xorg without depending on udev.)

Hope this helps.

stevesr0

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